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He's never explicitly said that he was homosexual, although he is popularly purported to be so. -- Victor 03:32, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
Oh he is gay, darling...when he was asked about it in an interview..he said "Lo que se ve, no se pregunta"..[[[User:Raniya|Raniya]] 00:44, 26 March 2006 (UTC)]
I was never comfortable with some of the interpretations from Spanish to English on WikiPedia.
Said Juan Gabriel when he was interrogated about his sexuality:
"Lo que se ve no se pregunta mijo. Yo no tengo por qué decirle cosas que a usted, como a muchas otras personas, no les interesa, yo pienso que soy un artista que he dado mucho con mis canciones."
It is translated in this article as:
"You don't ask about what you see, son. I don't have to tell you nor others, because it's none of your business. I feel that I am an artist who has contributed too much with his songs."
However, I think a more accurate interpretation would be:
"What is obvious, isn't questioned, hon. I have no obligation to tell you about matters that, like so many other people, aren't your concern. I think that I'm an artist that has given quite a lot with my songs. (...and don't need to explain myself to anybody.)
Juan Gabriel has decided that his music, not his sexuality, defines who he is. He has decided to make his career about singing, writing, composing and performing, not promoting the gay agenda, and I think his decision should be respected.
He spoke well for himself. His sexuality is nobody else's business, and interrogators need to clam up. I can't see how Juan Gabriel being gay would change the quality of his music either way. 210.133.127.14 ( talk) 03:10, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
Some of the song titles I saw in the article were also the names of telenovelas. I'm guessing he also wrote novela theme songs?—Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.245.245.239 ( talk • contribs)
I think it´s clear he´s the most succesful commercial musician in Mexican music history. Even Pedro Infante, Luis Miguel and other idols don´t have the "cross over" popularity of Juan Gabriel.
He´s a commercial singer-songwriter because there are "art" singer-songwriters as Fernando Delgadillo, David Haro, Lila Downs and others.
-- Posmodern2000 01:31, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
Eat your heart out, Michael... 210.133.127.14 ( talk) 03:13, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
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Since the article is locked, I suggest some changes, since I speak Spanish I know what the song titles mean, and how wrong some translations are:
since pedirte(ask you) is referred to a she in a close personal form, also "Ask for Forgiveness" is "pedir perdón" without a referral subject.
The article's tense often does not agree. It frequently switches between past and present, but should be written in past. I would fix it... but I'm lazy. The burden now falls on you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.207.156.155 ( talk) 23:33, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
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There haven been number of edits that mentions he has deceased, but there are no official statements from either his family or record label that has confirmed that he has died. Many sources that are claiming that he has died all cite a single reporter (Joaquín López Dóriga from Televisa). Please do not repost that he has died unless his family or record label has confirmed it. His death has been confirmed by a coroner and the Mexican president. Disregard the previous message.
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Sociedad de Autores y Compositores de México has confirmed this which is like the union of mexican composers https://www.facebook.com/SACMoficial/. -- Jeff vader ( talk) 22:12, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
http://www.univision.com/musica/muere-el-cantante-y-compositor-mexicano-juan-gabriel in here it says that the family has confirmed the death-- Jeff vader ( talk) 22:13, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
@ Tbhotch:, has new come from the Mexican media? Erick ( talk) 22:17, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
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Please change "(born January 7, 1950)" to "(born January 7, 1950; died August 28,2016)"
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Juan Gabriel passed away in California on August 28, 2016.
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It has been confirmed by CNN, and by the Mexican president dont know if that counts but here it is CNN Report . -- Jeff vader ( talk) 22:07, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
Leila Cobo from Billboard has confirmed it. I have updated the blp banner. Erick ( talk) 22:29, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
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Please update Juan Gabriel's date of decease. He died on August the 28th, 2016.
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Please add a Died: August 28, 2016 ( Age 66) also add to years active 1976 - 2016
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Disregard this request, as I just noticed the 2 prior requests for the same update.
Hi, just wanted to let you know that this singer just passed away (August 28th, 2016)in Santa Monica. Cause is to be determined, but they suspect a heart attack.
Frankbosq ( talk) 22:30, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
Can someone spell barriers in the first paragraph correctly. Is it really that hard??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.216.158.54 ( talk) 00:20, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
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Just a reminder Grammy Award for Best Latin Pop Album, Grammy Award for Best Mexican/Mexican-American Album, Latin Grammy Award for Best Singer-Songwriter Album, Latin Grammy Award for Best Ranchero/Mariachi Album. © Tbhotch ™ ( en-2.5). 23:13, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
President Obama has released a statement about his death please include in the legacy and impact section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.77.217.154 ( talk) 01:16, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
Why is his honorary title in the lead bold and italicized? It is not a redirect nor a published consumer product, is there a MoS that states titles in the lead must be bolded like the way it is now? – jona ✉ 12:26, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
§ Personal life and death begins "Juan Gabriel was never married." But while I was searching for evidence in the cited source that the mother of his first four children (acknowledged though illegitimate) was named Guadalupe, I watched a couple of the videos included in reference LatinTimes. [1] I'm nowhere near fluent in Spanish, but I figured I'd be able to recognize the name if I heard it, and I didn't, so I tagged the name {{ citation needed }}.
What I did hear was one of the two women in the conversation say, in describing the communications and relations between father and son, "su hijo legítimo" ("his legitimate son"), stressing the adjective emphatically with her voice and a raised index finger. [2]
Can someone fluent in Spanish please check that video?
I have linked to this section from Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mexico § Fluent listener needed.
Please {{Ping}} me to discuss. -- Thnidu ( talk) 04:24, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
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hello a question, why not put the data found in Wikipedia in Spanish? because here in English I see too many incongruities, if you want I can help improve the spelling and add data with its respective reference source. IDRR12345 ( talk) 14:21, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
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if you remove the list of songs from this sentence
Among his most recognized penned songs are "Amor eterno", "Querida", "Yo no nací para amar", " Hasta que te conocí", "El Noa Noa", " No tengo dinero", " Abrázame muy fuerte", "Te lo pido por favor", "En esta primavera", "Pero qué necesidad", "Te sigo amando", "Siempre en mi mente", " De mí enamórate", and "Lo pasado, pasado", among others; all of them, performed by him and many other artists.
then you get "among his most recognized penned songs are [list of songs] among others; all of them, performed by him and many other artists." which doesn't make sense and uses the word among twice 2601:647:400:B7A0:0:0:0:171E ( talk) 09:07, 4 October 2022 (UTC)