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Does anyone else dislike the image of the grey? I don't think it represents greys very well. They're usually depicted with far skinnier bodies and minimalistic/flatter facial features.
I remember reading somewhere that aliens with features resembling how the Greys have been described appeared in a sci-fi movie in the 1950s, which would make it, not Close Encounters, arguably the first movie to include them. I can't remember the title of the movie, however. — Gwalla | Talk 00:59, 28 Aug 2004 (UTC)
(User) I believe that this article is compelling, but if you pay close attention, most things are in a "just if so" tone. This is from the use of words such as alleged.
Why don't you talk about the Betty and Barney Hill incident?
I've moved the section on Irkens into fictional apperances. To the best of my knowledge, Invader Zim is considered to be fictional. I've also copyedited the text, and removed the wording that they also have a written language that can be translated into English, but appears difficult to read untranslated, as this appears tangential to the main article. -- PJF (talk) 21:59, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Just to add to this, the "Irken" hierarchy is based on height, so the taller you are, the more prominent you are in Irken society - hence the "tall ones" being in charge (sorry, I’ve watched too much Zim instead of actually doing something constructive, much like I’m doing now :P ). So whilst most Irkens are short, you will note that those who have the best jobs (such as pilots, invaders, leaders of the “Big… spaceship… gang”, etc) are relatively quite taller compared to the lowly soldiers
I've removed the section on Irkens - they're clearly not Greys and there's plenty of information about them elsewhere. -Craig
I have searched and searched and searched Wikipedia, yet it doesn't seem to have one reference anywhere to the infamous Alien Autopsy video or the alledged Alien Interview video. They are not even mentioned in this article about Greys. I'm not really a UFO/Alien buff myself, can someone start articles on these ? Seems an enormous glaring omission to me and there must be a lot of enthusiasts who would have a lot to say on these two
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Why is it that the Greys - or any aliens for that matter - never seem to wear clothes? If they're part of a military force, they should surely wear uniforms to denote rank? Interesting how aliens are immune to fashion and the cold, but also seem able to live without shoes, pockets, and have no qualms about walking naked around their spaceships...
that website is ludicrous, it reads as if it's either been written by a four-year-old or by a drunk.
The first and most famous Alien abduction to hit the mainstream media was the Hill abduction. They described the aliens ad being dressed in German style military uniforms. The whole nudity thing is from popular culture. Shows like taken have nude aliens. Alien abduction reports have fully dressed aliens in them in lab coats or uniforms. In Europe, there are many many reports of human like aliens who wear jumpsuits. - perfectblue 20:01, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
I think the Greys, being not clearly fictional, should not be classified as "fictional" but as possibly real or possibly fictional. -- Greys are generally accepted as being fictional, it should be recorded as such. --Craig
-- Hmm. Not so sure about that, Craig. According to this CNN poll, 65% of Americans believe a UFO crashed in Roswell, NM, and 80% of Americans believe the government is hiding the fact that it knows of the existence of aliens. Furthermore, almost one in 10 claim to have have personally seen a UFO. http://www.cnn.com/US/9706/15/ufo.poll/
Doesn't sound like anything's "generally accepted" as fictional. That may be your opinion, but your opinion isn't everyone else's, and shouldn't be extrapolated as such -- or "recorded as such."
-- Nice use of the fallacious appeal to belief. Just because a majority of Americans believe something is true doesn't make it so. Americans believe all sorts of fictional, mythical things. Check out http://quinnell.us/society/annoyances/stupid.html.
Greys are considered fictional because we have little to no solid, scientific evidence that supports their existence. Just like angels are considered fictional because, again, we have little to no solid, scientific evidence that they exist. Of course, one could argue that this evidence is being concealed by the government(s), but if that's the case, we still have no evidence that can be analyzed and scrutinized by the general public, i.e. the truth of greys is taken on faith.
Eye witness accounts, "artifacts," and unsubstantiated texts don't count. We have tons of artifacts, personal accounts, and texts that would indicate that the Greek gods of Mount Olympus were/are real, yet no one today believes them to be real.
And for the record, I do believe something anomolous crashed in Roswell, and I have also, personally, seen what I could only describe as a UFO. But as to the indisputable proof that greys exist -- I'm sorry, no one's seen it, no one's delivered it. -- Randy
This page covers aliens on TV and in comic books as well as aliens in alien abduction reports. It covers both "fact" and fiction. - perfectblue 20:02, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
The following image link has been removed because it is dead.
Grey's are real because they come from the sky.
Ok, I'll be nitpicky here and say that saying 'Scientology mythology' denotes a little bit of npov. First person to disagree gets to remove this comment and forget that I ever said anything.
• Grays live on a red planet witch is the size of the Moon or of the Mercury or below.
(It does not rotate around the sun because the rotation is necessary to compensate gravity only in lowwer density order levels; it also is no moon of any other planet nor has any moons itself)
• The planet exists 1 energy level up from ours or at the 4-th density.
