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As my first day as a logged user, I have made an addition to the meaning of Necronomicon; hope to be welcomed. The Warlock
Re. the first para. discussion of the meaning of the word: I have to take issue with the "more prosaic (but probably more correct) translation". If the book is an invention of Lovecraft, then surely his definition of the meaning must be the correct one! -- Pamplemousse 05:37, 31 Aug 2003 (UTC)
It was mentioned in the article that it needed to be cleaned up-- so I stuck a cleanup template on there. If you guys don't think it belongs, I've got no emotional attachment to it-- feel free to remove it. -- Southwest — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.93.39.245 ( talk) 01:18, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
The Necronomicon itself is an actual text, but it is not at all that ancient. It was written by H.P. Lovecraft himself under the pseudonym " The Mad Arab Abdul Alhazred." I suggest you edit your definition lest some poor soul be misled by the information and attempt to wreak havoc across the land with a bogus curse.
(Though I must say, I have tried a few spells in the Necronomicon and they have at least given me the illusion that they do work, considering that 90% of the time they are actually put into effect) User:NeverLasting
All of you are wrong look it up online the Necronomicon DID exist and there are many translations today any Darker Aspect Pagan can tell you this it was written in the year 730 CE by a Damascus Scholar by the name of Abdul Alhazred this scholar had a reputation in his neighborhood of being a Necromancer and Heretic of the teachings of Mohammoud the spells listed in this book do Work i have three copies sitting on my shelf at the moment (one that is a full translation of Alhazred's work and the otehr two are just the spells) i myself am a darker aspect pagan and it irks me to no end when people misconstrue the Necronomicon as a work of fiction it is not and if for some reason you dont believe me then Google Abdul Alhazred and it will pull up many different reliable non user edited sources that PROVE the Necronomicon did/does exist [User:Celticdragon65] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Celticdragon65 ( talk • contribs) 21:03, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
I've collected a number of excerpts from Lovecrafts stories, where he's directly quoting the Necronomicon. I thought it would be interesting to put these all together somewhere, if not in this article then perhaps in WikiQuotes or WikiBooks to make some form of fragmented official text, whichever would be most appropriate. Any thoughts? -- Quoth 02:17, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the explanation - I'm just getting the hang of this, and I've found your summary. However, I disagree with your reasoning. I think that excerpts can add to our understanding of the nature of this fictional book. I see from your page that you are probably an expert in copyright law! Perhaps you are being over-cautious, because I am sure you know that fair use permits the use of short extracts of copyrighted text for purposes such as review. Also, I see that Wikipedia Policy ( Wikipedia:Copyrights) permits the fair-use reproduction of text extracts, but it does ask for this fact to be noted. Although the attribution alone might be considered sufficient, perhaps we could be even clearer and write:
It would probably be better to place such excerpts in a wikiquote article and link to it from this one TheDragonMaster 22:41, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
Probably Necro-Nomicon, the first one listed in the article. Cf. Astronomicon. Though since the book may simply be fictional and Lovecraft may have had no exact idea of the meaning he intended, it may be irrelevant to speculate which is more correct. Alexander 007 08:13, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
Necronomicon is latin and it translates to "The Ways of the Dead" [User:Celticdragon65] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Celticdragon65 ( talk • contribs) 21:05, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
I wrote an article on the Simon Necronomicon. Someone might want to take a look at it. SpectrumDT 20:04, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
I don't know who writes all of the crap on your website, but I will never use it again. The Necronomicon is roughly "the exposition of the ways of the dead" it is an actual text writter by an islam known today as Abdul Alhazred (Alhazred means something close to "the servant of the evil") His real surname is lost. It was written in the early seventh century during his travels through the desert after being exiled from his homeland because of an affair he had with a woman of much higher social class. He was forced to live off of whatever he found in the desert until he made his way back to a civilization. And wrote the Necronomicon in his home afterward. The fact that this site has that it is a fake document or that it was written by Lovecraft is insulting and a joke. It is by far the most controversial book in history and it was almost lost because it has been outlawed and destroyed throughout history. If you wish to further rid yourselves of your complete ignorance, go to your local bookstore and have them search you up a copy because you can buy English translations of it for under $20. The next time you have a brain fart about what you think you know, please keep it to yourself instead of sharing it with millions of people who will call you a dumbass for posting false information on website that is supposed to help people.
