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As per Wikipedia:Disambiguation when there is obviously a use for the same term that is much more frequently used than another use, then that article should be the one used for the term without disambiguation. For the sake of disambiguation the other link will be listed at the top of the primary use of the term. After 3 days, I will consider making the switch which would "undisambiguate" Humboldt Bay (United States) to Humboldt Bay, leaving the rare use of this location, Yos Sudarso Bay with a reference at the top of the Humboldt Bay United States listing. This article has no where near the name recognition of Humboldt Bay and the use of Humboldt Bay for that article is really a historical reference and an obscure one at that. Norcalal 05:45, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
For the edit history of the Humboldt Bay article previous to this correction (removal of unnecessary disambiguation) on September 29, 2008, please refer to the Revision history section of the now redirected Humboldt Bay (United States) article page. Norcalal 06:29, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
Humboldt Bay has NEVER been closed off from the Pacific Ocean. Explorers and settlers used ships to enter the bay in 18o6, 1848 and since. Dredging was to maintain depth of entry and never to open or re-open a closed system. Please provide proof of Humboldt needing dredging before you declare it a lagoon. There is no such proof. Norcalal 04:23, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
From an email from the experts at the Humboldt Bay Harbor, Recreation, and Conservation District: "Oceanographically, Humboldt Bay currently is an "embayment" that freely exchanges water with the nearshore Pacific. The salinity values of the bay's water vary from close to 35 per mil in most places most of the time to somewhat fresher in Arcata Bay and South Bay in the winter to somewhat hypersaline in Arcata Bay in the late summer (see the Shapiro Report).
That said, in a larger geomorphological context, there's no functional difference between Humboldt Bay and Big Lagoon or Lake Earl. In a purely geomorphological sense, Humboldt Bay is a "lagoon," created by longshore currents that pile up sand in a "bay-mouth bar" between protruding headlands; functionally the headlands in this case are Table Bluff (which interrupts the bar, otherwise it would be False Cape to the south) and the point north of Little River.
This is essentially the summer-season state for all of the "embayments" and "estuaries" along the Northern California coast (I rather suspect it's the state of all rivers along the entire coast in our Mediterranean climate -- bears some thought). All of the smaller river mouths are subject to closure every year (especially in drought conditions), and even larger river mouths sometimes close (the Eel River became a "lagoon" for a month or so one summer in the late 1980s, and the Russian River mouth is maintained open the same way Lake Earl is, by tractor).
The bay doesn't function in a purely geomorphological sense, of course, because the jetties at the entrance and the maintenance dredging prevent the bar from closing. However, under pre-settlement conditions it's likely that the bar west of Humboldt Bay was often closed for months in many years. Some people think that's why it took so long for the bay to be "discovered" by Europeans."
So we are all correct depending on how and when you apply the term. Norcalal 00:42, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
The Origin and Etymology of Current Geographical Names by Gudde, Edwin G. & Bright, William (2004) indicates Arcata is the Yurok phrase for "where there is a lagoon" (referring to Humboldt Bay). The Yurok applied the same name to Big Lagoon. Thewellman ( talk) 17:26, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
1. Native American word meaning "around the BAY." The city's own website shows the following definition: a Native American word: ar-ka-ta meaning something like "a place to land" and /or "o-ket-oh" meaning "where there is flat water". We need to include this history...
I am puzzled by your reference to the present tense for this categorical listing. It seems of comparatively little relevance for a subject with life measured in geologic time. Lagoons go through varying stages of salinity and tidal fluctuation with seasonal or longer-term climate change or as sea levels change or local tectonic plate movement occurs. Many, including Humboldt Bay, have been recently altered by man. I suggest encyclopedic coverage of the subject of lagoons would benefit from a listing of examples in differing stages of historical variation. Thewellman ( talk) 22:50, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
The description on page 6 of the United States Army Corps of Engineers publication Humboldt Bay Entrance Channel seems fairly unambiguous: "Humboldt Bay is a multibasin, bar-built, coastal lagoon located approximately 260 miles north of San Francisco, CA, and 220 miles south of Coos Bay, OR." I have added a link from the article. Thewellman ( talk) 23:49, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
I see that this claim is backed up by a decent reference, but my first thought was, "What about Monterey Bay? Santa Monica Bay? San Pablo Bay is several times larger, but perhaps considered part of the "greater" San Francisco Bay? What is meant by "second largest bay" is apparently about something other than water bodies named "Bay". Another page at the site referenced, Arcata Fisheries Technical Report Number AFWO- F-07-04, says "Humboldt Bay is the second largest estuary in California". That sounds better to my ears. It omits Monterey Bay and other "marine bays". Another page at that site, Humboldt Bay Management Plan, Appendix A, puts it, "Generally, Humboldt Bay is the second-largest estuarine water body on the California Coast (after the San Francisco Bay-Delta)". This statement not only specifies "estuarine" but also says the largest is "San Francisco Bay-Delta", which would include such things as San Pablo Bay. Perhaps it would be better to say "estuary" instead of "bay" so people like me wonder about Monterey Bay, Santa Monica Bay, Morro Bay, and many other obviously larger bays of California. The reference cite could go to one of the pages I just quoted. This is just a suggestion. I read the claim and found it hard to believe, and quickly disproved it by looking at a map and noting the various "bays" of California. Then I checked the reference and ended up confused. Pfly ( talk) 08:44, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
PS, something is wrong with the infobox's "water volume" field. It says the bay's water volume is "17,000 acres". But acre is an area measurement, not volume. "Acre-feet" would be volume, or cubic feet, miles, etc. Pfly ( talk) 08:44, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
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