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This article is over 300,000 bytes. The splitting guidelines suggest to split an article when it reaches or surpasses 100,000 bytes. Therefore, I think it is a good idea to split it at this time. If you oppose this, please add a comment with your rationale. Thanks, DesertPipeline ( talk) 07:36, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
It has been suggested that this article be split into articles titled Demographics of immigration to the United States, Effects of immigration to the United States, Legal issues of immigration to the United States, Public opinion of immigration to the United States and United States immigration policy.
As anybody who's ever tried it knows, splitting an article is not as simple as it sounds. X-References may fail, so notes have to be copied and pasted. Plus there need to be new links associating the new articles. All the links to the present article—there are hundreds—need to be revised multiple times. To which new articles would the existing illustrations be moved? What new illustrations are available for the new articles? There is also the question of whether everything in the current article would properly fit into one of the new articles, and what to do if some of it doesn't. And there is also the not insignificant question of who would do what, and who would coordinate things. In my view, there has to be one person at least keeping track of all the parts of each revision.
Perhaps someone could explain to me what section(s) of the present article would properly be turned into an article on "United Ststes Immigration Policy", as suggested above. The history?
On looking at the existing article, it says absolutely nothing, and says that it is saying nothing, about the forced immigration of enslaved Africans until 1808, and clandestinely afterwards. They were not being counted as immigrants at the time, but in every sense I can think of, they were still immigrants. They came from foreign countries to the United States, where almost all of them remained. They were immigrants. And their numbers were substantial. They belong in the statistics. deisenbe ( talk) 05:13, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
This discussion has been dormant for several months, so I've begun the process of splitting the article. Thebiguglyalien ( talk) 23:43, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Israeli immigration to South Florida and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 January 27 § Israeli immigration to South Florida until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Fram ( talk) 09:08, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
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There number and rank of immigrants are not right Jaulesmckinsky ( talk) 16:13, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
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17:46, 27 January 2023 (UTC)Why do editors keep citing the ACLS results as the final word on the 1790 population? Scholars have determined ACLS data inaccurate and unreliable for many decades now [1]. There are other sources that have revised these estimates. Jonathan f1 ( talk) 08:31, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
There is repeating text under the heading "Exclusion Era" Calliope777 ( talk) 19:11, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
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Contemporary immigration numbers of lawful permanent residents should be updated with data from 2021 and 2022. 2021 data is here https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/2023-02/2022_0405_plcy_lawful_permanent_residents_fy2021v2.pdf 2022 data is here https://www.dhs.gov/immigration-statistics/special-reports/legal-immigration (there's a xlsx file that contains statistics for all 4 quarters of 2022. Abramprice87 ( talk) 23:06, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
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Change table titled "Top 15 Countries of Origin of Permanent Residents, 2015–2021:" to include 2022 data released on 03/08/2023. That data can be found here: https://www.dhs.gov/immigration-statistics/special-reports/legal-immigration/year-end Abramprice87 ( talk) 17:06, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
Not done for now: Abramprice87, may I suggest you copy the existing table over to your own userspace and update it yourself? Then when you're finished, reopen the edit request and point whoever answers to the updated table. Thanks, Xan747 ( talk) 00:24, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
Top 15 Countries of Origin of Permanent Residents, 2015–2022: [1] | ||||||||
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Country | 2015 | 2016 | 2017 | 2018 | 2019 | 2020 | 2021 | 2022 |
Mexico | 158,619 | 174,534 | 170,581 | 161,858 | 156,052 | 100,325 | 107,230 | 138,723 |
India | 64,116 | 64,687 | 60,394 | 59,821 | 54,495 | 46,363 | 93,450 | 125,130 |
China | 74,558 | 81,772 | 71,565 | 65,214 | 62,248 | 41,483 | 49,847 | 68,100 |
Dominican Republic | 50,610 | 61,161 | 58,520 | 57,413 | 49,911 | 30,005 | 24,553 | 39,472 |
Philippines | 56,478 | 53,287 | 49,147 | 47,258 | 45,920 | 25,491 | 27,511 | 36,313 |
Cuba | 54,396 | 66,516 | 65,028 | 76,486 | 41,641 | 16,367 | 23,077 | 31,347 |
El Salvador | 19,487 | 23,449 | 25,109 | 28,326 | 27,656 | 17,907 | 18,668 | 30,478 |
Vietnam | 30,832 | 41,451 | 38,231 | 33,834 | 39,712 | 29,995 | 16,312 | 23,804 |
Brazil | 11,424 | 13,812 | 14,989 | 15,394 | 19,825 | 16,746 | 18,351 | 23,596 |
Colombia | 17,316 | 18,610 | 17,956 | 17,545 | 19,841 | 11,989 | 15,293 | 21,433 |
Venezuela | 9,144 | 10,772 | 11,809 | 11,762 | 15,720 | 12,136 | 14,412 | 19,956 |
Canada | 19,309 | 19,349 | 18,469 | 14,337 | 14,723 | 11,297 | 12,053 | 19,313 |
Honduras | 9,071 | 12,996 | 12,792 | 13,492 | 15,901 | 7,843 | 9,425 | 16,936 |
Guatemala | 11,466 | 12,547 | 11,147 | 15,172 | 13,111 | 7,369 | 8,199 | 16,814 |
Jamaica | 17,642 | 23,350 | 21,905 | 20,347 | 21,689 | 12,826 | 13,357 | 16,300 |
South Korea | 17,138 | 21,801 | 19,194 | 17,676 | 18,479 | 16,244 | 12,351 | 16,058 |
Total | 1,051,031 | 1,183,505 | 1,127,167 | 1,096,611 | 1,031,765 | 707,362 | 740,002 | 1,018,004 |
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Unless anyone has anything to say or anyone to introduce into the discussion, I will be bold and remove the template within 2 weeks. Thank you. Cleter ( talk) 01:18, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
Flags are excessively overused in this article. A lot of the immigrants left their original countries because they want to disassociate themselves with the regimes associated with those flags in the first place, and using those flags to represent them is not only inappropriate, but can be offensive. Furthermore, a lot of those flags are anachronistic, representing regimes or countries that didn't exist at the time the immigrants left. DHN ( talk) 04:49, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
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