How exactly is the Necronomicon a deus ex machina? I find this a frank mislabeling. A deus ex machina indicates the interaction of a device with a plot. The Necronomicon does not have any interaction or resolution in Lovecraft's plots. A term that would be more applicable to the argument, I think, is "name dropping". Moneyobie 3:43, 24 January 2006
A blatant hoax version of the Necronomicon was produced by paranormal researcher and writer Colin Wilson, describing how it was translated by computer from a discovered "cipher text." It is far truer to the Lovecraftian version and even incorporates quotations from Lovecraft's stories into its passages. -- I suspect this needs correction. Apparently it refers to the 1978 UK-published "Necronomicon" whose cover credits are: "Edited by George Hay. Introduced by Colin Wilson. Researched by Robert Turner and David Langford." That is, George Hay (not the ice hockey player who has a Wikipedia entry) was overall editor, Colin Wilson wrote only the introduction, the occultist Robert Turner was responsible for the supposed Necronomicon content, and I described the (imaginary) computer translation from (actual) cipher tables by Dr John Dee. Others contributed commentary, including L. Sprague de Camp and Angela Carter. David Langford-- 84.51.152.72 11:51, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone have a better explanation of this? It says that some believe the name was inspired by "The Fall of the House of Usher" but in what way? The possible inspiration from "Astronomicon" is fnord clear, but this bit about Poe is Not. bmearns.....( talk) 15:20, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
"Other appearances" is quite large. Perhaps it should be moved to its own page, like References to the Cthulhu mythos. Bdoserror 22:15, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
I removed the following from the list of locations where the Neconomicon is supposedly kept:
Since the paragraph explicitly references Lovecraft's works, I checked Anthony Pearsall's The Lovecraft Lexicon ("Necronomicon", pg. 294) to see if it is mentioned. It is not. Since it is not referenced in Lovecraft's works, why was this included here?
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In fact it appears mentioned to be a Necronomicon at San Marcos in one of the cthulhu mythos tales, it was in August derleth's "The Lurker at the threshold", as he can be considered one of the "other autors" who created the book it can be considered correct to refer the university of San Marcos. -- General Kane Nash 23:41, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
The University of Florida once (years ago) had a Dee printing in their Rare Books Collection, but I think they may have gotten rid of it. If the Locations section ever goes back in, it'd be worth contacting UF library.
I just removed the copy about Wilbur Whatley having a copy. Although Whatley did possess some obscene volumes, he was killed trying to steal the necronomicon from the Miskatonic.
RlyehRising, I don't see any reason why "Ne-crono-mycon" is not a perfectly serviceable etymology of "Necronomicon." It's certainly not what Lovecraft intended, but it is a possible root to the word. Moreover, it's less far-fetched than, say, "Necro-Nemein-Ikon." Why not leave it in? Korossyl 18:09, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
Why are people insisting that The Necronomicon was H.P. Lovecraft's idea? It is fact that a copy of the book was carbon dated back to 730 or so A.D.
If memory serves (I've lent my copy to someone) the novel Illuminatus! by Robert Anton Wilson has a character visiting Miskatonic University to read the Necronomicon, and finding some revelation in it ("I can see the fnords!"). I don't know if that's something you want to mention? -- Qef 14:05, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
The text on Image:ImamAli.jpg clearly states that this is Imam Ali one of the most important figures for Shea. Why do we claim he is somebody else? Is it a simple vandalism or what? abakharev 04:45, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
It should go without saying that a picture in Wikipedia has to depict the thing that it says it depicts--to put up a picture and say it's the thing because we think it looks like the thing is a deception. Nareek 19:08, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
the necronomicon is real, lovecraft didn't make it up, it's a real book, he just used it in his fiction necronomicon
This article mentiones Metallica, but forgets the band's most relevant song to this theme, a song called The call of Ktulu. It can be found on album Ride the Lightning. - Xezs
"...Lurking beneath the sea Great old one Forbidden site..." and "Not dead which eternal lie Stranger ǣons death may die" - which is a slight variation of the quoted couplet in Lovecraft's novel "The Nameless City" (1921). Jmscheiber ( talk) 19:02, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
It is generally accepted that the Necronomicon is not a real book. H.P.Lovecraft invented it in his horror stories. It first appears in The Hound in 1928. He also never wrote an actual Necronomicon under any pseudonym; his works contain quotations from the Necronomicon only (although calling them quotations is dubious since the book never existed), of which an especially long example is to be found in The Dunwich Horror. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 134.225.182.128 ( talk) 23:04, 6 December 2006 (UTC).
