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I think we should include pictures or a link to a page showing how to identify most butterflies/moths by gender. I believe it is the same across the Order for pupa, and I know it's a lost cause for the larva, however, I think it would be helpful. I recently had a problem being able to find the information and think it would add to the wiki community. Unforunately, I don't know enough and my camera isn't fancy enough to take decent macro shots. - Kugamazog
I have some doubts about the validity of superfamily lists in the taxobox. For one thing it makes the box unreasonably long. Also it seems to suggest that "moth" and "butterfly" are well defined classifications, which other pages here contradict. Perhaps such information should be included in the article body, not the taxobox. (unsigned comment by Zeimusu ( talk · contribs)
I welcome any constructive criticism. Wikibofh 3 July 2005 00:27 (UTC)
It can be helpful to give non-taxonomic information in the taxobox, but it can be messy, for instance if we ever wanted to list suborders. I think it would be better to point out the two butterfly superfamilies in the article text. In the superfamily list, they can be distinguished with common names:
That might help draw attention to any important groups of moths, too. Josh
Actually I spent days figuring out the whole structure of the butterfly kingdom last winter and spent days doing the taxoboxes so that they were complete. Now that I look at it all my edits are gone practically. I find this whole thing insulting to say the least. No help from me. Williamb 09:04, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
I would like to announce the creation of WikiProject Lepidoptera so that we have a forum to discuss and hassle out these issues. Regards, AshLin 06:48, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
Can someone reorganize the following and add it back suitably into the article or perhaps as a new article on the classification... Most of the information is repeated in the lepidoptera box in the footer. Shyamal 10:37, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
Family | Otherwise included in |
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Acanthopteroctetidae Davis, 1978 | |
Acrolepiidae Heinemann, 1870 | Plutellidae or Yponomeutidae |
Acrolophidae | Tineidae |
Adelidae Bruand, 1851 | |
Agathiphagidae Kristensen, 1967 | |
Agonoxenidae Meyrick, 1926 | Elastichidae or Coleophoridae |
Aididae | Megalopygidae |
Alucitidae Leach, 1815 | |
Anomoeotidae | |
Anomosetidae | |
Anthelidae | |
Arctiidae Leach, 1815 | |
Arrhenophanidae | |
Axiidae Rebel, 1919 | Noctuidae |
Batrachedridae Heinemann & Wocke, 1876 | Coleophoridae or Mompidae or Cosmopterigidae |
Bedelliidae Meyrick, 1880 | Lyonetiidae |
Blastobasidae Meyrick, 1894 | Coleophoridae |
Bombycidae Latreille, 1802 | |
Brachodidae Heppner, 1979 | Glyphipterigidae |
Brahmaeidae Swinhoe, 1892 | |
Bucculatricidae Wallengren, 1881 | |
Callidulidae | |
Carposinidae Walsingham, 1897 | |
Carthaeidae | |
Castniidae | |
Cecidosidae | Incurvariidae |
Choreutidae Stainton, 1854 | Glyphipterigidae |
Coleophoridae Bruand, 1851 | |
Copromorphidae | |
Cosmopterigidae Heinemann & Wocke, 1876 | |
Cossidae Leach, 1815 | |
