Where do I start? Scott 00:29:01, 2005-09-13 (UTC)
actual test dates w/ additional info such as bomb size, location, and time can be found @ http://www.ga.gov.au/oracle/nukexp_query.html i will try to add some of this info when i can. Somedude 07:27, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
ummm ... dude ... no it's not!
in just my first 30 seconds of looking at the australian geoscience site, i saw that the very first grapple test on 15 may 1957 was missing. kind of casts doubt on their reliability ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Avaiki ( talk • contribs) 11:30, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
... ooops scratch that .. had the order wrong - d'oh! but curious as to why no mention of yields - makes it less than complete as a record. avaiki 11:35, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
United States was powerful and they could test their bombs anywhere they wanted in the West in the early years. Why did United States test their atomic weapons on their land and in the Pacific Ocean, and not in Africa? 216.13.88.86 22:46, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
Please write in the list all nuclear tests with a yield over 10 Mt. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.46.209.198 ( talk) 23:54, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
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In order to avoid having the same discussion on 2 articles, please see my post on the "Nuclear testing" article's talk page at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Nuclear_testing#Need_reliable_sources_for_number_of_nuclear_explosions
Neither this article nor that one cite reliable sources. Analoguni ( talk) 22:03, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
Seeking information on the number of atmospheric tests - Brookings Institution indicates 533 total http://www.brookings.edu/projects/archive/nucweapons/tests.aspx but because calcs from 1998 may not include recent France tests. User:rpauli — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rpauli ( talk • contribs) 02:48, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
No-one has a clue who did it or even if it did occur. It was an old satellite, past its use by date. I was reading an article, a few days ago which made a good point that if it did occur the only logic candidate was France. I am not quoting it as I do not think it was of the standard required here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Reargun ( talk • contribs) 13:41, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
Why does it make no sense? A thousand km or so away there was a French nuclear testing ground, Vela could not be able to identify where the blast happened so there is much speculation that if the Vela Incident did occur that it was either a detonation of a French neutron or small nuclear bomb. Reargun ( talk)
I was wondering about the total heat produced by the hundreds of known tests. This is in light of global warming, which is said to be produced by too many cars in China & New Delhi. Which produces more heat? A 1 kt burst, or a million cars running for an hour? Where did the heat go? And why, in the early 1970's, at the height of nuclear tests, were scientists worried about planetary cooling? Dave of Maryland ( talk) 23:31, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
Let's see: http://www.iss.niiit.ru/ksenia/catal_nt/intr.htm says that there have been 520 Mtons of testing done with nuclear weapons of all kinds. http://www.unitconversion.org/energy/megatons-to-joules-conversion.html converts that into about 2.2e+18 joules (with the assumption that all those megatons stay right here keeping the home fires burning; we'll claim to have those few photons that hightailed it for the gamma quadrant). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_energy tells us that there are 174 petawatts incoming from the sun (1.74e17, thanks to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peta-) and that's 1.74e32 joules/sec (thanks again to http://www.unitconversion.org/power/petawatts-to-joules-per-second-conversion.html). Our 520 Mtons of testing would supply about 4e-19 secs of the total insolation of Earth.
The world burns 5e17 BTUs per year ( http://www.eia.doe.gov/oiaf/ieo/world.html), which is 5.3e20 joules per year ( http://www.unitconversion.org/energy/joules-to-btus-it-conversion.html; love those folks) or 1.6e13 joules/sec. In terms of our energy use, all the atomic testing ever amounts to about 38 hours of the total energy burning done by man.
Google/wikipedia/MSCalc is your friend. SkoreKeep ( talk) 22:25, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
∑ Mt of all tests? 46.115.10.220 ( talk) 23:29, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
"Because it was a cold test,[13] the Pakistan Atomic Scientists Foundation (PASF) estimated the yield at no more than around 12–25 kilotonnes.[12]" Now, that is some subcritical test. According to the definition of a cold test on the referenced page, a cold test is a test of a nuclear bomb without the nuclear material in it. No explosion not involving nuclear has ever gotten above about 7 kT (that was the N1 moon rocket blowing up at Baikonur), so either their wrong about the yield, or they're wrong about it being a "cold test", or they invented some hellacious HE and will rule the world soon. It is likely they mean 12-25 tonnes, which is still quite large for a primary HE. In any case, I could not find the quoted yield in the references, so I think the figure needs to be trimmed...err, pruned. SkoreKeep ( talk) 09:56, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
This page is an odd one. It is just a collection of highlights, perhaps just trivia, concerning nuclear testing. I'm not clear on its reason for existence; perhaps what it needs is just a change of title, something like "Highlights in Nuclear Testing". SkoreKeep ( talk) 17:40, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
The Worldwide nuclear testing counts and summary article is a short article that, in addition to having an unencyclopedic title, only covers things that should be covered on List of nuclear weapons tests anyway. As such, I recommend that Worldwide nuclear testing counts and summary be merged here. Neelix ( talk) 18:14, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
The table on this page and the contents of any nuclear tests infobox are generated from a database of nuclear testing which I have maintained and researched for a number of years. The table is automatically generated from that database by a Visual Basic script, and then has, periodically, been inserted into the page manually. I began doing this in October of 2013.