Why don't you put a link to this "fictional book"? There are actual copies. And how do you know if there were errors if the thing was written in the 1300's? Saintjimmy777 13:50, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
Excuse me.. you want him to provide you a link to something that isnt there?!?! Why dont you provide the proof that the book is real Saintjimmy, then we can start talking Sneaking Viper ( talk) 13:37, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
I seem to recall on cable a few months back a feature film called Necronomicon: The Book of the Dead ( http://imdb.com/title/tt0107664/) and I am surprised that it is not listed among the film enteries for the Necronomicon here. Might be a worthy addition. Dragonranger 10:27, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
Necronomicon is also an annual scifi, fantasy & horror convention in Tampa, FL. ( Their website). Should a mention be made on this page? Or at least some sort of disambiguation? Lurlock 16:15, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
If my memory serves me right the "Necronomicon" once appeared in one of the Slayers mangas. Can someone confirm that? Pi314 01:29, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
This is a subject that I have studied for many years. I am familar with both versions and can say with a strong assurence that the H.P. Lovecraft's version of the Necronomicon is not the correct one. There is a different older version that was written by Abdul Azaharad, also known as the mad arab. Lovecraft was a story writter, but this book is for real.
I looked up "book of the dead" with the intent of finding the Egyptian Book of the Dead, and got redirected here. Given that there appear to be a number of texts that could be called "the book of the dead" prehaps a redirect page would be more useful? K e rowyn Leave a note 02:26, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
Someone forgot to mention the book of artwork called necronomicon by the artist who did the cover of Brain Salad Surgery (album) by ELP (band) and inspired alien (film) and aliens (film). His name is H.R. Giger. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Thaddeus Slamp ( talk • contribs) 22:23, 2 April 2007 (UTC). Thaddeus Slamp 22:26, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
This article looked quite dull, so I added a photo of a Necronomicon prop I made for fun for a role playing convention. Shubi 01:38, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
The book is a fictional book and there should be no picture of something that does not exist. I removed the image because it's very misleading. In addition, it did not appear in any of the movies or series, that have different covers which of none look like it. It would be better to use one of them, if a picture is needed, than someone's fun prop, I believe.-- DHCpepper ( talk) 03:39, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
Is anyone aware that there is, in fact, a real necromicon? Whether it's really the original or not (it explains in the book) doesn't matter. It's existant should be acknowledged. Hell, I found it at B. DALTON at my local mall! IN PAPERBACK! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Saintjimmy777 ( talk • contribs) 13:48, 11 May 2007 (UTC).
Did you read it? There are various credits to real people in it. 12.104.119.239 13:59, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
Since the introduction part that is for the definition states that there are books called the Necronomicon, as a way of cashing in, and it is mentioned latter, I think that covers that section. However, if you wish to argue that there is a book that actually DOES the things described and can VERIFY it, I would LOVE a copy. Otherwse, I think the matter is abvout settled. Does anyone have objections to that? Corrupt one 00:56, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
There's too much "Oh, it's also mentioned in THIS!" going on. WP:AVTRIVIA. I'm going to remove most, if not all, of it.