Crambidae Latreille, 1810 | Pyralidae |
Crinopterygidae Spuler, 1898 | |
Cyclotornidae | |
Dalceridae | |
Doidae Donahue & Brown, 1987 | Arctiidae |
Douglasiidae Heinemann & Wocke, 1876 | |
Drepanidae Boisduval, 1828 | |
Dudgeoneidae | |
Elachistidae Bruand, 1851 | |
Endromidae Boisduval, 1828 | |
Epermeniidae Spuler, 1910 | |
Epicopeiidae | |
Epipyropidae Dyar, 1903 | |
Eriocottidae Spuler, 1898 | Incurvariidae |
Eriocraniidae Tutt, 1899 | |
Ethmiidae Busck, 1909 | Elachistidae |
Eupterotidae | |
Galacticidae | Plutellidae |
Gelechiidae Stainton, 1854 | |
Geometridae Leach, 1815 | |
Glyphipterigidae Stainton, 1854 | |
Gracillariidae Stainton, 1854 | |
Hedylidae | Geometridae |
Heliodinidae Heinemann & Wocke, 1876 | |
Heliozelidae Heinemann & Wocke, 1877 | |
Hepialidae Stephens, 1829 | |
Hesperiidae Latreille, 1809 | |
Heterobathmiidae | Micropterigidae |
Heterogynidae Herrich-Schäffer, 1846 | |
Himantopteridae | |
Holcopogonidae Gozmany, 1967 | Autostichidae |
Hyblaeidae | |
Immidae Heppner, 1977 | Glyphipterigidae |
Incurvariidae Spuler, 1898 | |
Lacturidae | Yponomeutidae |
Lasiocampidae Harris, 1841 | |
Lecithoceridae Le Marchand, 1947 | Gelechiidae |
Lemoniidae Dyar, 1896 | |
Limacodidae Duponchel, 1845 | |
Lophocoronidae Common, 1973 | |
Lycaenidae Leach, 1815 | |
Lymantriidae Hampson, 1893 | |
Lyonetiidae Stainton, 1854 | |
Lypusidae Heinemann, 1870 | Tineidae or Psychidae or Yponomeutidae |
Megalopygidae | |
Metachandidae Meyrick, 1911 | Oecophoridae or Gelechiidae |
Micropterigidae Herrich-Schäffer, 1855 | |
Mimallonidae | |
Mirinidae | Bombycidae |
Mnesarchaeidae | |
Momphidae Herrich-Schäffer, 1857 | Coleophoridae |
Neopseustidae | |
Neotheoridae Kristensen, 1978. | |
Nepticulidae Stainton, 1854 | |
Noctuidae Latreille, 1809 | |
Nolidae Hampson, 1894 | Noctuidae |
Notodontidae Stephens, 1829 | |
Nymphalidae Rafinesque, 1815 | |
Oecophoridae Bruand, 1851 | |
Oenosandridae Miller, 1991 | Notodontidae (Thaumatopoeidae) |
Opostegidae Meyrick, 1893 | |
Palaeosetidae | |
Palaephatidae | Tineidae |
Pantheidae Smith, 1898 | Noctuidae |
Papilionidae Latreille, 1802 | |
Pieridae Duponchel, 1835 | |
Plutellidae Guenee, 1845 | Yponomeutidae |
Prodoxidae Riley, 1881 | |
Prototheoridae | |
Psychidae Boisduval, 1828 | |
Pterolonchidae Meyrick, 1918 | Coleophoridae |
Pterophoridae Zeller, 1841 | |
Pyralidae Latreille, 1802 | |
Riodinidae Grote, 1895 | Lycaenidae |
Roeslerstammiidae Bruand, 1850 | |
Saturniidae Boisduval, 1837 | |
Schreckensteiniidae Fletcher, 1929 | |
Scythrididae Rebel, 1901 | |
Sematuridae | |
Sesiidae Boisduval, 1828 | |
Simaethistidae | Pyralidae |
Somabrachyidae Hampson, 1920 | Megalopygidae |
Sphingidae Latreille, 1802 | |
Symmocidae Gozmany, 1957 | Autostichidae |
Thyrididae Herrich-Schäffer, 1846 | |
Tineidae Latreille, 1810 | |
Tineodidae Meyrick, 1885 | |
Tischeriidae Spuler, 1898 | |
Tortricidae Latreille, 1802 | |
Uraniidae | |
Urodidae Kyrki, 1984 | |
Whalleyanidae | Thyrididae |
Yponomeutidae Stephens, 1829 | |
Ypsolophidae Guenee, 1845 | Yponomeutidae |
Zygaenidae Latreille, 1809 |
The following groups have been ranked as families in the fairly recent past, and the family names are still likely to be met with in books and on the internet. This list shows where the supposed families are now classified.
