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The result was: rejected by
BlueMoonset (
talk) 15:28, 22 December 2022 (UTC)reply
Ineligible as the article has already been featured on the main page at ITN in November; there is clearly no consensus at
WT:DYK for any exception to so recent an appearance
Just for the record, the 574,000 displaced / 100,000 dead numbers are just for the war from August 2022–onward. The death toll for the whole war is actually closer to either 385,000–600,000 or 700,000–800,000, depending on which estimate you look at, and displacement is closer to 2.5–2.75 million.
XTheBedrockX (
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I agree. ALT1 would be misleading - grossly underestimating the scale of the war. I've put ALT2 below and put the info in the background section.
Boud (
talk) 17:35, 4 November 2022 (UTC)reply
There were some grammatical/typographical errors in the hooks. I have fixed these. –
dudhhrtalkcontribs (he/they) 14:50, 4 November 2022 (UTC)reply
ALT2 aims to avoid some problems in the original proposal: we're not supposed to give a
somewhat surprising link; and we don't have sources in the article establishing that the Tigray War is one of the "biggest" current conflicts (there was an editing-energy-wasting debate for the lead of the
2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine in the first few days(?) about whether or not it was "the biggest" European war since epoch X; the biggest problem was ambiguity in the sources in stating what quantity determines "biggest"), and we probably don't want to waste energy trying to find sources for the "biggest" claim, and "contemporary" could mean either "now" or XXIst century or "last 50 years". ALT2 aims to avoid the problems of ALT1, in which the numbers refer to post-August-2022 displacements and deaths, rather than overall Tigray War counts. "Half a million" is a fair round summary for 385,000–600,000 (
Jan Nyssen et al, interviewed by The Globe and Mail) and a conservative lower bound for "700,000–800,000" (
XTheBedrockX above; I didn't search for a source).
Boud (
talk) 17:35, 4 November 2022 (UTC)reply700 to 800,000 is in
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-63291747 by a not-currently-Wikipedia-notable "
analyst" -
Abdurahman Sayed.
Boud (
talk) 17:50, 4 November 2022 (UTC)reply
The article is currently on Wikipedia's main page as a bolded link in the ITN section. Normally I'd quickfail this now, but as the circumstances of that requirement are
under discussion at the moment, I'm marking the article with a violet tick in the meantime pending the results of that discussion.
Narutolovehinata5 (
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contributions) 02:07, 10 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Although the discussion is ongoing, I don't think there will be consensus for bolded links on ITN running on DYK without some time having passed (at least a few months). As such I don't think this article can run on DYK at this time.
Narutolovehinata5 (
talk ·
contributions) 13:11, 2 December 2022 (UTC)reply
Long-term editing on peace processes/peace research
This peace agreement didn't just suddenly turn up magically out of nowhere (and it's not yet solid). For people attracted to editing activities on long-term peace processes, research into those processes, peace researchers, peace research journals, and related issues, and wishing to add/improve serious content, have a look at the list of suggested tasks at
User:Boud/Draft:WikiProject Peace and start editing and/or add yourself there. This is a fundamentally important field of knowledge that is (currently) very weakly covered in en.Wikipedia. (If the number of active editors rises above a critical, self-sustaining threshold, then the project should be moved out of my user space.)
Boud (
talk) 22:19, 7 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Boud, thank you for sharing this perspective. In our current 24 hour news cycles, important world events fall out of favor and seemingly forgotten. It is important to note that peace agreements take a lot of work, time and effort. It is unfortuante that this process has not been more widely covered, especially the events leading up to the current peace agreement.
Jurisdicta (
talk) 16:45, 11 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Implementation?
Seems like we currently have very few sources for a section Implementation.
RFI 11 Nov 2022 says that there's nice rhetoric from an ET government member but nothing actually happening per a humanitarian worker and Getachew Reda. (I personally think that the 30 day deadline for disarming the TDF is utterly unrealistic; confidence-building will have to go in successive concrete steps by all three sides - including the EDF that is not mentioned in the agreement - and evidence that they're happening that is accepted by all sides. My opinion doesn't count for the article, of course.)Boud (
talk) 01:02, 12 November 2022 (UTC)reply
just added it, and Addis Standard just reported some new developments too, so that should be added soon too
XTheBedrockX (
talk) 20:30, 12 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Useful sources
Some links that might be useful to add this this article. Currently a little too busy to do it myself, but I'll place it here just in case: