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3) In the last paragraph in that same section is the phrase "two monogenetic volcanoes". Would it make sense to link "monogenetic volcanoes" to
Monogenetic volcanic field, or some other article?
There is tomographic evidence that lithospheric delamination is currently underway beneath Tuzgle.
I'd like to link "delamination" to something but I couldn't find the right article. There is no mention of "delamination" even in the article on the
Lithosphere. There is an article on
Lamination, but it has nothing to do with the lithosphere or plate tectonics.
5) In the second paragraph of the lead is the following sentence:
Later, the first lava domes were erupted.
I believe I may have brought this up when I copy-edited the other long article on a South American volcano a few months ago. To a non-expert like myself, the passive voice form of the verb to erupt, "were erupted", sounds strange. I think I know what is meant, that the lava domes were forced up and out of the earth by the force of a volcanic eruption; in other words, the eruption created the lava domes. But most non-experts are used to seeing the verb in active voice: the volcano erupted, or the volcano is erupting. Later, there may be descriptions of what exactly occurred, and you might see things like, "Lava spewed forth and flowed down the sides of the volcano", or "Molten lava and hot gases shot high into the sky", or "The volcano ejected boulders and hot gases". Ordinarily, you would not see "X was erupted [by the volcano/by the eruption]", or "Ys were erupted [by the volcano/by the eruption]". Therefore, I must assume either that this is language used mainly by experts in the field or that it is a translation from Spanish. If it is language used in English by experts in the field, it's O.K. It can stay in the article, but I'm wondering then whether it could be briefly explained the first time it is used (perhaps not in the lead, though), perhaps with a parenthetical phrase such as:
Later, the first lava domes were erupted, or created in an eruption.
or:
Later, the first lava domes were erupted (forced out of the ground in an eruption).
That way, an average non-expert reader would know what "were erupted" meant. What do you think?
Corinne (
talk) 01:36, 27 January 2016 (UTC)reply
I've added a few links to the lead and changed/removed some contradictory or simply confusing date bits.
Vsmith (
talk) 15:03, 27 January 2016 (UTC)reply
Thanks for the assistance,
Vsmith and
Corinne! I'll try to work on the questions/issues raised tomorrow, but now "meatspace" work needs to take precedence.
Jo-Jo Eumerus (
talk,
contributions) 15:06, 27 January 2016 (UTC)reply
6) Why does it say "Susques Department, Jujuy Province, Argentina" in the infobox but "Los Andes Department of Salta Province in Argentina" in the lead?
Corinne (
talk) 19:36, 27 January 2016 (UTC)reply
Several major fault zones run across the Puna in the area, the most important being the Toro lineament to the south of Tuzgle on which several Pleistocene volcanoes – Cordon Puntas Negras, Rincon, Tul Tul-Del Medio-Pocitos, Quevar, and Tastil (from north to south) (as well as the Negra Muerta volcanic complex) – align and which has been subject to left-lateral displacement, as well as a segment named the Chorrillos fault located directly south of Tuzgle.
I'm wondering whether this sentence isn't a little too long and a bit convoluted. The verb ("align") comes after a very long parenthetical phrase (set off by en-dashes), and it's not immediately clear to what the phrase beginning "as well as" is following or is connected to.
Corinne (
talk) 19:48, 27 January 2016 (UTC)reply
I see that Vsmith has already worked on some issues brought up here. The British English is deliberate; I prefer to use that spelling when writing stuff. Linked to the first proposed page for "seismic attenuation" and found
Delamination (geology) for the delamination subject. Regarding the departments, apparently the volcano lies within Jujuy, so corrected that. Regarding 5), it's a convention used in the field - not sure what the preferred rewording in plain English is. 7) needs a bit more though on my part.
Jo-Jo Eumerus (
talk,
contributions) 13:03, 28 January 2016 (UTC)reply
OK, @
Corinne:. I've just made a minor copyedit to the text to address 6 and 7. Does it look good now?
