This article is within the scope of WikiProject Television, a collaborative effort to develop and improve Wikipedia articles about
television programs. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page where you can
join the discussion.
To improve this article, please refer to the
style guidelines for the type of work.TelevisionWikipedia:WikiProject TelevisionTemplate:WikiProject Televisiontelevision articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject United States, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of topics relating to the
United States of America on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the ongoing discussions.
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Horror, an attempt to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to fictional horror in
film,
literature and other media on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, you can edit one of the articles mentioned below, or visit the project page, where you can join the project and contribute to the general Project discussion to talk over new ideas and suggestions.HorrorWikipedia:WikiProject HorrorTemplate:WikiProject Horrorhorror articles
Image:CARRIE2002.JPG is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under
fair use but there is no
explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the
boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with
fair use.
Please go to
the image description page and edit it to include a
fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at
Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.
If there is other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images lacking such an explanation can be deleted one week after being tagged, as described on
criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the
Media copyright questions page. Thank you.
-- Comments --
This plot summary is somewhat different from what's in the movie that I saw. Part of the story told here, such as the police being involved, is not found in the 2002 movie. I also dispute the end of the plot summary. Sue didn't rescue Carrie in the bathtub, nor did Carrie's mother try to revive her. Not in the movie I saw. —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
173.87.204.153 (
talk) 06:01, 25 April 2009 (UTC)reply
Bad English
Why have people editing this article been using nonsense, sentence fragments, and bad grammar? --
Wykypydya (
talk) 16:30, 27 December 2009 (UTC)reply
Request for semi-protection denied
I put a request for semi-protection but it was denied because the vandalism isn't recent enough. --
67.159.68.1 (
talk) 23:00, 14 February 2010 (UTC)reply
Genre
Hey,
Andrzejbanas, I noticed that
you tagged the genre listing, saying that the lack of third-party sources violate
WP:SUBJECTIVE. However, I may disagree. The policy especifically say that is an effort to avoid
"effusive" descriptions like "X is the world's greatest soprano" or "Shakespeare is the best author". The case here is very different, as no one is claiming Carrie is a good film, etc. Also, I understand that primary sources should not be used to support
exceptional claims, but how the film's genre (a mere description) fit on this category?
Gabriel Yuji (
talk) 19:42, 21 January 2018 (UTC)reply
Hi Gabriel! The main issues i'm having with this is from these elements of
WP:SUBJECTIVE, name that it is "appropriate to note how an artist or a work has been received by prominent experts and the general public" and that "Articles should provide an overview of the common interpretations of a creative work, preferably with citations to experts holding that interpretation. Verifiable public and scholarly critiques provide useful context for works of art." The main issue is, we should not use the own companies interpretation of how they want to promote their product. (in this case, MGM). This was a relative large TV film as well, so it should not be too hard to find better sources.
Andrzejbanas (
talk) 23:44, 21 January 2018 (UTC)reply
1a Awkward lede sentence- how about "In the story, Carrie White, a shy girl who is harassed by her schoolmates, disappears and a series of flashbacks reveals what has happened to her"? What's the point of leading the third para a rehashed "A remake of the 1976 film"? "the film came in for criticism" is awkward. Plot opens with passive tense, instead of "Police interview several people". No "I" or "We" in academic writing. Production- "caused him disappointment" or "disappointed him"? What is meant by "another Carrie"? "killing 'someone who is victimized her entire life' can be clarified to mean having a fictional character (Carrie) die. Fuller quote just appears randomly in the section, with no explanation as to why it was placed in that spot. 1b Suggest formatting the cast list to an infobox alongside Production per
WP:CASTLIST. WP:ENGVAR issue- "capitalize" is a US spelling, but intro uses UK spelling.
Verifiable with no original research
2a Thoroughly referenced 2b Amazon.com is an online business, not a source. Who published ref 22? Is World Cat a reliable source?
2c. Full source review pending; infobox tags need addressing.
2d. No concerns
Broad in its coverage:
3a. Aftermath- Surely critics had some comparisons (good or bad) between the TV movie and
Carrie (2013 film)? What did Kimberly Peirce and/or Lawrence D. Cohen and/or Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa say about the TV movie?
3b. Not a lot off-topic.
Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
4. Seems accurate and relatively balanced.
Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing
edit war or content dispute.
5. No edit wars.
Illustrated, if possible, by media such as
images,
video, or
audio
6. Poster is attributed.
6 review updated: Other images are free.