(It might also exist in our energy level)
• The planet is poulated 2 frequency levels up from ours or at the 5-th density. • Their society is ruled by less than dozen elders. • They have technology. Despite that they live in very primitive 1 story huts. • The planet has no vegetation altough it once existed there. • Distance from the Sun is multiple (probably 13 times) of that of Jupiter .
• • Dude, you are so high...
• • Dude he must totally be high
The grays seen in 5-th density are actually white. The gray apparence of Greys is due the fact that when seen from 5-th density they appare to be gray because they stay on earth a bit off/below the exact energy level and thus seem darker and fuzzy. (it is quite likely that the encounters with Grays must be OOB or out of time (out of our energy level) experiences (in such experiences a man sleeps or daydreams some seconds and less here while when his/her conscious returns it has experience of several hours and more))
5th density? I don't think that word means what you think it means.
"In the video game Deus Ex they appear as animal like creatures that attack the player with radiation. They are theorised within the game possibly to be mutants created by the Versa Life Company." I think this is a spoiler because it spoiled my Deus Ex playing experience (I was playing DX at a time). I think there are more spoilers in "Appearances in fiction" section. Do you think there should be spoiler warning?
It's been documented that a feeling of pressure on the chest and the inability to move are common symptoms among those who believe that they were 'abducted' by aliens. However; these are also a symptoms among those with Sleep Paralysis. Sleep Paralysis is a condition in which the body is temporarily paralyzed after waking, yet the persons mind is fully aware. This is closely related to REM sleep, the period in which most dreaming takes place. This can cause the person to see imagined images among their true surroundings.
So, simply put, SP is a state in which a person is unable to move, and highly hallicinatory. Doesn't this sound like a reasonable cause for supposed abductions?
Guys, this article is ridiculous. Cleaning up is no longer the term for it--it needs to be dissected (ha!) and pieced back together into a semblance of something vaguely similar to an encyclopedia article.
Wikipedia is not the place for conjecture about what the Greys might be like if they exist, or to engage in hypotheticals about possible technology that they may or may not have, should they exist, but we're not saying they do exist.
-- Kuronekoyama 05:48, 23 September 2006 (UTC) this is not about conjecture : this is about documenting a topic... why not ? just documenting this thing, fiction or not will leave a trace about it : don't just assume that things need to be proven, serious, divisible by 1 to be part of an encyclopedia.
perfectblue 11:18, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
I've rmeoved the following as it comes from a suspect source that is possible fiction claiming to be fact, and replaced it with a general acedemic source,
This is VERY messy, so I've removed it from the page.
Martin Kottmeyer claims [2] that the origin of the contemporary appearance of Greys comes from the mask of the Bifrost alien (designed by Wah Ming Chang) from the " Bellero Shield" episode of the 1960s sci-fi TV-series " The Outer Limits". Not long after the episode's debut on February 10, 1964, according to the contactee reports, Greys seemed to suddenly acquire most of their characteristic features. Although there are some differences, it should be remembered that "bug-eyed" aliens were a staple of space opera for decades prior to the allegedly genuine reports of contactees and alien abduction experiencers citation needed. This explanation also notes that as time passed, the stories of Greys grew more and more outlandish. The eyes of Greys (in some reports also their heads) were growing larger until they reached their current two-times-larger state; this is similar to developments in the cyberpunk science fiction genre and specifically with Japanese anime of that genre.
Is there a copy right for grays or can you use this alien any way you want?
Maybe it should be noted that similar being have been recorded before the 1890 date? The classic depiction of a goblin seems a similar description to that of Greys and Goblins have been recorded far before the 1890s.
The first line says that Greys are also known as "Roswell" aliens, and "Roswell" provides a link to Roswell, New Mexico. On the Roswell page it only has a link to the UFO incident. Should this link link to the Roswell incident? I believe so. Yelling Bird 23:07, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
I found the mention of Dr. Steven Novella's 2001 article interesting, and just for the sake of information, I wanted to take a chance to point out that there are other researchers who share the same view. For instance, in 1997 I reached the same conclusions in an article about the grey alien as an archetipe of the intelligent being that was published nationally and received some attention and praise. In particular, I received a reply in which I was informed about the works of two other researchers who reached similar conclusions. I suppose I could retrieve their names (which I do not recall at the moment) and some bibliographical information, if needed. Hroswith 18:24, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
This article should probably be titled Grey (alien) or Gray (alien) since the normal style is to have the title be singular. Right? — brighterorange ( talk) 21:22, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
82.23.191.76greys do exist - have seen them close to hand 82.23.191.76 —Preceding comment was added at 03:36, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
I once say George Bush turn into a lizard, but I might have been high at the time..... or maybe I was high when I saw him not being a lizard? perfectblue 20:05, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
I think this article should have information on when/how the name Grey began to be used in preference to describing an alien as grey. I've no idea, that's what I came here for. 81.174.226.229 ( talk) 09:21, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
It would require a third party source detailing this. Without such a source it would be conjecture and would be deleted under polcy. - perfectblue ( talk) 14:43, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
I erased the link to a book someone added to try to increase their profits, with a misleading title. The link says Ancient Grey Alien Accounts, but then links to a site selling a book called Anatomy of the Human Grey Body. I believe that is misleading, and obviously just an ad someone added. There are thousands of books out there one could buy about the subject. The link before it I left, since that is to a free book, although I didn't bother to download it, so I don't know if it has any information relevant to a legitimate encyclopedic article. Dream Focus ( talk) 01:06, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
