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Under the "History" section, there is a sentence which does not appear to make much sense. It reads:

" Abdul Hamid, the last Khalifa of the world, oppose Zionist movement, but failed." My problems with this sentence are twofold: Firstly, it is not grammatically correct, as it should read "Abdul Hamid, the last Khalifa of the world, opposed Zionist movement, but failed." Secondly, it does not convey much encyclopedic information. How did he "oppose Zionist movement"? This is not elaborated upon in the text to my knowledge. Why does the article refer to Abdul Hamid as "the last Khalifa of the world"? This title is not used in Hamid's main article, and it appears to be invented by whoever wrote it.

Can this sentence be excised or altered to be more encyclopedic? Thanks. JohnR1Roberts ( talk) 14:09, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply

 Done. @ JohnR1Roberts, is it more acceptable now? — kashmīrī  ^TALK 16:26, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply

I like the new wording. JohnR1Roberts ( talk) 16:37, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Under the 'Art, music, and clothing' Section there is a picture of 'Palestinian children in their traditional dress'. The picture itself was taken in London (on Oct. 9th 2023), and it is not clear this has anything to do with 'traditional Palestinian clothing'. The picture does contain a political message which is irrelevant to the information discussed in the section, and in addition contains a short manifesto in text when opened "There are more than two million people living there, and this brutal form of collective punishment is clearly a war crime which threatens the lives of all of them...". I suggest deleting this picture or finding a more suitable image which is relevant to the information discussed.— Preceding unsigned comment added by an unspecified IP address

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Please change the first sentence from: "Palestine (Arabic: فلسطين, romanized: Filasṭīn), officially the State of Palestine (دولة فلسطين, Dawlat Filasṭīn), is a country in the southern Levant region of West Asia."

"To:

"Palestine (Arabic: فلسطين, romanized: Filasṭīn), officially the State of Palestine (دولة فلسطين, Dawlat Filasṭīn), is a territory in the southern Levant region of West Asia."

This change aims to reflect a more neutral stance by describing Palestine as a territory, acknowledging the disputed nature of its status.

Sources:

United Nations General Assembly Resolution A/RES/67/19U.S.

Department of State - Country Profiles

European Union - External Action Service, "EU Relations with Palestine" ヘンドリックス ( talk) 20:10, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Not done. Has been discussed more than once. The clue is in the name "State of... Selfstudier ( talk) 21:09, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Mistake: “The region of Palestine has played an important part in world history… Judaism traces its origins back to historic Palestine during biblical times.”

Correction: “The region historically known today as Palestine has played an important part in world history. In ancient times, this area was known by various names depending on the ruling empire, including Canaan, Israel, Judah, and later Judea. The term ‘Palestine’ itself was more broadly applied by the Greeks and Romans.” 2603:9008:1607:E4FD:6848:D6C:3FC0:6598 ( talk) 13:09, 26 May 2024 (UTC) reply

We do to need to list every name in this sentence. I also note you left out Philistine and Pelesheth. Slatersteven ( talk) 13:13, 26 May 2024 (UTC) reply

In Early History, the sentence “The Israelites, Abraham's descendants, settled in Canaan, which later became known as Palestine.” is misleading because there are thousands of years between Canaan and the use of the term “Palestine”.

A more correct option for a rewrite would be The Israelites, Abraham's descendants, settled in Canaan, which eventually became known as Palestine and Israel.

The citation has nothing to do with any of this and must be removed. Citation 28 links to an illustrated children’s version of the Mormon re-telling of the Hebrew Bible. This is an inappropriate link because the Mormon religion is never mentioned in the article, and because the term “Palestine” never appears in the linked page. Instead, the linked source claims that the land of Canaan came to be known as the land of Israel or the land of Judah. 2601:80:8600:EFA0:897D:F00F:62A0:7682 ( talk) 17:32, 26 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Removed unreliable source and replaced with cn tag. Selfstudier ( talk) 17:50, 26 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Many paragraphs in this article share the same error, I can go through paragraph by paragraph and reference by reference if needed, but in general: if a paragraph is 5 sentences long and only cites one source, there is no reason to have 5 identical inline citations in that paragraph. Just one at the end of the paragraph is sufficient and is the way to adhere to Wikipedia’s guidelines on clutter. 174.247.80.205 ( talk) 20:58, 26 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Specifics, please. Selfstudier ( talk) 21:59, 26 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Early History, 3rd paragraph is 7 sentences long, and has 7 consecutive links to citation 39. Also, 39 appears to be a dead link.

I suggest removing all instances of [39] and adding one instance of citation needed to the end of the paragraph 2601:80:8600:EFA0:C5B7:ECFB:7F54:4012 ( talk) 18:21, 27 May 2024 (UTC) reply

It's currently 38 and the link is archived here. Selfstudier ( talk) 08:48, 29 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Early History 4th paragraph has 8 consecutive references to citation 40. There should only be one citation at the end of the paragraph in this case.