It was not originally H.P. Lovecraft's idea. Abdul Alhazred was a real man who was the author of the real Necromicon, written around 750 A.D. The book was recently on exhibit at the Museum of Cairo in Egypt. Alhazred "wrote" the book when he was imprisoned with 5 or 6 other men (I don't remember the exact number) for I think a year, and when they opened the pit Alhazred was the only thing remaining. He used the skin, bones, and blood of the other men to write the book. It's a true story, not just H.P. Lovecraft's creation. The article should not be, well, how it is.-- WatchHawk 22:41, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
Watchhawk, did you bother to read any of this talk page or the page on Abdul Alhazred? 65.80.73.187 01:19, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
WatchHawk, can you provide any actual sources for this bizarre claim? This is right up with the people who keep posting on the Talk:Dragon page that "Dragons are real, man!" -- Orange Mike | Talk 14:35, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
This is mentioned in the fictional history section. I own quite a few Lovecraft books and I've never seen this. Where could I find this? -- Uselesswarrior ( talk) 15:43, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
I have found references mentioning the Necronomicon being written in seven parts, or seven books. Anyone has references as to what those parts or books might be named? Monstrim ( talk) 03:39, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
Is anyone aware of a citation for the statement "Greek editions of Lovecraft's works have commented that the word can have several different meanings in Greek when broken at its roots"? This has been marked as "Citation Needed" for over a year at least. With so much misinformation floating around on this topic, it would be nice to check if this claim is true. If someone has access to some Greek translations of Lovecraft's works, it would seem easy to resolve this. If it is true, then it can be verified and cited. Otherwise, I suggest that the statement be removed. 0x539 ( talk) 02:20, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
Despite the consistent failure to provide sources for the information in this section, it has been continually re-submitted, between bouts of vandalism on the page itself. I'd rather not edit-war, so can we get some form of consensus, or perhaps some citations for this? For now, I'm just sticking up an original research template, but if anyone else would care to judge and either back this up or delete it, that'd be peachy. - Vianello ( talk) 09:08, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
I propose that we remove the link to the Pulling Report from "Secondary Sources." It is not primarily concerned with the Necronomicon, and does not appear to be mentioned in the article. 0x539 ( talk) 04:19, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
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In Stephen King's short story "I Know What You Need" the main character finds it in her boyfriend's closet.
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Thanks for the heads up. All done. Wikilanjuary ( talk) 11:43, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Is it notable that Anthony Horowitz believes the Necromicon to date from the sixth century? FYI, i'm not disputing that the necromicon originally stems from HP Lovecraft. Source: http://www2.scholastic.com/browse/collateral.jsp?id=39743_type=Contributor_typeId=2666 under the question "Did you make up the Old Ones?". 81.79.107.43 ( talk) 11:32, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
i think that it should be mentioned that in Terry Pratchett's discworld universe, that the necrotelecomnicon, a book which absorbs its readers into its pages and which exists in the library of unseen university likely had its origins as a parody of the necronomicon. 75.57.12.7 ( talk) 08:34, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
OK. Sorry.
based on my experience with it all thoughtforms can cause change. if u use the name of a god long enough and have faith as well as will - desire - belief u can and will accomplish anything u wish. as far as saying if the book is real,my experience tells me yes but only on an astral level. the darkest void on earth is the human mind and no one knows what power good or evil can come from it. it doesnt take much to open the gate of the subconcious,but when opened be prepared for anything that may come out.
In the audiobook "the eyes of the dragon" by Stephen King, the narrator says that the villain Flagg reads from a 'huge book of spells....which was bound in human skin' written by a "madman named Alhazred". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.244.3.206 ( talk) 19:40, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
The first line describes Lovecraft as being a 'novelist'; he was, however, a short story writer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.157.9.229 ( talk) 04:21, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
The word `azif (long I) appears on page 714 of the dictionary cited (Hans Wehr, "A Dictionary of Modern Written Arabic," 4th Edn., J Milton Cowan ed). I'd fix the ref myself but I don't want to create an account... Wiki used to be friendly to anonymous contributors. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.93.168.10 ( talk • contribs)
I have a copy of H.P. Lovecraft Tales published by Library of America which has published most of his works chronologically. The very first story in the collection is The Statement of Randolph Carter. In that story, though the book is not mentioned by name, it is obviously referring to the Necronomicon. In Notes section at the back of the book it lists this story as being first published May 1920 in The Vagrant issue 13, where it was most likely written in December of 1919. This is much earlier and quite a different story than the mentioned in the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 15.195.201.216 ( talk • contribs)
Hello:
The link to The Dan Clore Necronomicon Page ( http://www.geocities.com/clorebeast/necpage.htm ) was recently removed from this page. There was no other explanation except to label it a "spamlink". While I added this link myself, this was not merely self-promotion. My page on the Necronomicon is indisputably among the top-ranking scholarly resources on the subject, and cited as such in the scholarly literature -- e.g., Daniel Harms and John Wisdom Gonce III, The Necronomicon Files: The Truth Behind Lovecraft's Legend.
Please provide an explanation for the deletion of this link.
Thank you.
Clore ( talk) 22:06, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
I put that there for its humor value. (Both HPL and ERB were atheist materialists with no belief in occultism.)