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Anyone else agree that it sounds absolutely stupid that if greys did exist, they'd feed off light? I think it should be deleted. It is entirely speculative and unfounded. Since when does anyone know what an unknown species does? Since when are fauna life photosynthetic? Needs to be removed. -- Hybrid.evolution ( talk) 11:36, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
Cast under silhoutte, the skin would appear to be black or dark grey to the senses or perhaps tan or brown. They are called "little green men" for their green eyes visible, if the West Virginia Mothman is noted for red eyes. Same phenomena by the visible outline of the figure besides the creature's said eyes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.153.48.25 ( talk) 22:42, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
I have a vague memory that the shape of 'grey' was actually created by Californian underground artists in about 1968 — as a spoof. Any comments? Harjasusi ( talk) 20:01, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
What about that demonic man named Aliester Crowley who drew a picture of a space Alien that he said he was in comunication with? This predates anything above. http://www.boudillion.com/lam/lam.htm
the gray aliens are one of 2 playable races in dark colony. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.208.59.120 ( talk) 05:25, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
Wasn't it the 1958 BBC serial "Quatermas and the Pit" which introduced to a much wider audience the idea of primitive humans removed from the Earth to be selectively bred to increase their intelligence? AT Kunene ( talk) 09:44, 20 February 2012 (UTC) 'Quatermas and the Pit' were written by BBC television drama writer Nigel Kneale in 1952/53 and aired by the BBC first time during the summer of 1953. It was re-broadcast several times up to 1979. /info/en/?search=The_Quatermass_Experiment
This info needs to be added to the article. They are the decendents of hybrid offspring of human's and angels who made bodies for themselves before the flood in an effort to lift man up from their fall in defience of God but these hybrids kept growing into giants called Nephilim and consumed the flesh of animals and men to feed their growing bodies. See book of Enoch. There was advanced technology before the Biblical flood and the angels returned to heaven as spirits but the Nephilim unable to do this spiritual transformation made space craft for themselves and went into space where the radiation from space weakened their DNA and so therefore their bodies appear as they do today instead of the close to God like beings of the Nephilim. They now appear mutated and demonic to radiation in space, eating the flesh of human children and alienation from God. They give the USA Government advanced technology and the USA Government keeps them secret and feeds their blood lust. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.81.134.236 ( talk) 16:36, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
Back in the 1990s Dan Rather of CBS reported on this and made this connection to the time before the flood and called the "Aliens" the product of the union between man and angel. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.81.134.236 ( talk) 22:47, 24 April 2012 (UTC) This was on the CBS evening news. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.81.134.236 ( talk) 02:49, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
Those are called soviets man — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.170.13.42 ( talk) 22:27, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
hey i think the cartoon picture of the grey diminishes the article by making it look unrealistic, so i we will have to find another one. moreover, i do not think greys are sexless because the have been reported to have a male or female feel when thet communicate — Preceding unsigned comment added by Knowledge spouse ( talk • contribs) 03:47, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
During the Medieval period it was Succubus and Incubus, now its the Greys. Whatever next? AT Kunene ( talk) 14:24, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
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It's terrible. The face is too square, the body too muscular and the belly... Well, he looks like he has been drinking too much galactic beer. It does not look like a "typical" Grey alien. 172.56.5.124 ( talk) 22:30, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
I mean lately Wikipedia seems to be writing articles about topics that are so controversial and difficult to source or prove such as esoterical and metaphysical issues (other examples Ive seen are astrology signs and "Old souls" and aliens and whatnot)....
I mean how is this article about "aliens" which western humanity typically believes aren't real (im not saying i believe theyre fake, i just think its weird that this is actually an article) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adlhgeo1990 ( talk • contribs) 07:44, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
It's clearly the author's opinion and, although interesting doesn't really give any accepted sources or citations for what amounts to speculation. It really needs a great deal of tidying up, with the insertion of allegedly, claimed, etc. , in the appropriate places. 6Harry9 ( talk) 19:24, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
Is this video authentic, or is it a fake created to raise some youtube money? Can it be used as an external link in the article? Logos ( talk) 12:27, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
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So, I got redirected here from an article in a tabloid's webpage... And, despite being generally uninterested in conspiracy theories, even I can tell that the alien in that image is supposed to look gangly instead of having a potbelly. Old School WWC Fan ( talk) 17:38, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
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I've been reading information lately about where the Grays came from. It seems as though there's a number of different sources that say Grays were originally humans that got involved in some kind of nuclear war either on a planet called Apex or in the Rigel star system. Might be interesting to include this?
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Take a look at this guy's take: http://www.theironskeptic.com/articles/gray/gray_history.htm
Some of his points are already covered in the article but I feel it's worth reading. Vandergay ( talk) 17:59, 16 December 2019 (UTC)