Jo-Jo Eumerus (
talk,
contributions) 19:52, 3 February 2016 (UTC)reply
Jo-Jo Eumerus I re-arranged the sentence; hope I got the information right. Can you please check to be sure the references are in the right place? I wasn't sure whether to move a reference to an earlier place in the sentence.
Corinne (
talk) 04:08, 4 February 2016 (UTC)reply
I've rearranged one reference to account for the location change of the information.
Jo-Jo Eumerus (
talk,
contributions) 08:52, 4 February 2016 (UTC)reply
Thanks for the quick response. I have struck or the resolved issues. I'll list the rest of the comments in a few days, a bit busy now. Cheers!
Sainsf(
talk·contribs) 17:04, 3 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Result: Kept, one support and no issues raised for multiple months.CMD (
talk) 12:52, 8 March 2021 (UTC)reply
This article was listed as a good article a little over four years ago, but I've done a major rewrite this last week that has a different structure. Consequently, I'd like to see the article re-reviewed to check whether it still meets the GA criteria.
Jo-Jo Eumerus (
talk) 19:29, 27 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Edits are a substantial improvement imo, I see no reason why the article doesn't meet the GA criteria. (
t ·
c) buidhe 09:02, 29 October 2020 (UTC)reply
is "flank collapse unit" a technical term used by volcanologists? i tried searching for it via google, but
the results appear to only include this article, its blurb, or sources that apparently copied from wikipedia. i am admittedly not sure if there are enough context clues in the blurb for most main page readers to confidently determine the meaning of the term. (my current guess is that "flank collapse unit" means "a geological feature formed by a collapse on a volcano outside its center", but that was only after looking through the article, and i am still not sure if i am understanding it correctly.) i think the scarp and the depression mentioned in the first section of the article are the units being referred to, but the article states that the scarp "probably formed through a localized collapse" and the depression "may also be evidence of a collapse", so i am not sure if one of them has been confirmed to be a flank collapse unit.
in "Subsequently, lava domes were erupted and several lava flows;", is "several lava flows" a clause? if so, i am guessing that "flows" is the verb, but this would mean that "lava" is being treated as a plural noun, which doesn't agree with "flows". alternatively, if "were erupted" is the verb phrase associated with the noun phrase "several lava flows", i think this use of ellipsis is confusing. (similarly, "Jo-Jo Eumerus edits wikipedia and dying" is also likely difficult to parse.) i was thinking of rephrasing this as "Subsequently, lava domes and several lava flows erupted;" (or even "Subsequently, several lava domes and flows erupted;"), but i don't know if this would be accurate.
Greetings,
Dying. I've moved this conversation to the article talk page, since it has more to do with the article than with me.
Jo-Jo Eumerus (
talk) 06:06, 19 June 2023 (UTC)reply
No, "flank collapse unit" is the term I use to describe the unit formed by the flank collapse. Maybe calling it "unit formed by the flank collapse" is less misleading? I've rewritten the other part.
Jo-Jo Eumerus (
talk) 06:09, 19 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Jo-Jo Eumerus, i admittedly think the wording would still be a bit awkward, in either "a confirmed unit formed by the flank collapse and a possible one" or "one confirmed and one possible unit formed by the flank collapse". was there only one flank collapse? also, i think neither the blurb nor the article lead mention a flank collapse before referring to the units, so perhaps using the definite article would be inappropriate.your response led me to realize that "flank collapse" is a technical term, which appears to be discussed on wikipedia
here. is this something that you think would be appropriate to link? i also recently found the
stratigraphic unit article. is this what you mean when you use the word "unit"?i am still unsure if the scarp and the depression are the two features being referred to as the confirmed flank unit and the possible one, but if so, would the following rewrite of the sentence in the blurb referring to them be accurate?
note that, if "unit" does refer to "stratigraphic unit", i felt that this may not be obvious to many main page readers, even if the term was linked, so i thought that simply stating what the units actually were would make the blurb more clear. also, i did not state that the scarp was confirmed to be the result of a flank collapse, as the article body appears to be less certain, only stating that "it probably formed through a localized collapse".
dying (
talk) 20:47, 20 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Yes, that rewrite works. I don't think we ought to specify "stratigraphic unit" as the term's a bit fuzzy.