Recently a user complained (politely) to me about the practice. It seems to him that it removes control from all editors besides myself over the content. He believes it is tantamount to WP:OWNED of the pages affected. He also points out that there is no public mention of the fact anywhere on wikipedia, and that is true, through my own oversight, until now.
There was no intent that the pages affected should be owned by myself; in fact, one of my reasons for building these pages was to solicit (in the wikipedia way) criticism and corrections to the data, perhaps additional references that I had been unable to locate. I have regenerated the tables twice in the days since they were originally placed. Each time I did so, I performed a diff between the current version and the version that I put up in the previous cycle; all corrections were then either entered into the database or corrected in the programming, as appropriate. As may be guessed, the programming corrections were frequent to start out as suggestions about the table formatting were raised, and most incorporated. I have not made judgements on the "usefulness" of corrections; all have been incorporated, or I have communicated directly with the editor to settle the matter. In fact it was in pursuing such a correction that this matter came up.
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SkoreKeep ( talk) 01:05, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
The text now reads: "As of 1993, worldwide, 520 atmospheric nuclear explosions (including 8 underwater) have been conducted with a total yield of 545 megaton (Mt): 217 Mt from fission and 328 Mt from fusion, while the estimated number of underground nuclear tests conducted in the period from 1957 to 1992 is 1,352 explosions with a total yield of 90 Mt." It is unclear if 328 Mt is the total yield of all fusion type bombs or if it is only the yield of the fusion reactions when the fission yields have been subtracted. The reson why I bring this up is that hydrogen/fusion bombs often get the majority of their energy from fission reactions and not from the actual fusion reaction. If I remember correctly the neutrons and x-ray from the fusion reaction helps in boosting the initial fission reaction to such a degree that the fission energy often exceeds the fusion energy.
Hence, "328 Mt from fusion" is not the same as "328 Mt from fusion type bombs", since only ca 50 % of the energy in these bombs would come from the actual fusion reaction.
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Comes 78.148.122.201 to change the number of Soviet tests from 727 to 981, saying "i changed the number of nuclear tests carried out by the soviet as they were old dates". The number chosen is the number of devices used in the 728 tests performed; many of the tests fired multiple devices simultaneously in a local area; they are called salvo tests, as explained at the top on this same page. All the nuclear pages in wikipedia count tests, not devices (as do all of the supporting documents I'm aware of, though they mention the device count). I reverted it before I understood where the number came from for a lack of reference, which was true. SkoreKeep ( talk) 21:35, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
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Comes 82.208.127.202 wanting to change the yield of the Tsar Bomba from 50 to 58 MT. This has been argued multiple time before (see Talk archives) and the result is that US seismic measurements made of the bomb concluded 57 MT. After the collapse of the USSR, the papers written by the Sarov scientists listed the yield at 50 MT, and thereafter that figure has been used, as they were on the site making the best measurements. Although his edit in Tsar Bomba mentioned "all Russian writings" since 1992, there is no references named. In this article, he references the Russian web page for Tsar Bomba, which is insufficient. I have reverted this page (for the second time) and have placed a CN on the Tsar Bomba page which I will act on in a week.
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Comes 148.253.221.44 who wants to change the number of British tests from 64 to 21, and remove the note about the zero-yield Vixen tests (safety/dispersion tests) being added in. The precedent set when compiling the US tests was that the number was to include the safety tests (usually but not always zero yield). The rationale is that if such a test is not zero nuclear yield, which indicates it failed in its goals to some extent, and then it is a real nuclear test, and to include just some of the US safety tests would be misleading. So all have been included, even in the official US test listings. By extension, then, safety tests are included for all countries if known. The stated purpose of the Vixen series was safety and dispersion testing. I have reverted the edit. SkoreKeep ( talk) 22:58, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
I think the introduction could be improved a lot. It starts with a long technical definition of something hardly relevant for a list. I would have expected a brief overview over nuclear weapon tests and the content of this article: Which types of tests are there, how many in total, by which countries, a rough overview over the timescale and so on. -- mfb ( talk) 13:12, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
Notes on many/all of the "List of nuclear weapons tests of {x}" pages linked from this article (and discussed above as being programmatically generated from a database) have a couple of issues:
- The common misspelling "timezone" appears. - The note ends in "from here:" as if to reference some text or link that doesn't actually appear.
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My inclination is that both of these issues could be resolved with no loss of information by just deleting the text "All historical timezone data are derived from here:". But, before I make such sweeping fixes, and in case it wouldn't matter because the errors will just be re-introduced by the table generation again, I thought I'd reach out for additional eyes and thoughts.
Should I undertake the task of fixing these notes? Or should the script that generates them be fixed and re-executed? 3Todd ( talk) 18:26, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
> Very few unknown tests are suspected at this time, the Vela Incident being the most prominent. Israel is the only country suspected of having nuclear weapons but not known to have ever tested any.
Such text is yet another proof that USA is merely the 51st member state of Zion and Wikipedia is a loyal minion... It has been well-known for over a decade that Vela Incident was a joint 3kT neutron bomb test conducted by the apartheid and the zionist regimes, post-apartheid South African Deputy Foreign Minister Aziz Pahad confirmed that and the 550 tons raw uranium swap deal. 84.236.83.221 ( talk) 15:38, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
Can we just have one list please? I don't want the tests split by country. Just list every test, in chronological order. Too much commentary also. 172.56.81.106 ( talk) 18:52, 20 October 2022 (UTC)