Classification of European Lepidoptera | |||||
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Superfamily: | Family: | Subfamily: | |||
Acanthopteroctetoidea | Acanthopteroctetidae | ||||
Alucitoidea | Alucitidae | ||||
Axioidea | Axiidae | ||||
Bombycoidea | Brahmaeidae | ||||
Endromidae | |||||
Lemoniidae | |||||
Mirinidae | |||||
Saturniidae | Agliinae | ||||
Saturniinae | |||||
Sphingidae | Macroglossinae | ||||
Smerinthinae | |||||
Sphinginae | |||||
Choreutoidea | Choreutidae | Choreutinae | |||
Millierinae | |||||
Copromorphoidea | Carposinidae | ||||
Cossoidea | Cossidae | Cossinae | |||
Zeuzerinae | |||||
Drepanoidea | Drepanidae | Drepaninae | |||
Thyatirinae | |||||
Epermenioidea | Epermeniidae | Epermeniinae | |||
Ochromolopinae | |||||
Eriocranioidea | Eriocraniidae | ||||
Galacticoidea | Galacticidae | ||||
Gelechioidea | Agonoxenidae | ||||
Amphisbatidae | Amphisbatinae | ||||
Autostichidae | Autostichinae | ||||
Holcopogoninae | |||||
Symmocinae | |||||
Batrachedridae | |||||
Blastobasidae | |||||
Chimabachidae | |||||
Coleophoridae | |||||
Cosmopterigidae | Antequerinae | ||||
Chrysopeleiinae | |||||
Cosmopteriginae | |||||
Deoclonidae | |||||
Depressariidae | Cryptolechiinae | ||||
Depressariinae | |||||
Elachistidae | |||||
Ethmiidae | |||||
Gelechiidae | Dichomeridinae | ||||
Gelechiinae | |||||
Pexicopiinae | |||||
Lecithoceridae | Ceuthomadarinae | ||||
Lecithocerinae | |||||
Oditinae | |||||
Momphidae | |||||
Oecophoridae | Deuterogoniinae | ||||
Oecophorinae | |||||
Pterolonchidae | |||||
Schistonoeidae | |||||
Scythrididae | |||||
Stathmopodidae | |||||
Geometroidea | Geometridae | Alsophilinae | |||
Archiearinae | |||||
Desmobathrinae | |||||
Ennominae | |||||
Geometrinae | |||||
Larentiinae | |||||
Orthostixinae | |||||
Sterrhinae | |||||
Uraniidae | Epipleminae | ||||
Gracillarioidea | Bucculatricidae | ||||
Douglasiidae | |||||
Gracillariidae | Gracillariinae | ||||
Lithocolletinae | |||||
Phyllocnistinae | |||||
Roeslerstammiidae | |||||
Hepialoidea | Hepialidae | ||||
Hesperioidea | Hesperiidae | Hesperiinae | |||
Heteropterinae | |||||
Pyrginae | |||||
Incurvarioidea | Adelidae | Adelinae | |||
Nematopogoninae | |||||
Crinopterygidae | |||||
Heliozelidae | |||||
Incurvariidae | |||||
Prodoxidae | |||||
Lasiocampoidea | Lasiocampidae | Chondrosteginae | |||
Lasiocampinae | |||||
Malacosominae | |||||
Pinarinae | |||||
Poecilocampinae | |||||
Micropterigoidea | Micropterigidae | ||||
Nepticuloidea | Nepticulidae | Nepticulinae | |||
Opostegidae | Oposteginae | ||||
Opostegoidinae | |||||
Noctuoidea | Arctiidae | Arctiinae | |||
Lithosiinae | |||||
Syntominae | |||||
Lymantriidae | Arctorninae | ||||
Calliterinae | |||||
Lymantrinae | |||||
Nygmininae | |||||
Orgyinae | |||||
Noctuidae | Acontiinae | ||||
Acronictinae | |||||
Aedeiinae | |||||
Amphipyrinae | |||||
Bagisarinae | |||||
Bryophilinae | |||||
Calpinae | |||||
Catocalinae | |||||
Condicinae | |||||
Cuculliinae | |||||
Dilobinae | |||||
Eublemminae | |||||
Eustrotiinae | |||||
Euteliinae | |||||
Hadeninae | |||||
Heliothinae | |||||
Herminiinae | |||||
Hypeninae | |||||
Micronoctuinae | |||||
Noctuinae | |||||
Pantheinae | |||||
Plusiinae | |||||
Raphiinae | |||||
Rivulinae | |||||
Strepsimaninae | |||||
Tytinae | |||||
Nolidae | Chloephorinae | ||||
Eariadinae | |||||
Nolinae | |||||
Notodontidae | Notodontinae | ||||
Phalerinae | |||||
Ptilodoninae | |||||
Pygaerinae | |||||
Stauropinae | |||||
Thaumetopoeidae | Thaumetopoeinae | ||||
Papilionoidea | Lycaenidae | Lycaeninae | |||
Riodininae | |||||
Nymphalidae | Apaturinae | ||||
Charaxinae | |||||
Danainae | |||||
Heliconiinae | |||||
Libytheinae | |||||
Limenitidinae | |||||
Melitaeinae | |||||
Nymphalinae | |||||
Satyrinae | |||||
Papilionidae | Papilioninae | ||||
Parnassiinae | |||||
Pieridae | Coliadinae | ||||
Dismorphiinae | |||||
Pierinae | |||||
Pterophoroidea | Pterophoridae | Agdistinae | |||
