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You guys don't have a clue about craft beer ... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.31.251.164 ( talk • contribs)
Hey, now .. . someone has made a well-intentioned start on a topic that's of interest to me, and I'd think to you too, based on your post. I'd agree, though that this could use expansion and editing, although 'craft beer' is a loose enough term that there's sure to be a wide range of interpretations of what it means. I'd certainly like to see this page developed further, and I'll try to take some time to make some contributions myself in the near future. -- Shorn again 20:56, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
OK, so I made an edit. I removed the Brew Guild link as it seemed to place disproportionate importance on one local brewing supply store. If anyone feels strongly it should be included, I would propose a page for brewing supply retailers. I also external-linked the Brewer's Association website to the reference made to it. I tried to massage the language a bit to promote NPOV and better flow, and added some general history. It still needs a lot of work, and particularly more citations and facts. Something about the percent of the marker craft beer represents would be good. And what the heck are the 'rules of alternating proprietorship' anyhow and who follows them? -- Shorn again 02:15, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
They are related and the terms are almost/sometimes are interchangeable BalfourCentre 13:20, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
Craft beer deserves a page in its own right. its only in the US where microbrewery and craft beer are interchangeable, in the UK for example we don't define "craft" in terms of a maximum number of hectalitres the brewery produces.
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This appears to be a very US centric article with a few minor mentions of Canada and Australia.
The UK has a large micro brewing industry, I am not well versed enough to write anything about it but I know they're everywhere in England. It is something I'm very jealous about.
Micro brewing isn't big at all over here in Ireland, we're stuck with the big brand stuff, Diageo or Bass brand pubs to a very large extent, but there's still a few. http://www.whitewaterbrewery.com/ is my local one Conorflan ( talk) 23:50, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
I added the image for the Welsh microbrewery - just to make the point about national traditions and although I don't know much about the industry, as a beer drinker I can say that the supermarkets in England have a range of specialist microbrewery products - a couple within reach of me have guided tours etc. Some are staying ahead of the recession. WyrdLight ( talk) 09:20, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
I've added some more British angles and history in the hope this balances the noted US dominance in the article, Regards, Chocolate Gibbon, July 2011
I added some facts for Germany. If the language is not proper, please correct. -- Lberges ( talk) 20:50, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
It is awful to read five or more units of measure: gal, impgal, barrels, litres, hectolitres. Is there any endeavour to improve that? -- Lberges ( talk) 20:50, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
What kind of terrible unit is hls? After 15 minutes of googling with barely any relevant results, it turns out is hectolitres. This is not an approved SI unit. Moreover 5,000 hcl is a terrible way to try and express an amount; akin to saying 5 thousand hundreds. 500,000L or 500 KL or 0.5ML. We need this article to be written to normal people, not some unit that you cannot understand unless you happen to be in the brewery industry. Agree with Lberges -- somebody needs to fix this byo ( talk)
microbrewery and brewery
These articles are about the same thing. The difference is industry semantics which is primarily recognized in the United States. A brewery makes lots and lots of beer and is owned by a diverse company. The other makes... well, amount of beer ranging from very little to lots of beer and is independently owned.
In the article brewery, there are already brief explanations on the different types of breweries. The information in microbrewery should be merged with brewery. This will more accurately describe the global transformation of the brewing industry in the late 20th/early 21st Centuries. DFS ( talk) 18:57, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
The term "craft brewer", as used in the US, is constantly changing to allow the Boston Beer Company to remain a "craft brewer", regardless of how much beer they brew, and how lousy it is. It's become a marketing term with no real stable meaning. No matter how big and bloated they get, no matter how much beer they and their commercial contract brewers pump out, they still get to be called a "craft brewer". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.68.134.1 ( talk) 21:35, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
At a time when Wikipedia is overwhelmed with a lengthy proposed mergers backlog, many of which are obvious content forks crying out for someone to just do it rather than tag it for someone else to take care of, I find this type of merger proposal and activity annoying. Craft beer was an independent article, albeit unsourced except for an inline link to the Brewers Association website. Rather than cleaning it up, it was redirected to Microbrewery 08:44, 4 October 2007, and content was merged with this edit. Then it was redirected to Microbrewery#Craft beer. The implication being that only microbreweries produce "craft beer." Alas, as yet Wiktionary doesn't define the term, but Merriam-Webster says it's "a specialty beer produced in limited quantities," while a microbrew is a beer produced by a microbrewery. Wiktionary agrees. There was a microbrew article, but it was merged to microbrewery. "A specialty beer produced in limited quantities" doesn't seem to rule out homebrewing, as "many people enjoy entering homebrew competitions, sometimes referred to as craft brewing." Nor would it seem to rule out a large brewery brewing "craft beer," provided the quantities were sufficiently "limited." Nonetheless, craft beer remained a sub-section of Microbrewery until this edit which renamed the section to Craft brewer, removed most of the merged content under the claim that it was original research, and changed the definition from
Craft beer is an American term also common in Canada and New Zealand to refer to beer brewed without adjuncts such as rice or corn, for distinction and flavor rather than mass appeal. [1]
to
Craft brewer is a term coined by the American Brewers Association to replace microbrewery; it gives a definition of "small, independent and traditional", with small defined as an "annual production of 6 million barrels of beer or less". [1]
In my opinion this second definition could also be considered as original research, and may be no better than the first:
The effect of changing the section from a discussion of craft beer to craft brewer after merging was deletion by redirection, as effectively Wikipedia no longer has an article on craft beer as Microbrewery, where Craft beer redirects, avoids mention of the topic. This situation needs fixed. – Wbm1058 ( talk) 20:34, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
See Talk:Craft beer, someone else has the same idea as me. Wbm1058 ( talk) 19:42, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
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"Craft beer has fat-burning properties if you drink enough of it."
Why is there two paragraphs about how beer is packaged in the craft brewery segment? It seems to me, the topic packaging doesn't belong there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sengsational ( talk • contribs) 15:28, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
Perhaps an additional section could be added to /info/en/?search=Beverage_can that talked about the beer can is used in craft beer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sengsational ( talk • contribs) 15:33, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: Moved to Craft beer. As said and provided in the request moves (RM) discussion, the Ngram stats for "Craft beer" seems to be way higher than any other alternatives here. On top of that, I see some consensus that finds the current title a bit clunky and long. However, I also see some consensus for Craft brewing as well, so it is possible that there could be a new RM for Craft brewing in the future. Please do note that "Per nom" comments without explanations carry very little weight. ( non-admin closure) Wikiexplorationandhelping ( talk) 14:13, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
Craft brewery and microbrewery → Craft beer – This is just unnecessarily clunky. Craft brewery and microbrewery are rather synonymous from what I understand from the article. Though Craft brewery and microbrewery#Definitions has five definitions, not just the two in the title. And it's what these breweries produce in the end, which is usually called just 'craft beer', not 'micro beer'. Other options like 'craft beer industry', 'craft beer brewery' or even just the single 'craft brewery' is a better option, in my opinion. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 17:11, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
It is likely a notable topic. See wikidata:Q3640372 Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:01, 21 February 2023 (UTC)