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Please see slovene on m-w.com. Firstly, the word 'Slovenian' may function as an adjective or a noun. Secondly, an adjective seems more appropriate in this context anyway. Thirdly, since 'Slovene' is directly equivalent to the German 'Slowene', and therefore I make the presumption that 'Slovenian' must be directly equivalent to the German 'Slowenische'. On the other hand, the best I can do in German is say yes, no, count to nine and say 'out' and make the occasional comment about swords, blood and bazookas, so this may well be based on flawed reasoning. If anyone who actually knows a word of German can help me out here, perhaps by telling me the difference between Slowenische/Slowene and telling me if they are adjective or nouns, it would be appreciated :). At some point, I am also going to have to stop arguing and just write the article. -- Lezek
Some resources for the purpose of writing the article
Lezek 19:17 Dec 26, 2002 (UTC)
Is there any substantiation for the statement, "In recent years it has been connected to Neo-Nazis?" I know by reputation, and in one case personally, several artists connected to NSK, and they are no closer to being Nazi sympathizers than I am (and I'm a Jew). NSK has always toyed with totalitarian images of all sorts, often by juxtaposing them with one another in combinations so politically incompatible that it is hard for me to imagine an other-than-satirical purpose, so merely showing that they may have used some particular symbol would mean nothing in this respect. -- Jmabel | Talk 06:48, Oct 25, 2004 (UTC)
i can understand how some bands with no intention of being white power bands can nevertheless be adopted by white supremacists. i hear something to that extent happened to joy division, because of the band's name. there is no doubt in my mind that there are quite some neo-nazi consumers of laibach's music (an image from the moscow gig of the WAT tour comes to mind - there were skinheads, vawing swastika adorned flags in the audience). i would think this is what mislead whoever assumed laibach was connected to neo-nazi movements. but in this instance, the whole thing is not only entirely off the mark, it's even ironic - imagine neonazis enjoying laibach music, and all the time not even realizing that the whole totalitarian image of the band is an elaborate joke, one that the same neonazis are now pulling on themselves. i would think the band would to an extent even encourage this sort of misunderstanings, as they only add to their cryptic fame. a few days ago, i saw an interview with peter mlakar, NSK's resident philosopher/preacher/de sade scholar, and he stressed out what a devout christian he was. this of course sounds absurd, as his sermons are "christian" only in form, but for the most time deal with love, sex and the g-spot. but then, this is the core of the whole NSK approach - shock by amalgamation of completely contrasting ideas. 213.172.254.20 02:52, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
I have so far left intact someone else's claim that NSK originated in Trbovlje. I know that's where the band Laibach are from, but did NSK as such begin there? Laibach were around for about 4 years before NSK started; see VH1's bio of Laibach. Should we strike the name of the particular town from the article? -- Jmabel | Talk 05:05, Nov 25, 2004 (UTC)
Why remove Category:Propaganda? Most of the visual art of NSK reappropriates propaganda, no? -- Jmabel | Talk 06:20, Dec 8, 2004 (UTC)
It finally came to my mind, drowned in cliches, why would you claim it "reappropriates propaganda"? It reappropriates symbols. Symbols are not necessarily created with the goal of propaganda. They are created to denote something, for reference; this is their primary purpose. They may be used in propaganda purposes (which is not the porpose of NSK). For example, TV is heavily used in propaganda. Why don't you slap this category onto the TV article? Mikkalai 19:39, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)
I just (belatedly) saw the NSK exhibit at the Frye Art Museum in Seattle, which closes at the end of July. I believe (but have no citation) that this is the first NSK exhibit in a "regular" art museum, one not specifically devoted to avant garde art. I won't put that in the article without citation, but I'd be interested to know if anyone either can confirm or knows otherwise.
Anyway, it was quite an experience to pass through the Frye's permanent collection (very tame, nothing more radical than the Munich Succession), and walk into a large space mostly filled with Neil K. Rector's NSK collection. It was even weirder because at the time I was visiting, so was a group from an assisted living facility for seniors, mostly either with walkers or wheelchairs: not exactly the usual audience to see a video of "Tanz Mit Leibach". There was also a 40-ish couple from Denver who had come merely expecting to pay a somewhat dutiful visit to what they figured would be the dowdy aunt among Seattle's museums, and instead discovering her mischievous offspring.