Pterophorinae | |||||
Pyraloidea | Crambidae | Acentropinae | |||
Cathariinae | |||||
Crambinae | |||||
Cybalomiinae | |||||
Evergestinae | |||||
Glaphyriinae | |||||
Odontiinae | |||||
Pyraustinae | |||||
Schoenobiinae | |||||
Scopariinae | |||||
Spilomelinae | |||||
Pyralidae | Epipaschiinae | ||||
Galleriinae | |||||
Phycitinae | |||||
Pyralinae | |||||
Schreckensteinioidea | Schreckensteiniidae | ||||
Sesioidea | Brachodidae | ||||
Castniidae | |||||
Sesiidae | Sesiinae | ||||
Tinthiinae | |||||
Thyridoidea | Thyrididae | ||||
Tineoidea | Eriocottidae | ||||
Lypusidae | |||||
Psychidae | Epichnopteryginae | ||||
Naryciinae | |||||
Oiketicinae | |||||
Placodominae | |||||
Psychinae | |||||
Taleporiinae | |||||
Typhoniinae | |||||
Tineidae | Dryadaulinae | ||||
Euplocaminae | |||||
Hapsiferinae | |||||
Hieroxestinae | |||||
Meessiinae | |||||
Myrmecozelinae | |||||
Nemapogoninae | |||||
Perissomasticinae | |||||
Scardiinae | |||||
Setomorphinae | |||||
Stathmopolitinae | |||||
Teichobiinae | |||||
Tineinae | |||||
Tischerioidea | Tischeriidae | ||||
Tortricoidea | Tortricidae | Chlidanotinae | |||
Olethreutinae | |||||
Tortricinae | |||||
Urodoidea | Urodidae | ||||
Yponomeutoidea | Acrolepiidae | ||||
Bedelliidae | |||||
Glyphipterigidae | Glyphipteriginae | ||||
Orthoteliinae | |||||
Heliodinidae | |||||
Lyonetiidae | Cemiostominae | ||||
Lyonetiinae | |||||
Plutellidae | |||||
Yponomeutidae | Argyresthiinae | ||||
Praydinae | |||||
Scythropiinae | |||||
Yponomeutinae | |||||
Ypsolophidae | Ochsenheimeriinae | ||||
Ypsolophinae | |||||
Zygaenoidea | Epipyropidae | ||||
Heterogynidae | |||||
Limacodidae | |||||
Somabrachyidae | |||||
Zygaenidae | Chalcosiinae | ||||
Procridinae | |||||
Zygaeninae |
i replaced the old picture with an FA-quality moth. enjoy. -- The Lizard Wizard 06:35, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
The article lists the number of lepidoptera species as 180,000. The website [1] claims to have 260,000 accepted names. TeunSpaans 22:37, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
Image:Grand paon de nuit.jpg If somebody feels like inserting it into the article... Ajor 12:05, 13 March 2007 (UTC) Image:Grand paon de nuit 2.jpg This one is even better... Ajor 12:13, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
This article, despite being the premier article of WikiProject Lepidoptera, has not developed over time. It had a taxobox but that vanished; I have placed another just today. It had some taxonomic lists, but they are gone too. The sections also don't seem to be what the user would like to know from this wiki. We need major rework to bring it to at least Good Article status.
I have archived the previous talk so that we can start afresh. I propose that we work out step by step and move forward to improve it.
Step one, what information does the user expect to read here? Or what information is logically to be found here?
Can we have suggestions in the form of a heirarchy or logical sequence of section headings? Once we get a reasonable model, we can go ahead from there.
Regards, AshLin 19:27, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
Should this description stay in list format of be rewritten in prose? If it's rewritten in prose, I think it should be a description of the adult insect, and the information about larvae and pupae should go to "Life cycle". Thoughts? A little insignificant Giving thanks to all that is me 15:10, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
Any regards about the structure of this article? I wasn't sure, so I based it a little on Ant. Any opinions? Bugboy52.4 ¦ =-= 17:09, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
We need to get this article sorted out. There's many sections that are just lists or devoid of info, including an empty "Evolution" section and a lot of information relating to evolution in the "Phylogeny" sections.