A major portion of the page is devoted to debunking false claims concerning the Necronomicon, H.P. Lovecraft, etc., including false claims like Raschke's. I can only assume that you are not familiar with the page and leapt to incorrect conclusions without really examining it.
Clore ( talk) 23:26, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
If anybody can produce a credible citation about the Necronomicon that definitely occurred before Lovecraft was born then the argument that the book is real is greatly strengthened. Has anybody found such a thing? This would add a lot of weight to the argument, but only if the source is reliable! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.147.156.71 ( talk) 18:58, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
It should be noted that I removed this external link when I noticed that it no longer worked. It had been hosted on Geocities, which went offline forever on October 27, 2009. The link was restored by another user and modified to point to "Reocities," a partial mirror of Geocities which I had not been aware of. The Dan Clore Necronomicon Page is a good resource, but it appears to be defunct. (It doesn't look like "Reocities" pages can be edited or updated.) I'm not sure what wikipedia policies apply to mirrors or archives of vanished pages - Anyone have any thoughts? 0x539 ( talk) 17:36, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
Was there ever a consensus reached on whether this should be included? If not, I'm going to remove it again. 0x539 ( talk) 11:49, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
John Dee translated Necronomicon into English in 1571... and he says "it was written by Alhazred". http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_JKQUd-lTVkg/TA6dj4VgwPI/AAAAAAAACNI/5i7yAUHZabA/s1600/necronomicon02.jpg also, from this article: "The Elizabethan magician John Dee (1527-c. 1609) allegedly translated the book — presumably into English — but Lovecraft wrote that this version was never printed and only fragments survive. (The connection between Dee and the Necronomicon was suggested by Lovecraft's friend Frank Belknap Long.)" Lovecraft knew that Necronomicon was translated into English by John Dee. That's all. Böri ( talk) 07:55, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
I think that many of the arguements made negating the validity of this book could be added to many other "fictional" books, such as the bible, the quran, and the torah. Does nobody see the signifigance of the similarities between all these texts. The bible, epic of gilgamesh, egyptian book of the dead, and many other "socially exceptable" religious texts tell the same story, only minus the darker side to qabballistic and esoteric teachings. Same stories, only with different names and a plot twist or numerical change here and there. talked about in the books:
Translations of the legends of Gilgamesh in the Sumerian language can be found in Black, J.A., Cunningham, G., Fluckiger-Hawker, E, Robson, E., and Zólyomi, G., The Electronic Text Corpus of Sumerian Literature, Oxford 1998-.
Gilgamesh and Huwawa, version A
Gilgamesh and Huwawa, version B
Gilgamesh and the Bull of Heaven
Gilgamesh and Aga
Gilgamesh, Enkidu and the nether world
The death of Gilgamesh
The 1901 full text translation of the Epic of Gilgamesh by William Muss-Arnolt
The Project Gutenberg eBook, An Old Babylonian Version of the Gilgamesh Epic, by Anonymous, Edited by Morris Jastrow, Translated by Albert T. Clay
Gilgamesh by Richard Hooker (wsu.edu)
Genisis Revisited Genesis Revisited: Is Modern Science Catching Up With Ancient Knowledge?, (Avon Books, 1990, ISBN 0-380-76159-9) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Truther03 ( talk • contribs) 06:37, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
It is a surprise to me to see Lovecraft's etymology (νεκρός+νόμος+εικών). With this etymology it should be written in Greek "Νεκρονομεικών" but that would not sound very right! In contrast "Νεκρονομικόν" sounds perfectly natural!
"νόμος" means the law. "-ικόν" has nothing to do with "εικών" (image) but is a very common suffix in Greek that simply means "about the".
"νομικόν" means "about the law" and is a common word. (in modern Greek "νομικός - νομική - νομικό", in ancient Greek "νομικός - νομική - νομικόν", as in modern Greek the "ν" is lost)
For example "Νομική σχολή" = "law school"
"Νεκρονομικόν" is perfectly natural construction and very naturally simply means: "about the law of the dead"
A second way to construct the word and maybe even prettier would be first to construct "νεκρονόμος" (like "αστρονόμος" = "astronomer"), that would be "studier of the dead" or "classifier of the dead", or "νεκρονομία" (like "αστρονομία" = "astronomy"), that would be "science about the dead" or "classification of the dead" or "law of the dead", and then add the suffix (-ικόν) that would naturally imply that it is a book about the subject.