I gather that the Frye exhibition has exposed this work to an audience that would not usually see it. The only constant in the Frye's programming is that the work is representational rather than abstract. That often draws a relatively artistically conservative crowd. And it reminded me how shocking NSK works can be when you first see them; the humor creeps up on you much more slowly. -- Jmabel | Talk 06:35, July 20, 2005 (UTC)
There should be more mentioned about the NSK "state" like how it's called The Slovenia of Athens. etc. 67.5.157.4 ( talk) 00:24, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
The following text was moved from Culture of Slovenia as that article should discuss culture of Slovenia in general, not of NSK. -- 109.182.26.125 ( talk) 14:26, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
right|thumb|100px|Logo of Neue Slowenische Kunst Neue Slowenische Kunst (a German phrase meaning "New Slovenian Art"), aka NSK, is a controversial political art collective that announced itself in Slovenia in 1984, when Slovenia was part of Yugoslavia. NSK's name, being German, is compatible with a theme in NSK works: the complicated relationship Slovenes have had with Germans. The name of NSK's music wing, Laibach, is also the German name of the Slovene capital Ljubljana, creating controversy through evoking memories of the Nazi occupation of Slovenia during the Second World War. [1]
NSK's best-known member is the musical group Laibach. Other NSK member groups include IRWIN (visual art), Noordung (theater; originally named Scipion Našice Sisters Theater, also known as Red Pilot), New Collective Studio (graphics; also known as New Collectivism), Retrovision (film and video), and the Department of Pure and Applied Philosophy (theory). [2] [3] [4] The founding groups of the NSK were Laibach, IRWIN, and Scipion Našice Sisters Theater.
NSK art often draws on symbols drawn from totalitarian or extreme nationalist movements, often reappropriating totalitarian kitsch in a visual style reminiscent of Dada. NSK artists often juxtapose symbols from different (and often incompatible) political ideologies. For example, a 1987 NSK-designed poster caused a scandal by winning a competition for the Yugoslavian Youth Day Celebration. The poster appropriated a painting by Nazi artist Richard Klein, replacing the flag of Nazi Germany with the Yugoslav flag and the German eagle with a dove. [3]
Both IRWIN and Laibach are emphatic about their work being collective rather than individual. Laibach's original songs and arrangements are always credited to the group collectively; the individual artists are not named on their album covers; at one point, there were even two separate Laibach groups touring at the same time, both with members of the original group. Similarly, the IRWIN artists never sign their work individually; instead, they are "signed" with a stamp or certificate indicating approval as a work from the IRWIN collective.
The NSK were the subject of a 1996 documentary film written and directed by Michael Benson, entitled Prerokbe Ognja in Slovenian, or Predictions of Fire in English. [5] Among those interviewed in the film is Slovenian intellectual Slavoj Žižek.
Since 1991, NSK claims to constitute a state, [6] a claim similar to that of micronations. They issue passports, [7] have presented shows of their work in the guise of an embassy or even as a territory of their supposed state, and maintain consulates in several cities including Umag, Croatia. [8] NSK have also issued postage stamps. Laibach, in 2006, recorded (some may say 'remixed') the NSK State National Anthem on the LP "Volk." The "anthem" adopts its melody from another Laibach song, "The Great Seal." Laibach's version of the NSK anthem includes a computer voice reciting an excerpt from Winston Churchill's famous " We shall fight them on the beaches/We shall never surrender" speech. The computer voice is clearly recognisable as the voice synthesiser Macintalk, built into Mac OS, and uses the preset voice Ralph.
The NSK passports are an art project and as such are not valid for travel. However, many desperate people have fallen for a scam in which they are issued a NSK passport. Most of these scams originate in Nigeria and Egypt. [9] -- 109.182.26.125 ( talk) 14:26, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
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I would like to see a source for "The same abbreviation 'NSK' was also used in Nazi Germany for the press agency of the ruling Nazi Party, Nationalsozialistische Parteikorrespondenz." -- 85.148.244.121 ( talk) 11:30, 7 March 2020 (UTC)