Additionally, reference 40 is an opinion piece. There are no sources in it besides Quranic quotes and at the end the publisher notes “Author is an engineering student. The opinions expressed in this article are those of the author’s and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of Kashmir Life.”

This passage is a direct quote from the cited editorial: “So many chapters and verses have been revealed in the Quran to enlighten the people about the inhumanity of Israel and its people. The Jews, the people of Israel are cursed for killing their Prophets and disobeying Allah’s commands.

I think we can find a source with better credibility than this and I suggest deleting all instances of [40] and adding cn tag to the end of the paragraph. 2601:80:8600:EFA0:C5B7:ECFB:7F54:4012 ( talk) 18:39, 27 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Currently 39, I removed all but one and tagged it for better source. Selfstudier ( talk) 09:07, 29 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Roman Empire paragraphs 2 and 3 exclusively cite reference [44], 6 times in a row. I suggest de-cluttering these redundant citations.

Additionally, the second paragraph misquotes its source by stating, “After the Jewish revolts, the Romans abolished the client kingdom and transformed Judea into a Roman province called Judea.” This is clearly false on its face. Obviously the Romans did not “transform Judea into Judea”.

Source 44 actually states, “The Emperor Hadrian was so enraged by Jewish resistance that he re-named the province Syria Palaestina (after the two traditional enemies of the Jews, the Syrians and the Philistines) and banished all Jews from the region, building his city Aelia Capitolina on the ruins of Jerusalem.”

I suggest re-writing paragraph 2 to more accurately reflect the content of the source. Edits in brackets:

After the Jewish revolts, the Romans abolished the client kingdom and [changed the name of the province from Judea to Syria Palaestina.] The Roman administration imposed direct rule, leading to the [banishment] of [all] Jewish communities [in the region.] The destruction of the Second Temple… 2601:80:8600:EFA0:C5B7:ECFB:7F54:4012 ( talk) 19:24, 27 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Middle Age paragraph 3, 6 consecutive links to reference 50. 1 link at the end of the paragraph will suffice.

Middle Age paragraph 4, 8 consecutive links to reference 51. 2601:80:8600:EFA0:C5B7:ECFB:7F54:4012 ( talk) 19:29, 27 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Ottoman Palestine paragraph 2, 4 consecutive links to [52].

Additionally, [50] and [52] are identical urls. All instances of 52 should be deleted and replaced with 50 2601:80:8600:EFA0:C5B7:ECFB:7F54:4012 ( talk) 19:33, 27 May 2024 (UTC) reply

There has been some editing of the article, can you redo the ones not yet fixed, thanks. Selfstudier ( talk) 23:00, 30 May 2024 (UTC) reply

All issues with that section are resolved. Thank you Doug. 174.247.80.69 ( talk) 23:08, 30 May 2024 (UTC) reply

References 45 and 46 are identical 2601:80:8600:EFA0:C5B7:ECFB:7F54:4012 ( talk) 19:39, 27 May 2024 (UTC) reply

58 and 59 are identical 2601:80:8600:EFA0:C5B7:ECFB:7F54:4012 ( talk) 19:40, 27 May 2024 (UTC) reply

They seem different? Selfstudier ( talk) 08:40, 29 May 2024 (UTC) reply

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This page has fringe text. In particular the early history section appears to draw pn myth uncritically.

Text to change: The Exodus from Egypt, led by Moses, is a pivotal event in Jewish history, symbolizing deliverance from slavery and the return to their ancestral homeland.

New text: (empty)

The exodus didn't happen, and thus shouldn't be presented as history.

12.75.41.36 ( talk) 03:48, 30 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Maybe, but they claim it did, thus is a pivotal moment in their history. Slatersteven ( talk) 08:58, 30 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Either way, I guess it is a misalignment issue because the primary article, The Exodus, calls it a founding myth, and this article calls it history, both using wiki-voice. This is probably not ideal. Sean.hoyland ( talk) 09:14, 30 May 2024 (UTC) reply

So we re-word it, such as "The Exodus from Egypt, led by Moses, is a pivotal event in Jewish mythology, symbolizing deliverance from slavery and the return to their ancestral homeland.". Slatersteven ( talk) 09:18, 30 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Doug Weller's solution works for me. Sean.hoyland ( talk) 09:23, 30 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Seconded. Thanks Doug for the Gordian (k)not. Nishidani ( talk) 09:35, 30 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Thanks folks. That editor has real CIR issues. [1]. No clue about reliable sources. Doug Weller talk 10:18, 30 May 2024 (UTC) reply

+1 – the pre-modern content was never relevant in the first place. Iskandar323 ( talk) 13:16, 30 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Though the lead needs fixing/aligning too now. Iskandar323 ( talk) 13:18, 30 May 2024 (UTC) reply