Jo-Jo Eumerus (
talk) 07:18, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Jo-Jo Eumerus, would you mind updating the blurb for me? it is currently under cascading protection and i am not an administrator.
dying (
talk) 14:14, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
everything else in the blurb would remain the same. my understanding is that you stated that this "rewrite works". is this not the case?by the way, i think (but am not entirely certain) that edits like this are generally requested at wp:errors.
dying (
talk) 18:42, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Congratulations on your featured article status. It takes a lot of work to reach this level of excellence. Thank you for your hard work. Best Regards,
Barbara ✐✉ 13:19, 22 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Requesting protection on this article
Frequent vandals have been coming to this page. A moment ago, the image of the volcano was literally replaced with pornography.
Wikentromere (
talk) 13:43, 22 June 2023 (UTC)reply
@Wikentromere now that person is removing and re-adding it rapidly? I'm not sure why, but maybe that makes it harder to stop them. all I know is that I just saw porn on my work computer
TimPerkin9 (
talk) 13:47, 22 June 2023 (UTC)reply
It hasn’t been hacked. This is Wikipedia. Anyone can edit things. It’s vandalism, let’s not blow things out of proportion here. It should be given edit protection and the account @
Spanishabbcyshould be suspended.
Wikentromere (
talk) 13:45, 22 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Tomayto tomaaato. It’s my shorthand version of saying what you just said. Lol blow things out of proportion is that a volcano reference.
2A00:23C7:F789:7B01:14B7:254E:C61D:8D47 (
talk) 13:52, 22 June 2023 (UTC)reply
“Back arc” - contradiction with other article?
This lead in this article states that “Tuzgle is a prominent volcano of the
back arc of the
Andes”. However, the linked article on “back arc” states that: “Presently all back-arc basins are submarine features associated with
island arcs and
subduction zones, with many found in the western
Pacific Ocean.” Isn’t that a contradiction? Tuzgle is well-inland, according to the map in the article, so how can it be a “submarine feature”?
Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (
talk) 18:18, 22 June 2023 (UTC)reply
I think
back-arc is incorrect; the physical definition of a back-arc basin does not require that it is submarine.
Jo-Jo Eumerus (
talk) 19:09, 22 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Can you fix the other article, then? I don't know enough to be comfortable doing so, but the two articles shouldn't contradict each other.
Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (
talk) 03:58, 23 June 2023 (UTC)reply
OK, nevermind, I see the actual problem:
Back-arc is a redirect to
back-arc basin even though it does not refer solely to these basins.
Jo-Jo Eumerus (
talk) 07:08, 23 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Should that link be there, then? I’m a reader with no geology background, and it seems contradictory to me. What’s the difference between a back-arc and a back-arc basin, and shouldn’t that be made clear?
Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (
talk) 14:18, 23 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Back-arc generally refers to the region behind a
volcanic arc-subduction zone. Sometimes you use it to talk about certain types of volcanoes that occur in back-arcs. Other times you mean a back-arc basin.
Jo-Jo Eumerus (
talk) 15:14, 23 June 2023 (UTC)reply
But that is ambiguous, and seems to me to require that the reader has a geological background to understand. For someone without geological information, the wikilink is leading a reader to something that does not apply here. The link takes the reader to a discussion of sub-marine formations. How is that at all relevant to a discussion of a volcano that is well inland? I think that link should be deleted.
Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (
talk) 18:33, 23 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Maybe. As it stands, it seems like most of the links to
back-arc do not refer to the basin ... because I have linked it on a lot of my articles. I dunno, perhaps the redirect should be sent to
WP:RFD; it may qualify under
WP:RFD#DELETE §10.
Jo-Jo Eumerus (
talk) 19:30, 24 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Back-arc region is the article that back-arc should be linking to; I've changed the redirect to reflect this. Volcanoguy 08:08, 1 July 2023 (UTC)reply