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I wikified/copyedited this a bit but someone with more knowledge on the subject could expand it. Rasa 14:57, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
the conflict of interests, and the campagn to remove mine warning signs are known and documented. do not remove them, especially with no discussion! Mostssa 08:36, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
Regarding this vandalism that last a way to long...
The reference given was web address http://www.business-magazin.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1570&Itemid=2 so let me translate some text form there:
Croatian:
Državni tajnik za turizam Zdenko Mičić upozorio je na negativnu kampanju Hrvatske kroz jumbo plakate 'Pazi mine', koji su trenutno postavljeni u svim eminentnim trajektnim lukama i na mjestima gdje opasnost od mina ne postoji te je najavio akciju skidanja plakata do početka turističke sezone.
English:
Croatian tourism minister Zdenko Mičić warned on campaign of jumbo - posters regarding mines that can be seen in all ports and in all various places where there are no rwal threat of mines. He announced removing posters before the tourist season.
That's all. So much about "powerful Croatian tourism industry lobby".
To say that tourist industry is at odds with the minefield awareness programme is proposterous because just one dead tourist could ruin a 15- years long posotove development.
I live in Split, Croatia, I'v lived in Split throught entire war and I've never in my entire life seen someone killed in a war. I've never seen a landmine.
It is stupid to put mines warning 100 km from minefield because it just doesn't help anyone. Tourists already knows that we had war here, and they know that mines are somewhere in Croatia, so big mine warning sign on completely wrong place is of no use.
All mine fields are in hinterland, far from hotels and beaches, and they are properly marked and outside of tourist areas. It is important to know that not one tourist died from mines in Croatia after the war, aldo we didn't have stupid jumbo posters all over the place. So, why put it now, and in wrong places?
All this conspiracy theory campaign is led by few people that just hate to see Croatia gainig popularity among tourists. -- Ante Perkovic 20:14, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
I'm sorry, I was under the impression that this article was about minefields in Croatia, not about Neonazism or something else? -- Elephantus 20:48, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
Since I have been asked to comment, I think that you cannot delete the information just like that. It is against wikipedia policies, since the reference is provided. Things need to be NPOV-ed, not removed. If everyone followed such rules it would be much less strife.
As for the sources provided, they do show: that minister of tourism acted to remove the warning signs. that such signs posted on places like ports were a concern in conection with tourist season. No conspiracy is implied in the source, but it is not claimed in the article that there was a conspiracy either. The warning signs in public places were not there to warn tourists, but citizens who are most of the victims. So, I dont see what is the problem here - maybe in formulation, but you people do not change formulation, you just remove it. Thats not OK. Maayaa 12:48, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
Although this is an exercise in futility, I will state the obvious. As it is clear from the picture that is kept being inserted, these are NOT mine warning signs, but BILLBOARDS otherwiese carrying commercials. MINE WARNING SIGNS ARE NOT REMOVED. Besides they are placed to indicate the areas in their immediate vicinity suspected of being mined! EurowikiJ 13:14, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
I see that Serpen reverted my text without even reading it.
I demand the explanation of deletion of following text (see bolded text):
If Serpen and his companions will delete ALL future contribution, ten we will have endless edit-war.
-- Ante Perkovic 09:09, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
The link used as reference under (9) says the following in Croatian:
I didn't want to engage in endless edit war, so I made 2 changes, 1 by 1. I even didn't delete the part that I found highly POV, but I just put { {fact} } sign for now. I'm open to discussion about "powerfull lobby".
-- Ante Perkovic 03:54, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
Are you saying that the Croatian Tourism Industry doesn't have a strong lobby? -- serbiana - talk 03:57, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
The first paragraph of the Demining Section reads:
"The Croatian government has dedicated itself to eradicating landmines (demining) as well as allowing and assisting a network of international mine clearance programs. It has spent substantial amounts of money on demining work, $24.9 in 1999 alone."
Surely this is an incorrect figure, my suspicion is that the figure is meant to be "$24.9 million", but as I do not have access to the source and due to the extensive vandalism and POV pushing that seems to have occured on this page, I cannot verify this. Can someone who knows what the true figure is please correct it or preferably, update the figure to one from a more recent year. Thanks. Canderra 15:33, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
I added a reference to back up the comment on the landmines warning in Travel Guides. It is from the 2000 edition of The Rough Guide to Croatia. This is possibly out of date. So if anyone has got access to the most recent edition, please correct it if appropiate. Regards, E Asterion u talking to me? 14:21, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
I explained the whole thing here: Talk:Tourism_in_Croatia#The_Dutch_tourist. -- Zmaj 06:49, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
"The Croatian 'bomb bees' that can sniff out landmines from THREE MILES away", by the Daily Mail. Two interesting things in it: 1) using trained bees to locate landmines, 2) some paragraphs clearly "inspired" by this very article in Wikipedia. GregorB ( talk) 21:15, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
surprisingly precise estimation I have to say — Preceding unsigned comment added by K0zka ( talk • contribs) 08:32, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
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