This way "Νεκρονομικόν" = "book studying the dead" or "book classifying the dead". The last translation is Joshi's translation.
-- Lucinos ( talk) 23:17, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
I believe it should be noted somewhere in the article, (or it's pop culture page) that the Necronomicon plays a vital role in Sam Raimi's Evil Dead film series. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moocowtech ( talk • contribs) 12:30, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
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This page is giving false information, the Necronomicon is not a "fictional grimoire" i have a copy of the book sitting next to me on my bed. H.P Lovecraft did not invent the book, it was written, and i quote from the book itself "H.P lovecraft himself denied the books existence, but the dreaded necornomicon has finally surfaced. Written in Damascus in the eighth century A.D by the "Mad Arad" Abdul Alhazred"
This is taken from the blurb of the book. Please change this false information as the book is very real
Ratboy223 ( talk) 19:18, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
I mean no disrespect. The book states in the first few pages that the original was written by Alhazred as the copy i have was written by an unnamed author. The unnamed author stresses greatly how much work and effort by multiple people has gone in to translating the original text and that the original text is kept in a museum which the book does not name. The amount of effort that has gone into this book outwieghs the possibility that it is not a real book. Even if it is "commercially available version" it took me a long while to track down a place that sells the book and it was impossible to find a new copy as the copy i have is nearly 10 years old.
Apologies for any disrespect, that was not my intention. I was merely saying that the book cannot be fictacious if copies are available. And in response to your statement "no one would leave a copy on their bed" i do not treat the book this way. It is kept safely locked away no one else can access the book, except for me. I understand that it is a powerful and dangerous text and i have many similar books. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ratboy223 ( talk • contribs) 09:11, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
Ratboy, "Abdul Alhazred" is not the name of a "mad Arab"; it is a grammatically impossible name invented by HP Lovecraft for an imaginary Arab. Lovecraft's biographers tell us that as a child the author was "crazy about the Arabian Nights" and invented this name long before he conceived of the Necronomicon. Any book purporting to be the latter and attributed to Alhazred is therefore a work of fantasy based on Lovecraft's work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AbdelIrada ( talk • contribs) 14:49, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
"Abdul Alhazred" is grammatically incorrect, but this is not because "Abdul" cannot stand alone as a first name (in fact, it's commonly encountered as such), nor because "Alhazred" denotes geographic provenance. The real problem is that it's redundant: "Abdul" is a contraction of "abd" (servant or slave) and "al" ([of] the). If followed by a noun without an article (e.g., Abdul Qadir) this is acceptable. But, since "Alhazred" begins with "al," the article is repeated; therefore, it would never be used as an actual Arabic name. AbdelIrada ( talk) 14:27, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
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In the section "Hoaxes &c", please delete the repitition of the word "made" in this sentence: Despite its contents, the book's marketing focused heavily on the Lovecraft connection and made sensational claims made for the book's magical power. To give: Despite its contents, the book's marketing focused heavily on the Lovecraft connection and made sensational claims for the book's magical power.
Fwintle ( talk) 11:20, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
Earlier this year a Necronomicon in Hebrew was published in a limited edition of ~400 copies, and sold in a single store in Tel-Aviv. It is attributed to Abd al Hazred, and the rest of the details (translator's name, publisher's name, etc) not given.
I suspect the shop owner has written & published the book, but he plays the game and gives no further information.