I don't know about other people, but I know from experience that I work better using lists of specific tasks, and that's why I find it easier to address GA review concerns. But some basic things need to be fixed or cleaned up in the article- we can't ask the reviewer to write it for us. So could we set up a task system or something? For example: maybe we could assign people to different sections along with an overview of what needs to be done or improved. Thoughts? A little insignificant Giving thanks to all that is me 13:45, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
Maybe a Little Insignificant can work with the Evolution section, and I'll do the rest. Bugboy52.4 ¦ =-= 20:09, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
Almost there, guys! The article is almost in a good and stable state. A couple sections left before we can slack off for the holidays:
Methinks we can work on this together, and if we can get this out of the way the sooner we can relax without having to take care of it after New Year's and all that. So what say you? ALI nom nom 01:03, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
References are important in order to bring up to Good Article status. With that in mind, there are a lot of refs that are not using cite templates, which I can convert, but some don't include page number and Chapter. Bugboy52.4 ¦ =-= 16:25, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
I noticed we're constantly using "lepidopteran" for plural forms of lepidoptera, but the lead states "lepidopterans". Which one should it be? Zoo Fari 07:29, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
The thorax section mentions some info on antennae. Shouldn't that be merged into the head section? Zoo Fari 19:33, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
We've made great progress! It looks like things are starting to get tidy. -- Zoo Fari 23:58, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
I should be the one to blame... I took a little mini-brake and wil, be bake to work. I see the Polymorphism section has been worked on, but I'm mostly concerned about it's state. I was looking at the Russian article, and I liked the way it was organized.. any thoughts on certain sections that should be added or thing in particular I should work on before I get started sometime this weekened? Bugboy52.4 ¦ =-= 01:51, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
There is strong sexual dimorphism in a lot (or all?) species of Bagworm moth. I made some species articles recently. Females are wingless and resemble larvae, while males look like typical moths (i.e. have wings). Might be usefull to add? Ruigeroeland ( talk) 15:39, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
Sorry for my extraordinarily long absence... but has anything been acomplished? I'll be getting back to it right now. Bugboy52.4 ¦ =-= 16:08, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
Nothing in this article about the associations between lepidopterans and plants? No feeding behaviour except in the section on humans? How am I supposed to do my homework!? :-P But seriously, a section collecting that sort of information would be helpful. -- Danger ( talk) 16:05, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
This article has been WikiProject Insects' current collaboration since December 2, 2009. I think it's probably time to move forward. I have looked over the article, and I can't see too many pressing issues. The references could do with tidying up (some works are repeated, albeit for different chapter; some have important details missing), and the prose could be tightened, but overall, it's not too far off the required standard. One substantive comment I have to make is that it seems strange to include the Viceroy-Monarch example under Batesian mimicry, only to admit that it's actually Müllerian mimicry. It would be better to find an unambiguous example of Batesian mimicry.
The place where most effort is needed, I think, is the ecology. There is a brief mention under "Distribution and diversity" of a general association with flowering plants, but I'm sure there must be much more that could be written. My advice is to expand on that, and then nominate the article at WP:GAN; the helpful reviewers there will let you know if anything else is amiss. -- Stemonitis ( talk) 10:21, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
I started discussion on Talk:Lepidopterist Scientific29 ( talk) 18:48, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
The simple stuff.
The Complicated stuff.
