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I've removed: Columbia lies in the Heart of Little Dixie Region of Missouri. It is a term not used by the inhabitants of the region, and it is also inconsistent with the other Missouri city articles that don't state what region they are in. If anything it is a historical note, as it has little impact on how one locates the city today, for Columbians would use the term Mid-Missouri. As the opening is already quite full I think its best for the reasons above to remove it. Grey Wanderer | Talk 05:36, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
Over time the opening paragraph had picked up a lot of random information and become disorganized, I've moved some stuff around and added quite a few sources. I also created a section for politics because there was a mass of info on it that had just grown over time. I hope it works for everyone. Grey Wanderer 10:16, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
To hell with the opening paragraph, I cleaned up the whole page, feel free to mess around with my occasionally poor syntax. Grey Wanderer 13:16, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone want to write anything concerning Columbia's expansion? I have lived here for three years and love it. It makes me somewhat sad though when I see trees being cut down and open land being torn up for ugly cookie-cutter houses. I am not anti-development (I'm all for the South of town and peripheral developments), but part of the charm of central columbia is its abundance of open land and forest land. I come from a large city with a singular lack of trees. I would hate to see Columbia go the same way. Perhaps if the city government was as progressive as it was made out, more land would be protected from development. An example of all this is the formerly Green, Meadows area.
I just wanted to point out that the downtown area is not known as "The District", or at least it wasn't two years ago when I left. It was right around that time that somebody, probably in the chamber of commerce or something, got the idea that downtown needed to be called the district and I can remember joking around with a friend about how stupid that was. Downtown is simply downtown for any local. And it seems to me that a few sentences of this article read like they were written by maybe that same person in the Chamber of Commerce. Also, I would say that the majority of students are not local. Most come from St. Louis, K.C., the Lake area, or other parts of the state. During the summer months, the effects of the students' absence is easily felt in the traffic density around town. DustinG 14:16, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
It looks like The District" initiative is finally working, people are starting to refer to downtown that way, and business now advertise by saying located in the district Grey Wanderer 20:16, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, businesses like Shakespeare's that had a big deal to do with the 'name change' advertise such. Fact is, no one besides a few select business owners calls it 'the district' with a straight face. I'll find some article about the majority of downtowner's disdain for it. Rubyredstarfruit 05:53, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
I live in Columbia, have done for 3 years. I hate the "District" title, but it seems slowly to be sticking. I hear it a lot on the radio and TV at any rate. Must admit I have not heard many people refer to downtown as the District in conversation.
Anyone have a source for the figure of 120,000 seasonal population? I believe students are included in the census numbers. Adam 08:12, 24 July 2005 (UTC)
Polpo 20:05, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
Yeah we aren't using the 120k figure though it may be true, seeing as how most college students don't seem to get a census form from my experience. Howard county, however is in the Columbia MSA, Its on the census website. Grey Wanderer | Talk 00:55, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
To add more confusion to the issue, I was a student living in the dorms during the 2000 census, and we did have a census worker come by. She made it clear that we should fill the forms out as living in Columbia, since we were going to school there (i.e., living there at the time). She also told us to make sure our parents didn't claim us on their forms, so as not to double count. For what it's worth . . .
The population generally supports progressive causes, examples of this being the recent decriminilization of marijuana and the extensive city recycling programs. This is in the article, but I never heard anything about this... Wouldn't something this major be well known? I just want to make sure I'm not missing anything before I take it down, 'cause it looks like a prank to me. Is it? 147.174.150.24 14:40, 10 April 2006 (UTC)Sean
What are thoughts about removing the blurb on "decriminalization of cannabis"? I think there are better "progressive causes" to document than getting stoned.
