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I will also compare to older versions to see if the uncited content replaced previously cited content.–
CaroleHenson (
talk) 20:03, 28 September 2023 (UTC)reply
I didn't have any luck. This
version has larger and also more blocks of uncited content, so not a good source. I did some spot-checking in between I wasn't finding citations for this content. I noticed that uncited content was improved over time too. It will be easier to find sources by using the nine {{
citation needed}} tags from
this version today. I will work on that over the coming week.–
CaroleHenson (
talk) 21:44, 28 September 2023 (UTC)reply
Donehere, that also includes some edits by others. Any thoughts or changes regarding the additions?–
CaroleHenson (
talk) 20:37, 6 October 2023 (UTC)reply
Quality and cohesion
As I have been going along I have thought that it would be good to have a cohesive flow of information in logical groupings (sections). I have added some subsections, just to help me keep track of the content, but there may be a better way to group the info.
As an FYI, I know that I need to do a good read-edit review of the article to catch grammar, etc. issues. (I find it's best to do this when all the content is added, since that could change the sentences.)
The article could benefit from a review of the content to sources. I have found a couple of cases where the content at the cited sources citations did not cover the cited content. I hope that makes sense.
Are there any thoughts or concerns from anyone else to ensure the end product is good?–
CaroleHenson (
talk) 07:29, 6 October 2023 (UTC)reply
In progress: I am working on review and editing content by sections - and will double-check my addition of subsections and sections generally as I go. I am finding that I am doing some content to source review as I edit.
Perhaps the article can be nominated for a good article status after this is done.–
CaroleHenson (
talk) 18:04, 7 October 2023 (UTC)reply
If you are wondering about the lengthy questions and updates here, I have memory problems and it helps keep me on track. And, of course, I do it to communicate with readers/editors if I am getting off-track in some way.–
CaroleHenson (
talk) 18:06, 7 October 2023 (UTC)reply
You make a lot of small edits, and it's hard for me to keep up with them since I only check my watchlist every few days recently, but everything I've checked so far seems reasonable. I'll probably do a read-through to look for anything weird once you're done. Thank you for taking the time to improve this article top to bottom.
Juan el Demografo (
talk) 13:55, 8 October 2023 (UTC)reply
Juan el Demografo, Sorry about the small edits. I don't have the capacity for dealing with a lot of information at once like I used to. And edit conflicts really confuse me. I'll be mindful of your comments, though, and see where I can improve.
Your run-through after I get done would be wonderful!–
CaroleHenson (
talk) 20:50, 8 October 2023 (UTC)reply
Juan el Demografo I have finished going through the introduction through the death and burial section. The diff of my edits are
here. It's a bit confusing because of all the citation edits, but perhaps it will be helpful.–
CaroleHenson (
talk) 04:38, 12 October 2023 (UTC)reply
Victor Hugo's letter
London News
The claim that Hugo's letter was "first published" in the London News is not supported by the cited source (David S. Reynolds)
which states only that it was "sent ... to the London News". I am dubious that there existed a publication called London News in 1859. There were
We have received from Guernsey, with a request that it should appear it our columns, the following eloquent appeal from the illustrious poet of France...
one in New York by Irwin P. Beadle is to the editor of
"the London Star"; with a reply from
Ann S. Stephens adverting to "your letter to the London Star".
If the American Anti-Slavery Society were sloppy with details they considered unimportant that might mislead later sources like Reynolds.
jnestorius(
talk) 01:15, 18 October 2023 (UTC)reply
Dates
Hugo's letter was dated 2 December. He says:
John Brown, condemned to die, was to have been hanged on the 2d of December—this very day. But news has just reached us. A respite has been granted to him. It is not until the 16th that he is to die.
This 1861 reprint says "But it was too late; the news of the reprieve was false". Might Hugo have invented the fake news (fake fake news?) to give more pathos to his letter?
This source says French newspapers printed the letter on 9 December "backdated for effect". François-Victor's covering letter to the Morning Advertiser was dated the 5th. Perhaps the original was on the 2nd, the English translation on the 5th. Or perhaps both were on the 5th. Would it take longer for post to get from Guernsey to London or Paris? Hugo was persona non grata in France so there might have been delays from mail inspectors or press censors.
Should W.E.B Du Bois be listed under contemporaries
Du Bois was born over 8 years after John borwn's death, they did not live alongside each other.Should he be roved form the contemporaries section
Roma enjoyer (
talk) 14:56, 19 January 2024 (UTC)reply
Exponent versus proponent?
I found this line confusing until someone pointed out to me that there was a definition of exponent that I wasn't aware of.
"Brown was the leading exponent of violence in the American abolitionist movement
But I still feel like proponent would be better after reading about it
here.
Anybody else think so? Is there some reason why exponent is really better that I'm not aware of?
Mmarchin (
talk) 20:06, 1 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Hanged not hung
"The military, prepared for an attack, lined the square where Brown was to be hung, with "the greatest array of disciplined forces ever seen in Virginia", according to Major Preston.[207]"
The past tense of hang in almost all situations is hung. You hung a picture on the wall, or you hung out at the mall. Only use hanged when referring to someone being sentenced to death via hanging. Some people bristle when they hear hanged or hung used incorrectly.