Bugboy52.4 ¦ =-= 14:38, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
NOTE to self: The internal diagram needs dorsal tubules to be changed to heart chambers. Also need to add sources
Insted of "le-pee-DOP-tə-rə", wouldn't the correct spelling be "le-pi-DOP-tə-rə"? Bugboy52.4 ¦ =-= 12:45, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
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The taxobox has an extensive caption, but the illustration to which it refers is missing. Jacob ( talk) 15:07, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
No mention in the article about the wing structure, the wing veination or wing patterns. These are useful points that enable identification of the many Lepidoptera species. Note that wing veination may take a numbering system or is based on the Comstock-Needham system (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insect_wing) - four main veins (in Lepidoptera) arise from the wing base - Sc (subcostal vein), R (radial vein), M (medial vein) & Cu (cubital vein). Wing pattern should focus on mapping out the names given to the edges, corners and regions of the wing, as well as pattern types (stigmata, fascia, streaks). HKmoths ( talk) 03:36, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
Nice article, it helps, but why such big paragraphs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.102.84.111 ( talk) 16:18, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
I started on: /info/en/?search=Lycaenidae and was trying to determine the taxonomy of butterflies for a research paper I’m editing. I just wanted to know how butterflies are classified. I also checked /info/en/?search=Butterfly and /info/en/?search=Glossata in my attempt to find the suborder Rhopalocera. But the butterfly page did not match the Lepidoptera page /info/en/?search=Lepidoptera which listed four suborders (including Glossata), none of which is Rhopalocera. I’ll leave this to an entomologist to figure out, being an ecologist and cyperologist myself. Someone needs to check out various butterfly pages and figure out who is what (suborders pages need to match other wikipages. Sedgehead ( talk) 20:31, 17 October 2013 (UTC)Sedgehead
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I have added an example of a butterfly causing crop damage. Thanks!
Ichooxu ( talk) 01:52, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
I have deleted external links that refer to non-english websites. Why is there such little talk on such a major article? bpage ( talk) 01:21, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
I am very glad that an interest is being shown in this article. At first glance, it seemed to me that no one had continued to improve it. The edit that I did to the caption on a photo of roosting monarch butterflies is very specific to the western population of monarch butterflies but not to the population of eastern monarch butterflies. Each population overwinters in different places. It is not accurate to assume that the photo represents the typical locale where monarchs overwinter. Most monarchs overwinter in Mexico. The photo of the roost in CA is representative of western monarch overwintering behavior, but not representative of all monarchs overwintering. My edit was to clarify. I make a lot of typos, but this wasn't one of them. PLEASE, please, feel free to continue to review and edit this article because I think that it needs it. I also invite you to review and edit any of the other insect related articles that I work on. There seems to be such little activity in the lepidoptera portal. Best Regards to You. bpage ( talk) 22:31, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
This article is too big and not specific. It may be well written and has some excellent and valuable contributions, but it is covering several topics, not just the order Lepidoptera. Unfortunately it should be a fail, and if it is a pass, then the endorsement may prevent improvement.
I was looking for an article on caterpillar anatomy and morphology and couldn't find one, so was in the progress of starting one. This title should be about Lepidoptera order (with a taxobox) and list the suborders and families. It is not consistent with other order articles.
The anatomy and morphology sections should be split off into a separate article. Ecology and relationship to people is yet another topic. There should be no prizes for having the biggest article! SurreyJohn (Talk) 09:18, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
Hi, I'm new here. I was looking at the diagram in the Phylogeny section, and I'm not sure it is right. It looks to me like the coloured band representing the Angiosperm Radiation is in the wrong place. The comment beneath the diagram says this occurred between 130 and 95 Mya, but that's not what the diagram shows. I have also checked the Labandeira article and the Encyclopedia of Insects (both quoted as sources of the diagram) and they are different from this diagram and show this band with the correct time period. Can you double-check this yourself and see what you think? Regards Piano beat ( talk) 21:28, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
I don't know where to put this comment so I'll put it here, though I think it's more appropriate for the individual plant pages and not this page as it's not specifically about this page. I've found a lot of pages on Wikipedia about plants with a 1-liner comment about Lepidopteras eating the plant that the Wikipedia page describes. This is very interesting and all, but why is it so important that we all know what Leipdopteras eat? Is it more important that we know that these pre-pupal butterflies eat so many different plants and not, say, deer, rabbits, slugs, or even humans eat these plants too? Just wondering why these animals were picked out over other animals that eat the plant that the Wikipedia page describes, over all animals that could prey on the plants. Granted I think a good effort is placed on fungi/bacterium that eat these plants ("Plant Diseases").
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This article is nearly an A-class article, with a good list of references, and practically everything it needs. What strikes me though is that if you remove the "evolution" section, there is very little left! Why not have a bit more about ecological role, life cycle, anatomy, etc.? I know that most of this already exists on articles such as " butterfly", " moth" and " caterpillar", but there should still be a section that summarizes this kind of info with a link to the main article or the appropriate section in another article. Not much is needed to reach A-level!! Iron C hris | (talk) 00:36, 18 November 2006 (UTC) |
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