Meh...I think its certainly notable even if its not flattering. Grey Wanderer | Talk 05:12, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
uhm, if anyone thinks we need more pictures of anything in Columbia (especially downtown, i do so love downtown), I can probably take some -- Eel 22:05, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
Is anyone interested in participating in a Wikiproject concerning Columbia? I believe we still have a great deal of information that we can expand upon, and getting good media is better with lots of people. Please reply if you are interested. Theprosperonight 14:14, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
We've got a progressive psychedelic heavy metal scene? I was not aware of this. In other words, I disagree. Even if I had no idea what Columbia was, I'd doubt that just because it's so specific. Then again, I guess I haven't listened to a LOT of those bands, so perhaps I'm not the most qualified to judge. Opinions? -- Eel 01:13, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
In the "Popular Music Scene" article I think the "Other notable acts are:" part should either get it's own wikipedia article or have it's own section. I think the list is too long to be in the middle of the paragraph like that.
I don't think this list accurately reflects the Columbia scene anymore. I can think of quite a few local bands that are just as notable as most of those on the list, but they aren't listed: Fare Thee Well (just won Clash of the Titans), Caulfield and the Magic (has a release on Hometone records), Umbros (several self-released albums), Barn Owl (self-released EP, plays a lot), Brunette, The Pale Family, The Stingrays (Hometone), John Henry & The Engine (Hometone), The Goldbugs (Hometone)... Plus Dadbot and Ellie Come Home are defunct now as far as I know, and I thought Warhammer48k moved to Chicago? 128.206.141.23 16:23, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
Famous people need to be individuals who are known outside the local area. I've removed several people who would be unknown outside Columbia (e.g., Hindman, Gervino) and people who should logically appear on the Mizzou page (e.g., the coaches). 12.216.240.130 14:08, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
Oh, I reinserted Hindman, and removed people like Brand Pitt, who only went to college in Columbia. These people are all listed on the MU alumni page. Grey Wanderer | Talk 08:28, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
I noticed many citys have an Economy section which discusses the major businesses in the town and may include a list of major employers. The Columbia page mentions some employers here and there, but there is no section for this. Anyone think such a section would be worthwhile? HornColumbia 05:26, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
a) in medicine b) in insurance c) in education d) a lawyer
The University of Missouri is probably the major employer with its campus and hospitals (it owns University Hospital, Ellis Fischel, Columbia Regional Hospital, Rusk Rehab Center). Then there is State Farm and Shelter Insurance also among the city's big employers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.167.246.147 ( talk • contribs)
Should these be mentioned: http://blogs.columbiatribune.com/gameover/ and http://www.shortattentiongamer.com/? They are both based in Columbia and I think they both have a lot of fans. I thought video game things like this might be a growing thing in Columbia. Me5000 05:58, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
I'd say go for slackers its a decent sized midwest franchise that was founded in Columbia, but don't do the blogs as that would probably be considered advertising and spam. Grey Wanderer | Talk 18:19, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
"The song "Whiskey Bottle," by Uncle Tupelo, is rumored to be about the city of Columbia, as it makes specific reference to a sign which used be displayed on a Columbia tackle shop sign which read "Liquor, Guns, and Ammo." The sign is now displayed at the downtown location of the world-famous Shakespeare's."
This is in the "Popular Music Scene" section, I bolded the important part. Is Shakespeare's really world-famous? I love their pizza and it's pretty well-known in Missouri, but as far as I know outside of Missouri nobody has really heard of it. Me5000 17:41, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
It says the population is 96,700 as of 2007 with this page [3] as a source, but I can't find anything about the population there. There is this page for the population as of 2006 [4]. Then it says the Metropolitan Statistical Area is 153,283 with this as a source [5], but that seems to be from 2005. With the sentence worded the way it is I think it would be assumed both are for 2007. I found statistics for MSA as of 2006 here [6]. Me5000 18:51, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for catching that, the 96,700 figure is from an old estimate and a source that no longer exist, I forgot to change it in the lead paragraph when I changed it in the infobox. Grey Wanderer | Talk 18:37, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
I saw the radio section got deleted because of all the external links, most of these stations have pages on wikipedia we just need to find them. Grey Wanderer | Talk 18:37, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
I'm thinking that we should use something different than a photo of Jesse Hall and the Columns for the top photo on this article. I'm having a hard time thinking of a place or image that symbolizes Columbia to me, though. Any ideas? Polpo 00:35, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
Yeah I kinda agree, what we really need is a 'skyline' shot from the east that shows the tiger hotel, jesse hall, memorial union, and paquin tower. Problem is I don't know where we would get one thats not copyrighted. Grey Wanderer | Talk 18:22, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
I added a skyline picture, tell me what you think! I uploaded 3 versions, and of the 3 I found this one to be the best.
