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In the edit at 12:44, 12 June 2006, RupertMillard removed:
from the description of paxman's presentation of university challenge.
It was previously removed on 21:40, 21 February 2006 by Martin S Taylor and replaced a day later by Flapdragon, who originally addded it at 20:20, 26 January 2005.
Paxman DOES mispronounce word which are critical to the understanding of the question on a fairly regular basis. (eg: this week he pronounced Adonis as "ah-dough-nis"). This was pointed out to me by a friend and it has bugged me ever since. TomViza 11:35, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
POV: diluting invective re: blair arrogance charges. what with being an encylopedia etc.
[ -- Leonig Mig, 21:37, 9 May 2005 (UTC)]
"since 16 May 2005 he has rejoiced in the unlikely name of Baron Adonis of Camden Town. (As the conservative periodical The Spectator asked, "Who, or what, is 'Lord Adonis of Camden Town'? A Greek restaurant? A hairdresser? A dubious card pinned up in a telephone box?")"
but its still funny... especially regarding his appearance (see links to pictures). Public jokes about his name and reality (" more Andrew than Adonis") made his wife upset, as Lord Adonis himself put it in his maiden speech at the House of Lord, implicating that she – a little masculine looking Oxford eager beaver - might have married him at least partly because of his beauty, what a chap!
I find it entertaining to see how "On 16 May 2005, he was created a life peer as Baron Adonis, of Camden Town in the London Borough of Camden, elevation to membership of the House of Lords making possible his appointment as a government minister."
the author seems to want to imply you have to be a member of the aristocracy to become a minister, which would make britain seem positively medieval. While it's technically true that he needed some sort of office to be able to serve as minister, i'm not sure that saying he had to become an aristocrat in order to serve his country is entirely accurate or fair to the Great nation called Britain. Boombaard 17:09, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
It doesn't say he became an aristocrat, it says he became a member of the Lords. Seadowns ( talk) 13:54, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
Note:
Kaihsu added the POV tag at on 15:47, 10 May 2005 (UTC), but didn't note this here. He was, however, quite correct - the article rambles too much and needs clean-up anyway, but there is too much POV here (we don't talk about the fact that Adonis' policies have greatly enhanced the results of children in exams in the past 8 years in the UK - or, at least, the appearance of this in the media - which would be a sensible thing to add). Please review
our central policy of neutrality.
James F. (talk) 17:19, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
Just in case anyone doesn't get the joke, "Tony Zoffis" is a Greek-sounding homophone for " Tony's office". David | Talk 15:25, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
I have a hard time believing "the without exception negative public reactions about his appointment to the Lords" is true. I suspect an editor has confused "overwhelmingly" with "unanimously"; they are not the same thing! 86.132.139.49 03:34, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
Elloydda8 - you are certainly a friend or relative of Baron Adonis, aren't you?
However, please only delete information which is clearly untrue, not sourced or generally accepted as unfair. But to put a bright and clear light on one person is not the aim of any wikipedia biography!
And never delete 80% of an article especially if you are totally new to wikipedia. This article has 100 or more writers and lots of sources and reviewers - so if you dislike it start a dispute, please.
Elloydda8 = Wilber999 is after some constructive comments again deleting whole passage which she dislikes.
Elloydda8 and Wilber999 wrote: "Shirley Williams, a critic of Labour's public service reforms, described him as 'a brilliant, articulate and extremely helpful Minister' after his piloting of the 2006 Education Bill through Parliament (Hansard, 30 Oct 2006)" - Wikipedia needs here a proper quotation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:UK_Parliament
I'm not really bothered about the citations, change them if you want. However the version you reverted to is a non-neutral hatchet job which offends against our core policy on biographies, and has been the subject of a complaint. If you want to change the method of references, I will not stop you, but do not revert to that version again.-- Docg 08:14, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
I have reverted to Doc's last revision, both to restore proper <ref> citations (and could someone please expand these into complete citations; mere URLs are not sufficient) and to deal with the fact that Wikipedia is not a scandal sheet. See also Wikipedia's policy on biographies of living people. Kelly Martin ( talk) 14:18, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
: Sample text [http://www.example.org]
Sample text [1].
I cut out a lot of the article and referenced as much as I could, but there are a few improvements that could still be made. I'm not really interested in researching this further, but the "Political background" section is lacking. Secondly, if someone could take a look at "Selected publications" that would be great. I had trimmed it since it was bigger than the article, but I don't know if some of the books and articles I took out were more "important" than others. The last thing is finding some good external links. Oh, and finding citations where I couldn't find any.-- §hanel 06:02, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
I was just surfing Wikipedia news and found this article in PC Pro, which quotes the Department for Children, Schools and Families in saying that "Lord Adonis corrected a page about himself on Wikipedia which was factually incorrect." I don't know if these edits have been identified or found to be POV. Joshdboz ( talk) 17:36, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
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The user in question: 79.67.104.127
The contribution in question is found in the 'Subsequent Career' section:
Responding to Adonis' description of Brexit as a "populist and nationalist spasm", Iain Duncan Smith said the departure of Lord Adonis was "long overdue"; he added: "It's a bit rich for him to pontificate on what he calls populism, but what most would refer to as democracy, when he himself has never been elected by a public vote. [sic] He has instead relied on preferment from others."[29]
I want to talk about 2 things: 1.The User's behaviour 2.The nature of the contribution and whether it should be there.
1. The user has been obsessively protective of their contribution to the article. It's been deleted a number of times but this user reverts it every time with bogus claims of harassment. This person attacks other IPs who change the contribution because they don't have a past history of contribution, despite themselves not having a past history of contributions before this one. To me this makes the user look very motivated in one political aspect and thus does not uphold the values of contributing to wikipedia fairly in a bipartisan and neutral fashion.
The reverts in their own words:
17:23, 30 December 2017 (diff | hist) . . (+572) . . Andrew Adonis, Baron Adonis (Undid revision 817794972 by Saltpot99 (talk) reverting vandalism by a user who has never posted before.)
20:53, 29 December 2017 (diff | hist) . . (+505) . . Andrew Adonis, Baron Adonis (Undid revision 817665178 by 86.22.235.63 (talk) Another unregistered IP address that has never posted before tries to whitewash Adonis's entry.))
20:21, 29 December 2017 (diff | hist) . . (+298) . . Andrew Adonis, Baron Adonis (Restoring FACTual elements of my entry accused of being "abuse". See how unregistered IP addresses that have never posted before immediately whitewash Adonis's entry.)
2. The contribution looks and feels very tacked on. The section is about 'Subsequent Career' and not about criticism, if you can call this criticism. The user claims it's 'factual'. Well, it may factually come from Iain Duncan Smith but the quote is a political attack on Adonis and nothing more. It's political spin talk and deserves to be kept in the realm of tabloids, not on a wikipedia page.
A possible solution is to create a 'Criticism of Andrew Adonis' section but then this contribution and the section itself would still be out of place, for reasons I stated above. It should be deleted.
Phosfer ( talk) 11:58, 3 January 2018 (UTC)Phosfer
I been told to come to you 😊 Leilah 70 ( talk) 03:16, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
I have commenced a tidy-up of the Bibliography section:
This is a work in progress; feel free to continue. Sunwin1960 ( talk) 10:58, 9 August 2023 (UTC)