I suggest this info be added to the page. If some proof is needed, e.g. photo of cover and a few pages, I'm willing to supply. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elle N Schmidtee ( talk • contribs) 18:20, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
I always thought the Necronomicon is an allusion to the Zohar, or Kabbalah in general. The Zohar contains stories about sorcerers, about magic in general. It is a book full of mysticism and the occult (in the literal sense of the word) 178.201.16.24 ( talk) 14:01, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
I see that the Evil Dead references were deleted from this page about three years ago, under the statement that they were covered in Cthulhu Mythos in popular culture. However, the Evil Dead is not part of a Lovecraftian mythology (hence the fact it doesn't actually appear in that spin-off article), nor is it too far-fetched to think that many people searching for Necronomicon may have discovered it through watching one of the films. I agree it shouldn't get too much attention in the article, but a prominent mention under the "in popular culture" section with the appropriate hyperlinking is reasonable here. Grandpallama ( talk) 18:57, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
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(Hmm, is that the start of an article?) -- Jerzy 19:50, 2003 Nov 13 (UTC)
`` and no reference to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evil_Dead! that needs editing! 124.148.32.167 ( talk) 01:56, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
This probably deserves a note: http://wiki.lspace.org/wiki/Necrotelicomnicon — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.36.4.129 ( talk) 23:51, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
I've removed the Nethack references from "possible derivations". If you look up the 'book of the dead' from within the game, this is the description:
Faustus: Come on Mephistopheles. What shall we do? Mephistopheles: Nay, I know not. We shall be cursed with bell, book, and candle. Faustus: How? Bell, book, and candle, candle, book, and bell, Forward and backward, to curse Faustus to hell. Anon you shall hear a hog grunt, a calf bleat, and an ass bray, Because it is Saint Peter's holy day. (Enter all the Friars to sing the dirge) [ Doctor Faustus and Other Plays, by Christopher Marlowe ]
The "book" here is the "Book of the Dead" in nethack. The name "Book of the Dead" probably was chosen from the Egyption & is not based on the Necronomicon. Certainly, when you read it, you do not go crazy!
--LWM
Nope. Exorcism
Double nope. Not exorcism. Excommunication. In the old days, this is how the Catholic Church declared you anathema in a "major" excommunication. The bell rang a death toll, the book (often a Bible) was solemnly closed, closing you out of the Word of God, and the candle was blown out, extinguishing the light of your soul.
"We separate him, together with his accomplices and abettors, from the precious body and blood of the Lord and from the society of all Christians; we exclude him from our Holy Mother, the Church in Heaven, and on earth; we declare him excommunicate and anathema; we judge him damned, with the Devil and his angels and all the reprobate, to eternal fire until he shall recover himself from the toils of the devil and return to amendment and to penitence."
Has nothing to do with the Necronomicon. WiseguyThreeOne ( talk) 02:05, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
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Please add the fact that The Necronomicon is mentioned in the Apple iOS game "The Simpsons -Tapped Out" whereby the character Mr Burns is tasked to read it. The player gains $175 and 45XP's after he has completed the 4hr task. Source Ali Foote Company EA Swiss Sarl Website 81.155.203.144 ( talk) 10:08, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
I'm not finding Azif anywhere within said dictionary. Is the source a dud? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.123.183.222 ( talk) 14:54, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
The entry here makes mention that the book itself is supposedly covered in multiple types of leather and has metal clasps. I believe the Oghma Infinium, found in the video game series The Elder Scrolls (at least in skyrim) may be meant to resemble the necronomicon since it is also a book of enormous power covered in leather swatches.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Tchaffin ( talk • contribs) 05:40, 27 November 2012
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There is a typo. The text "but who BATH seen the deep frozen city" should change to "but who HATH seen the deep frozen city" 143.115.159.54 ( talk) 21:42, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
Isn't the Necronomicon supposed to be bound in human skin? I don't see this mentioned anywhere in the article. Here's a google search showing this https://www.google.com/search?q=necronomicon+human+skin — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.97.255.148 ( talk) 08:24, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
The section titled "Sigil of the Gateway" is unsourced and is composed entirely of spurious attribution to Lovecraft's fiction fabricated by the editor who dumped it here. The symbol presented and the image file are from the Simon Necronomicon; it was the cover illustration of both the hardback and paperback editions. As such, it is a non-free graphic created by a graphic artist credited as "Khem Set Rising" for the original publication, and is not the editor's "own work" as claimed. The symbol does NOT appear in stories from the Cthulhu Mythos, and the descriptions of the "subsymbols", their names and their meaning are derived entirely from the Simon Necronomicon and do not appear anywhere else except in works derived from it. The section should be deleted from the article. It is fancruft, it provides false and misleading information, it cites no sources (because there are none which support the claims made in the section), and it utterly fails to distinguish fact from fiction. Canonblack ( talk) 00:45, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
The book has never truly been listed here. The Danish translated 1994 version that was never printed was put on order. The books ISBN listing is merely an ordering system malfunction on halt for something that never was.