Here are all of the pictures I uploaded:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:CoMoSkyline.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:CoMoSkyline2.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:CoMoSkyline3.jpg
Me5000 00:31, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
I could upload some unedited versions too and let someone else crop them if these don't work. Me5000 00:59, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
I've been working on moving the article to FA-status, and we're closer now with recent GA promotion, but I think some specific pics would help out. I don't have a camera or very good photography skills so if anyone wants to take these here is a list, off the top of my head:
Grey Wanderer | Talk 00:53, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
Great! anything you can do would be appreciated. The building your thinking of is the Boone County Courthouse, which could be used as well. City Hall is on the northeast corner of the intersection of Broadway and 7th street. Its a five story converted hotel (Daniel Boone Hotel). Grey Wanderer | Talk 12:24, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
I was re-reading the article and have thought of some things we could do to perhaps improve the article.
Its a lot easier to say what needs to be done than it is to actually do it, so I will try to make some of the additions I have suggested in the near future. I think there is a lot we can do to add to the article. I am not very keen on grammar and writing style, but perhaps someone who is could assess the article's readability or something. Breakyunit ( talk) 12:21, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
There was a study done several years ago that mentioned Columbia as one of the best places to open a restaurant. A whole listing of those types of awards can be found here. Is it ok if I add you to the "maintained box" on the top of this page? Grey Wanderer | Talk 12:32, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
Excellent. I'll read that in more detail later when I'm not too tired. Yes you can add me to the "maintained box", thanks for asking. Breakyunit ( talk) 12:37, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
The Show-Me State Games are definitely worth mentioning, according to this article it had more participants than any other state game in 2004. The COLT Railroad may also be worth mentioning under transportation. Me5000 ( talk) 20:39, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
It would be very much appreciated if everyone did website citations in this format: <ref>{{cite web | url= | title= | work= | accessdate=}}</ref>, here is a guide in case you're not sure what goes in each section. Here is a list of all the citation templates if the reference isn't from a website. Thank you. Me5000 ( talk) 16:40, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
No problem, I just wanted to thank both of you guys, and the random editors who have made one or two edits, for the drive to improve the page. As much as I do on Wikipedia, this is the first time I've really been involved with hard-working and active editors really intent on bring a page to FA-status. Grey Wanderer | Talk 21:43, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
You may be able to do it somehow (I don't know how) and I think it is good information to include, but watch out for WP:OR.- Grey Wanderer | Talk 00:19, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
It is my understanding that some have suggested cutting some from the history paragraph in the intro and some from the history section.
I think changing these two sentences (which are in the intro)
"In 1818 a group of settlers, incorporated under the Smithton Land Company, purchased over 2,000 acres (8 km²) and established the village of Smithton less than a mile from current day downtown Columbia. In 1821 the settlers moved, because of lack of water, across the Flat Branch to the plateau between the Flat Branch and Hinkson creeks in what is now the downtown district."
into
"In 1821 a group of settlers incorporated under the Smithton Land Company moved from their nearby village, because of lack of water, across the Flat Branch to the plateau that is now the downtown district."
or even
"In 1821 a group of settlers moved from their nearby village, because of lack of water, across the Flat Branch to the plateau that is now the downtown district."
since it is just the intro and the first sentence as it is in the article doesn't tell us much about Columbia itself.
In the History section, I propose changing these sentences:
"In 1678 La Salle claimed all of Missouri for France." →Is inconsequential in this context and doesn't tell us much about Columbia, I think it can be removed.
"In 1806, Daniel Boone and his sons established a salt lick 40 miles (64 km) northwest of Columbia. The Booneslick Trail wound from Kentucky through St. Charles, Missouri to the salt lick." →This info doesn't seem to add much because the next sentence doesn't say that these trails were responsible for settlement. If they were responsible, then maybe the next sentence should attest to the significance of these two sentences.
