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The article was recently changed to say that Stinson was not in fact an architect, but worked as a home designer. This appears to be at odds with the cited New York Times source with the headline "PIONEER AVIATRIX NOW IS ARCHITECT". I was unable to check the full text of source in question because it's behind a paywall; I would be grateful if someone with a subscription to NYT could look at this source and tell us exactly what it says. Unless we have reliable sourcing to substantiate the claim that Stinson was a home designer and not an architect, the article text should be changed back to the way it originally was. —
Richwales(no relation to Jimbo) 04:34, 3 February 2020 (UTC)reply
I have posted a request at the Resource Request noticeboard (
WP:RX), asking for help clarifying what this NYT story says. —
Richwales(no relation to Jimbo) 21:00, 4 February 2020 (UTC)reply
The headline in The New York Times is "PIONEER AVIATRIX NOW IS ARCHITECT", but it is followed by three sub-heads in smaller type:
"Former Katherine Stinson, Stunt Flier Two Decades Ago, Wins Fame as Home Builder."
"WIFE OF SANTA FE JUDGE"
"Mrs. M. A. Otero Jr., Whose Feats Awed Nation, Gets Prizes for Houses She Designs."
The body of their article describes her as "designing prize-winning homes in New Mexico", "is a leading architect of the Southwest, building homes she 'likes so much' that she 'wants to live in them' herself", "contractor and architect", and "That year [1927] their home, which Mrs. Otero had designed was judged the prize-winner in a contest embracing typical Santa Fe architecture. She also won a prize in 1927 for the best plans of a house costing less than $6,000."
So it's fair for Wikipedia to describe her as an architect and a home designer. This source doesn't say whether she had educational qualifications or a license as an architect, but since the NYT called her an architect in the headline and the text, it's safe for us to do so. To the extent that she's notable as an architect (12 of the newspaper's 13 paragraphs touch on flying), she was notable for designing homes rather than commercial buildings. --
Worldbruce (
talk) 00:18, 5 February 2020 (UTC)reply
Page make-over
I am going through Stinson's page and trying to set everything in chronological order, break it down into more sections, and get more and better citations. If I move some previous work to a new section or delete some repetitive information, my apologies...no offense is meant.
KlausVonVilver (
talk) 05:51, 23 January 2021 (UTC)reply