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an historical figure who died in 1059
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a historical figure who died in 1059
as the /h/ is pronounced in both RP and GA (see [6]) and preferred usage is to not treat /h/ differently from other consonants (see the distinction between "a" and "an"). 75.88.42.89 ( talk) 03:28, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
It's another book written in 2015 Necronomicon: The Manuscript of the Dead by Antonis Antoniades ISBN 1614981396 and ISBN13: 9781614981398 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Selefa ( talk • contribs) 12:32, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
== Article is semi-protected, could someone add below to the "In popular culture" section?
I've been redirected to this page when I clicked Sigil of the Gateway but can't find it. What is the Sigil and what does it have to do with the Necronomicon? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mythostracker2017 ( talk • contribs) 09:35, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
al hazard isn't necessary a reference to place of birth it could be a surname in the Arabic sense — Preceding unsigned comment added by 45.246.51.106 ( talk) 07:27, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
This is a very minute and stupid detail but it bothers me to no end when I read it. In the popular culture section, the article states that the Binding of Isaac: Rebirth is a sequel to the original Binding of Isaac. This is false, as it is a remake instead. This is not a very important issue, but I just thought it should be corrected. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:2C6:4C00:5AFA:C81D:76EA:DF20:A025 ( talk) 04:57, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
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The Necronomicon is also an item in the video game Dota 2 [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.216.83.43 ( talk) 20:34, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
The necronomicon was in the real ghostbusters season 4 the collect call of the cathulhu. Jtferris ( talk) 16:52, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
The Necronomicon is also present in the comic book series, Innsmouth, by Megan James and published by Sink/Swim Press of Richmond, VA, USA. [2]
The Necronomicon inspired Swiss artist H. R. Giger to wite his compendium Necronomicon, which led film director Ridley Scott to hire him for the design of the Xenomorph in the Alien film. -- Juancpin ( talk) 17:50, 28 January 2018 (UTC) Juancpin
The necromonicon is also present in the "Call of Cthulhu" video game and project the player into the mind of someone else.
The Wandering Jew is in Arkham to help Miskatonic University prepare a modern English language translation of the Necronomicon in "An Arkham Halloween", reprinted in the October 30, 2017 issue of 'Bewildering Stories' and in the anthology ""Weird Thoughts"". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:2000:1600:4F49:7449:BAC2:41A2:20B8 ( talk) 19:34, 7 December 2019 (UTC)
The necronomicon was present within "Moons of madness", a video game mixing Mars exploration with Lovecraft. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:A03F:68F8:6300:9D7F:241C:B991:821F ( talk) 00:24, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
The Necronomicon influenced the name of the Bombinomicon, an in-game item and character in the video game Team Fortress 2 in the sense that its name is a portmanteau of the words Bomb and Necronomicon according to the game's wiki page [1] -- DarkNet Neko ( talk) 16:24, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
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Abdul Alhazred is only known for having been the fictional author of the Necronomicon. I could not find any reliable sources that discussed the character in any other context. Lovecraft's youthful role-playing can be mentioned in his own article. ― Susmuffin Talk 14:20, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
under section ‘origin’ last paragraph - “pseodonym” should be changed to recognized spelling of “pseudonym” and hyperlinked to wiki page: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudonym — Preceding unsigned comment added by Binaryx talk ( talk • contribs) 08:55, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
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i suggest adding Futaba Sakura into the references in pop culture section. Futaba Sakura is a fictional character from the game Persona 5 who's persona (kinda hard to explain, just think of it as a pokemon) is necronomicon [1] [2] Jjatr ( talk) 15:00, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
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There's a sourced statement at the end of Necronomicon#Origin that "the name of the book's supposed author, Abdul Alhazred, is not even a grammatically correct Arabic name". Wikipedia users have made similar claims at Talk:Abdul Alhazred#Al Hazred's true name and Talk:Necronomicon/Archive 1#Abdul Alhazred, Arabic grammar. But I found two articles on real people with such names: Abdul Al-Ghadi and Abdul Al Salam Al Hilal. Both are Yemeni. I don't know if that's a coincidence, or if this supposed error is accepted in Yemeni names. Even though the statement in the article is sourced, I question the utility of critiquing this fictional name. -- BDD ( talk) 15:18, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
Huh? I’m not proposing adding a claim to the article that the name is grammatically correct. My concern is that the existing statement, though verifiable, could be wrong, and doesn’t add much to the article anyway. BDD ( talk) 20:39, 22 September 2021 (UTC)