Ribbet32 (
talk) 22:08, 16 February 2018 (UTC)reply
Hi,
Ribbet32, thanks for the review. I rewrote the plot sentence. I don't think it is a rehash because it was not especifically mentioned that it was a remake (but maybe it fits better in the second para about production; what do you think?). Changed "the film came in for criticism" with "the film was criticized". Removed the "We" bit and reworded as it was before the
requested copyedit. Changed to "disappointed him". I can assume that "another Carrie" is someone else with the same powers... but
in the source it's not clear at all, so I prefer to avoid some kind of
original research. I thought it was pretty clear, but nevertheless used "character" to further clarify it. Repositioned the quote about Carrie's characterization. UK spelling? I don't see it. Amazon is of course a business but it's still a source (they're not dichotomous attributes, at least I think so) – also, it's only being used to confirm a release date.
WorldCat is an Internet catalog and it is only used for technical infomration on the article. About the "Aftermath", I not sure it's totally inside the scope, but anyway I'll need some time to research about it. Thanks again,
Gabriel Yuji (
talk) 03:07, 31 January 2018 (UTC)reply
I didn't think it was a rehash because the first mention is about it being the second adaptation of the novel, but no relation is established between this film and the 1976 film (except for the source material). It could be a remake or not. Anyway, I changed it.
Also, added the publisher for ref #21 and #22.
Gabriel Yuji (
talk) 01:25, 1 February 2018 (UTC)reply
Plot is a little on the long side and feels silly in places. "At her hallway locker, as Carrie gathers her belongings to leave school, she is the victim of a practical joke" violates
WP:PLOTSUM. " telekinetic mayhem ensues" is sitcom language. "a witch for destroying the whole town" should just be "a witch".Ribbet32 (
talk) 02:14, 1 February 2018 (UTC)reply
Wow, thanks for these sources! Replaced Amazon and WorldCat. Also, it was a little useful on reception.
It's within the
WP:FILMPLOT range of 400–700 words (618, according to
WordCounter) – it should also be considered it's more than two hours long. Could you be more specific on how that sentence violates PLOTSUM?; it's doesn't even describe the joke itself. Changed the other two sentences.
Gabriel Yuji (
talk) 03:11, 1 February 2018 (UTC)reply
On hold Source review generally held up, but instances of
close paraphrasing needs rewording: "The series would also feature Carrie and Sue traveling to help other people with telekinetic abilities", "considered the idea of transferring Carrie's powers to Sue" Ribbet32 (
talk) 00:33, 3 February 2018 (UTC)reply
Fixed infobox tags and paraphrased the mentioned sentences.
Gabriel Yuji (
talk) 02:08, 5 February 2018 (UTC)reply
About the location, according to
Set-Jetter it was filmed it the Point Grey Secondary. However, the source and the information were removed from the article because the addition was considered to be a spam (see:
[1]).
Gabriel Yuji (
talk) 02:12, 5 February 2018 (UTC)reply
If there's no RS it's not vital. But I forgot to mention that it's
Blu-ray, not "Blu-Ray".
Ribbet32 (
talk) 03:22, 5 February 2018 (UTC)reply
@
Ribbet32: Fixed "Blu-ray". About the cast,
WP:FILMCAST gives some different options; the bulleted list or the infobox. As there is no "Casting" or any detailed information on the cast, I think the current status is enough and not a GA issue. And about the 2013 film, I don't think it's really worth mentioning. It's not a consequence of the 2002 film and neither their fictional story or real-world production are connected (except for the fact they adapt the same novel, which may be interesting to note in the novel article). I mean, the first source simply says bullying is an issue in 2013 but how this relates to this film? and to say that this film is more faithful to the novel is more related to the novel than to this film. I've searched for more sources and read through the references in
Carrie (2013_film)#Production, but found nothing significant except for blabbering like "ah, there was also this remake in 2002".
Gabriel Yuji (
talk) 21:32, 12 February 2018 (UTC)reply
@
Gabriel Yuji: The Cast list is awful, like so many others on Wikipedia, and at least adding a reference to it would help, but I'm willing to let the formatting (or lack thereof) slide. The fact that another film followed this one seems like a gap though. And the references I provided should make it easy for you "A remake went forward in 2013 after producers felt the 2002 version did not capture modern bullying. X critic compared the two versions and said 2002 was more faithful."
Ribbet32 (
talk) 22:43, 12 February 2018 (UTC)reply
@
Ribbet32: In the case of this article, the infobox-style cast would be awful too, in my opinion, because it's a long list and it would conflict with the actual infobox (also, it would feel displaced because production doesn't talk about casting) (
see). Anyway, added the bit about the 2013 remake, though I do think it's very weak.
Gabriel Yuji (
talk) 18:13, 16 February 2018 (UTC)reply