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...as opposed to what? We already have a
list of demons, and this distinction between a "real" and "fictional" demon doesn't make any sense to me. Could someone explain why we need both articles? Thanks! -FlyingToaster 09:18, 11 November 2008 (UTC)reply
1. The "longstanding policy on
talk:list of demons" doesn't exist (well, that talk page doesn't exist). 2. This really should be titled "list of demons in fiction", not "fictional demons". All demons are "fictional".
2crudedudes (
talk) 16:26, 17 July 2014 (UTC)reply
I don't usually edit wikipedia or even care much about how stuff is presented here, but I do think this is an important point. I went to this page to see if there was a discussion about the naming of the page (which does seem wrong), but "list of demons in fiction" does not get around the problem, since the demons on the other list all appear in some fiction as well (or you would not have known about them). How about "list of demons in mythology" vs "list of demons in entertainment"? — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
85.224.242.207 (
talk) 15:02, 27 September 2019 (UTC)reply
Cross-overs
...Lilith in both lists. She is a theological demon that was featured in some episodes of a fictional show. If she is included in both lists it stands to reason so should Satan/Lucifer etc because there have been many fictional books/movies/tv shows that feature him, but he is also a theological demon. I'm sure there are many other demons that could make this logical cross-over between lists, but I don't think they should, otherwise there is no point in separating the lists.
Butterflysting (
talk) 02:19, 9 March 2009 (UTC)reply
I don't see that it would be a problem if some names appear in both lists, if they qualify as such. In particular
Lilith and
Lilith (Supernatural) are the same name but they link to two different articles. I'm sure at some point we will find a name that has been used by more than one fiction writer, when that happens we need to make sure the links reflect that. As for satan being in works of fiction, well yes but so is God. This list is for demons invented or modified for works of fiction not for theological demons who are also referred to in works of fiction. WereSpielChequers 10:31, 9 March 2009 (UTC)reply
Some buffyverse ones but question probably applies to others
How should it work with characters that are half demon etc.Doyle is here and he is half demon. So what about Connor human but inluded in demon categories and cordelia born human but turned into part demon later on. Any thoughts?
RafikiSykes (
talk) 20:43, 14 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Quite frankly there's not much of a clear-cut definition for what would go in this list, but I'll give you my opinion anyway. I would think half-demons could go on the list without much controversy. As for Connor, from what I remember he was fully human despite being the spawn of two vampires (right?), so I don't see why he'd make the list. And I remember Cordelia receiving that "gift" or whatever that gave her premonitions and somehow gave birth to a near-deity, but I don't think any of that made her suddenly a demon, unless there's something else I'm completely forgetting. It's been a long time since I last watched Angel.
-- Fyrefly (
talk) 21:19, 14 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Connor was human but inherited the demonic strength/traits without the usual weakneses and the buffy project people have used the demon classifications for him so its a little confusing. Cordelia was made part demon later on as her human body couldnt handle the premonitions.
quote from cordelia article - "The episode "Birthday" saw her being offered the chance to live a life where she never met Angel, but her inner desire to help others sees her sacrifice this life and her humanity to become a half-demon who can better withstand the visions she carries."
quote from connor article "Connor possesses the typical abilities of a Buffyverse vampire (minus the vampire fangs): superhuman strength, speed, durability, recuperation, and heightened senses; without their typical weaknesses (sunlight, crosses, holy water). He has been bested in battle by both Faith and Angel; however, he is stronger than most vampires and several forms of demons."
From what you said Cordelia seems ok to add Cordelia but I'm fine leaving Connor for now as he seems rather hard to classify.
RafikiSykes (
talk) 21:51, 14 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Yeah, feel free to use your own discretion.
-- Fyrefly (
talk) 21:54, 14 September 2011 (UTC)reply
mark {{clarification needed}} where the entry is meager and there is no bluelink
Every listing might now include (a) one setof parentheses; (b) two bluelinks, one bluelink, or {clarification needed}. That's approximately true, I won't check it.
Where I needed to follow a link in order to be confident about completing those steps (eg, provide author firstname), I may have added something that I learned (eg, "novel series"). But I didn't really do any content research for its own sake, only added a little info by accident in the course of re-arranging it.
I did all this in one revision, and "Compare versions" works well everywhere except a few entries that begin at 'Hastur' (because I didn't otherwise add or cut any entries, or any blank lines).
Someone who knows many of these demons may usefully take a look at that revision (bold). Or someone who knows video and role-playing games --
P64 (
talk) 19:39, 18 May 2012 (UTC)reply
List of theological demons carries a later version of "my" preface for this and some related articles (prompted by another editor's revert of my expansion).
Is there some standard for list articles that require them to be in a list? It seems to me that this article might do better in a tabular format. There are a number of series, for instance, that have large numbers of demons. A sort-able table could be sorted alphabetically as it currently is or sorted by source. This may make editing more difficult and loading a table of that size may make page loading slower. I could see those as objections. Any thoughts? --
Jamal WillsT/
C 22:10, 17 August 2012 (UTC)reply
a funny page...
I think this would not survive in the German Wikipedia more than one hour. But I like these corners in the English Wikipedia! If these lists would not exist, I would have to create my own lists.
By the way: where are the Dadedra from Oblivion (Game)? I think they are demons too in the sense of this article.
It should be mentioned, that many of the demons in video games and/or in films come from novels and plays, for instance The Dybbuk (a demon in a Yiddish theatre play). To do these lists you will have to have the same knowledge and education as in any other corner (mountains, swamps and so on, not litearally) of Wikipedia! --
13Peewit (
talk) 19:07, 5 October 2012 (UTC)reply
List of devils
Satan, lucifer, the devil, etc. Should this be a distinct list?
Anna Frodesiak (
talk) 08:48, 31 August 2015 (UTC)reply
No objections from me. Mostly on account of apathy. :)
Cyphoidbomb (
talk) 14:34, 10 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Fair enough, my friend. I think I'll just make the move. Nobody has even had a comment at all since Aug 31 and this is pretty uncontroversial. Maybe
List of fictional devils and demons since the devil is the big tamale and demons are sort of employees.
Anna Frodesiak (
talk) 23:17, 10 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Ah, hell! I just googled "devil in fiction" and got
Devil in popular culture. It is not linked anywhere in this article, which is should be. I'm undoing the move.
Anna Frodesiak (
talk) 23:27, 10 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Hatnotes or see alsos
These two should be linked together either with hatnotes or see also entries. You decide which.