"In addition, the now defunct Silvey Insurance was once a large local employer." →I don't know if this is important enough to include in this article.
What do you guys think? -- Breakyunit ( talk) 21:14, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
I really think the history section itself is fine, it compares similarly with other FA city articles I've seen. I enacted your intro paragraph suggestion above, I think its quite a bit more concise. Thanks for your work, I love seeing the article get better by the hour. Grey Wanderer | Talk 02:31, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm having some trouble finding the exact statistics in the demography section(I'm not sure that they exist). this source has median household income and per capita income, but nothing about the poverty line or median family income. These sources [7] and [8] Have things about the median age, but some of the statistics aren't in the same format as the demography section(the source has ages 15 and younger instead of 18 and 16 to 24 instead of 18 to 24) . So, is the section going to need to be rewritten some what or are there some sources somewhere that I couldn't find? Me5000 ( talk) 02:43, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
The following statistics are still unsourced:
I might be wrong, but shouldn't Mid-Missouri be capitalized as it is a proper noun, I was thinking of creating an article for the loosely defined area sometime soon.- Grey Wanderer | Talk 20:31, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
I removed a malformed FAC template for a nomination that was never submitted to WP:FAC. Also, per WP:FAC/ar, nominations can be resubmitted once issues raised are addressed. The article previously failed on January 23, and these are all the changes made since then. Perhaps an extensive (at least a month) peer review would help get the article in shape for FAC. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 04:24, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
This article states that COMO is in Missouri's 9th Congressional district, however, that district has been dissolved. The information regarding what Congressional district COMO is in needs to be updated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.161.216.45 ( talk) 03:17, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
I would love to incorporate a nice accolade from Parade Magazine given recently (15 April 2012) to Columbia, MO, but I just don't know how to go about it. Parade named Columbia "America's Hardest Working Town" ( [9]) based on "Average hours worked per capita", "Willingness to Work During Personal Time", "Number of Dual-Income Homes", and "Local Employment Rate". What does anyone else think? I would appreciate it if somebody much more able than I could work it in somehow. KyleECronin ( talk) 07:55, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
Tasks remaining to be done to attain FA status:
-- Millbrooky ( talk) 04:17, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
I heard a needle scratch when I read: "The economy of the metro area is slightly larger than that of the Bahamas." While it's certainly a fun piece of trivia, it conveys no real information regarding Columbia's economy. Unless the Bahaman economy is used as some sort of universal benchmark (which it isn't), there's no connection. There have got to be other Midwestern American cities that would better serve as a comparison, if such a comparison is necessary at all. PacificBoy 00:36, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
The Government and Politics section is an exact duplicate of the other article. Therefore I'm proposing that the aforementioned article is merged into the Government and Politics section of this article.
Dobby22 ( talk) 22:17, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
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I've given Columbia, Missouri a B on the quality scale> It could still use some work but, it has come a long way.
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You could include a section about the food culture in Columbia. I believe it is a large part of the downtown scene. Many restaurants have had a long and interesting history in the city. Berry2205 ( talk) 19:42, 6 November 2017 (UTC)
Hi guys. This is a great article and the place sounds great. There's been a broken reference forever, for the NOAA weather data. The current broken name was inserted in 2016 here by CaradhrasAiguo and it was broken even then! I can't imagine why that edit was made. I don't know enough about weather to find a new NOAA source for this city, so can someone else do that? Does Grey Wanderer know? — Smuckola (talk) 04:22, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
Okay cool, CaradhrasAiguo, how did you fix a named reference that isn't defined in the article just by renaming it? Is it sourced from wikidata or what manner of black magic voodoo is this? :) — Smuckola (talk) 04:38, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
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leave language) 04:41, 31 July 2020 (UTC)What city class is Columbia Missouri 97.85.242.219 ( talk) 01:56, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
Seen this matter on several news outlets. Was this a school shooting or workplace shooting, and can this be used in the article? Everything from KTVO to CNN covered this. Will look into this as well.Thanks. 🥺😘 Nuclear Sergeant ( talk) 09:28, 14 July 2023 (UTC)