I suggest an edit of adding “Late Ottomam Era” as the header for the first paragraph in History. 174.247.80.69 ( talk) 23:48, 30 May 2024 (UTC) reply

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change country to state - Palestine is not an official country. Alamanara Alababur ( talk) 12:55, 31 May 2024 (UTC) reply

 Not done

see talk page archive. Slatersteven ( talk) 12:56, 31 May 2024 (UTC) reply

See the article country to check your understanding of the word's meaning and usage. Sean.hoyland ( talk) 13:09, 31 May 2024 (UTC) reply

While the State of Palestine is factually a partially recognized country, so is China, Taiwan, Kosovo, and (the State of) Israel. Yet, the lede of none of the above articles are being written as such; they are simply "a country". I feel that the first sentence of the lede should refer to the SoP as just "a country", but a sentence further down the paragraph could include "the State's limited international recognition by just 145/193 UN member states plus the Holy See" or something like that. (?) Josethewikier ( talk) 21:40, 31 May 2024 (UTC) reply

that is to say I request to merge the 4th paragraph of the lede into the 1st is what could work. Josethewikier ( talk) 21:42, 31 May 2024 (UTC) reply

As with Kosovo, the lede sentence should match in that "Palestine is a country ... with partial diplomatic recognition" as opposed to "Palestine is a partially recognized country ...". See Kosovo Etsaloto ( talk) 23:07, 31 May 2024 (UTC) reply

I second this. The sentence structure "...is a partially recognized country" implies or stresses that less than half of the countries in the world recognise Palestine, when this is far from the case (MW defines "partially" as "to some extent; in some degree"). If Taiwan (recognised by just around a dozen countries) is simply described as a "country" in the lede in its article, with its political status only mentioned at length several paragraphs down, why can't this be done for Palestine, whose diplomatic recognition is far more widespread? Yekshemesh ( talk) 02:19, 4 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Invaison should be invasion. The Nookster ( talk) 17:10, 3 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Fixed. Slatersteven ( talk) 17:13, 3 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Im new so i might be making a mistake (sorry if i do)

"Currently, the biggest challenges to the country include the Israeli occupation, partial blockade, restrictions on movement, Israeli settlements and settler violence, as well as an overall poor security situation."

In this sentence I think there is a comma splice. "and settler violence, as well as an overall poor security situation." Here you say "and" but also put a comma before "as well" as shown "settler violence, as well". I suggest to edit it and make it either a semi-colon or make it a new sentence. Just noticed it and thought I'd let yall know.

Thanks. Onm21 ( talk) 17:21, 13 June 2024 (UTC) reply

 Not done Much appreciated, but as well as an overall poor security situation isn't an independent clause, so this isn't a comma splice. Remsense 诉 18:04, 13 June 2024 (UTC) reply

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"the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, collectively known as the Palestinian territories — within the larger region of Palestine" this is a technical and geographical inaccuracy. the 2 palestinian states (governed by different governments) are within the region of Israel. Regardless of the political opinion, this is geographically inaccurate and may be misleading. Maleuser999 ( talk) 15:00, 14 June 2024 (UTC) reply

 Not done – incorrect, see Palestine (region). Remsense 诉 15:01, 14 June 2024 (UTC) reply

The final paragraph in the introduction summary section contains a sentence which reads: "Despite these challenges, the country remains one of the most highly-educated countries in the Arab world." I am unsure by what metric this is measured, as the Wikipedia article on education in the Arab world places Palestine around the middle of the pack as well as low internationally.

Perhaps it is my misunderstanding but please review and take the action you deem necessary. 76.244.42.200 ( talk) 07:41, 16 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Education in the Arab World is poorly sourced, and the table presented there is completely unsourced (we aren't even told what parameter the ranking refers too). That said, I agree that the claim here is also unsourced and a knowledgeable editor should look into it. — kashmīrī  ^TALK 08:09, 16 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Treating your comment as an edit request to remove the relevant material on the basis that is is unsourced, I have done so. It's not in the education section or elsewhere in the article body that I can see. Selfstudier ( talk) 11:13, 16 June 2024 (UTC) reply

I'm glad action was taken, however now I have a different concern about the same section. There are two back-to-back sentences in the exact same place that contain grammatical errors.

"Unsolved remain the question of Palestine's borders..." – should be "remains" instead of "remain"

"Despite these challenges, the country, maintains an emerging economy, and sees frequent tourism." – need to remove extraneous commas. Should be corrected to "Despite these challenges, the country maintains an emerging economy and sees frequent tourism." 76.244.42.200 ( talk) 00:30, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply

I've gone ahead and made those fixes. Thank you for pointing them out - Antandrus (talk) 01:36, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply