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In the year 2018, Mayor of Anchorage, Ethan Berkowitz, proposed an additional tax on all alcohol sales to curb the purchase of alcohol, in pursuit of a healthier city (Kelly, 2018). However, research conducted by Miller (2013) in Australia, a location demographically and geographically similar to Alaska, found that people were likely to stop purchasing alcohol when the price per standard surpassed 14 AUDs. While research shows that with the rise in price will result in the lowering of the demand for alcohol, the same research from Miller (2013) found that people were more likely to substitute other hard drugs for alcohol when it became too expensive and less attainable. The chance that this tax could push the population to start using hard drugs is unacceptable.
Alternatively, the city of Anchorage could put a larger focus on the identifying of specific symptoms in its population and utilize programs such as Mutual Health Groups (MHGs) and Mental Health First Aide in order to overcome the alcoholism issue. These options are more valid than the retail tax because research shows that people who participate in a MHG are less likely to relapse and fall back into Alcohol Abuse (Tracy & Wallace, 2016). Showing the MHGs do not create additional problems, unlike the taxation.
Csustudent1994 ( talk) 04:02, 26 July 2019 (UTC)Csustudent1994
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link). I should look over these papers; on the point of mutual aid groups, there is a lot of research on 12-step mutual aid groups, and they do greatly benefit a subset of alcoholics who “click” with the groups (75% short term success among regular meeting attenders as per Alcoholics Anonymous own mid-1950s observations and Fiorentine, Robert (1999). "After Drug Treatment: Are 12-Step Programs Effective in Maintaining Abstinence?". The American Journal of Drug and Alcohol Abuse. 25: 93–116.
doi:
10.1081/ADA-100101848., and 67% success 16 years later as per Moos, R. H.; Moos, B. S. (2006).
"Participation in Treatment and Alcoholics Anonymous: A 16-Year Follow-Up of Initially Untreated Individuals". Journal of Clinical Psychology. 62 (6): 735–750.
doi:
10.1002/jclp.20259.
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2220012.
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16538654.) which can not be attributed to self-selection (see Humphreys, Keith; Blodgett, Janet C.; Wagner, Todd H. (2014).
"Estimating the Efficacy of Alcoholics Anonymous without Self-Selection Bias: An Instrumental Variables Re-Analysis of Randomized Clinical Trials". Alcoholism: Clinical and Experimental Research. 38 (11): 2688–2694.
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10.1111/acer.12557.
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4285560.
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25421504.). There are no known mutual aid group more effective than the 12-step ones (actually, there is no treatment more effective over the long term than 12-step treatment. See, for example Keith Humphreys.
"Here's proof that Alcoholics Anonymous is just as effective as professional psychotherapies".
The Washington Post. Archived from
the original on 2016-05-31.), but mental health first aid looks to be very promising. Without knowing any peer-reviewed research on the matter off of the top of my head, I can tell you that the empathy and compassion that mental health first aid teaches people is very similar to the empathy and compassion the 12 steps teaches its adherents to have.
Defendingaa (
talk) 13:45, 26 July 2019 (UTC)User:Literaturegeek, I don't think that the "social costs" thing is actually meant to be about what economists call social costs, since that sentence begins with the words "Beyond the financial costs". I think it's meant to say that alcoholism results in damage to relationships with friends and family. This also seems to be the main point of the cited source, which appears to be a memoir.
But if you want to keep FSD listed as a non-financial "social cost", then I think the sentence should be expanded to explain some of the "emotional burden to family and society in general to look after" these innocent victims of someone else's alcohol use. But I would like you to consider whether that's actually the point being made in this sentence, and whether, upon reflection, that is a point that you really want to be making. I can't myself think of a way to say that without making it sound like we are blaming disabled people for being disabled. WhatamIdoing ( talk) 19:13, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
Does anyone have thoughts on the most recent conversations in Talk:Moderation Management? There's some concern about it's neutrality and other articles on alcoholism harm-reduction in Wikipedia. - Scarpy ( talk) 21:51, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
I know I'm not part of 'the Wikipedia Club' or whatever it's called, and I expect whatever edits I make to be reversed with a hand slap, so I wouldn't dare trying doing something so drastic to the article as a name change, but seriously, if the modern thinking is that Alcoholism is a depreciated term or an obsolete medical term, as is suggested in the article, then might it be more correct or appropriate for the article to be titled "Alcohol Abuse Syndrome" with searches for Alcoholism redirecting to the new title and with a clearer explaination about how 'alcoholism' is an obsolete term. Or better yet, rewrite the intro so that the move to the new term by the medical world is prompted by a suggestion from the WHO and may be underway, instead of jumping on thier bandwagon. That is something you need to read the entire intro for to understand. Maybe a name change for the article is something that needs to be discussed and debated among the 'club members' running the article. KTrimble ( talk) 21:13, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
I'm neither for nor against changing the name, but I think at minimum the article should discuss criticism of the current "model" or way of thinking about "alcohol abuse". The article as it is today suggests that there is no debate on the topic, that everything is obvious and objectively true, when the idea of "abusing" alcohol, especially the idea that it is a disease, is a social construction that shifts over time and depends on the morality of the day.
174.65.74.44 (
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I agree that the term Alcoholism has become somewhat archaic. The DSM has transitioned more towards Alcohol Use Disorders, since it encompasses a wider range of hazardous alcohol use, and the NIAAA and WHO also seems to favor the use of AUD.-- Gghanem8 ( talk) 08:37, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
The title change from 'Alcoholism' to 'Alcohol Use Disorders' seems sensible to me as well. - kslays ( talk • contribs) 21:09, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
I made a table about the typical alcohol content of alcoholic beverages Allegedly, links pointed to unreliable sites. Therefore, the table has been removed. Couldn't it reload if I took the links out of the cells? (I think it would be a good overview at the end of the article.) 12akd ( talk) 08:14, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
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Name | Beers | Wines | champagnes | vermouts | liqueurs | Metaxa (brandy-like) |
brandys (old names cognacs) |
whiskys | vodkas | pálinkas (brandy type) |
Volume percent | 3–12% [1] |
9–20% [2] |
9–20% [3] |
16–18% [4] |
20–45% [5] |
30–41% [6] |
30–50% [7] |
35–50% [8] |
37–55% [9] |
37,5–50% [10] |
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Name | gins | tequilas | sambucas (italian rumb type) |
cachaças (brazilian rum type) |
Cognac (french brandy type) |
rums | absinthes | Stroh rum (austrian rum type) |
Everclear | Spirytus |
Volume percent | 37,5–50% [11] |
38–40% [12] |
38–42% [13] |
38–80% [14] |
40% [15] |
40–70% [16] |
70–85% [17] |
80% [18] |
95% [19] |
96% [20] |
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Social Effects: Alcohol may begin, and starts out as a stimulant, but with more (alcohol) consumption, it becomes a depressant. 2601:8C3:8080:8320:91E3:C8BE:4FDC:65FB ( talk) 15:28, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
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Social Effects: Alcohol may begin, and starts out as a stimulant, but with more (alcohol) consumption, it becomes a depressant. 2601:8C3:8080:8320:91E3:C8BE:4FDC:65FB ( talk) 15:28, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
User:Saidmann, I wonder whether the not-quite-redundant sentence could be made clearer. It says:
These are different, but the difference is a bit subtle. Could we make it more explicit? (Also, the cited source is weak and 10 years old, so maybe we should find better sources.) WhatamIdoing ( talk) 18:01, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
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Change ‘Westearn’ to ‘Western’. Incorrect spelling. Red Wattlebird ( talk) 01:14, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
This article achieved Good Article status in 2010. I don't think it still qualifies, but I believe it can be brought back up to GA standards if a few editors devote some time and effort to the task. I posted an informal GA review on a sandbox page. If you can help improve this article to bring it back to GA standards that would be great. - Mark D Worthen PsyD (talk) (I'm a man—traditional male pronouns are fine.) 21:46, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
There is an active RfC underway on the Whisky talk page as to whether the "whisky" article will include links to articles about the effects of alcohol Specifically: Should the whisky article provide direct links to articles about the effects of ethanol on those who consume whisky? Here is a proposed sentence with hyperlinks: Some effects of whisky consumption are due to its alcohol content. See: Alcohol intoxication, Short-term effects of alcohol consumption, Long-term effects of alcohol, and Alcohol and health.
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Alcoholism IS recognized by the AMA as a disease. 96.242.142.8 ( talk) 18:13, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
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Within the genetics section please change...
"...have a significantly higher rate of alcoholism than average; risk factors such as cultural environmental effects e.g. trauma have been proposed to explain the higher rates.[92][93] The..."
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"...have a significantly higher rate of alcoholism than average; risk factors such as cultural environmental effects (e.g. trauma) have been proposed to explain the higher rates.[92][93] The..."
For grammar and readability purposes Gorylk24 ( talk) 00:31, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
1. Talbot (1989) observes that alcoholism in the classical disease model, 2.Johnson (1980) explores the emotional progression of the addict's response to alcohol. Can the writer help elaborate on Talbot and Jonson? and 3. the reference of [1] can not be accessed here, can you help? I'm now translating this artile into traditional Chinese. We do have a short writing in Chinese, but it's too short. I itend to have the whole article translated. Thanks. ThomasYehYeh ( talk) 11:13, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
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“Alcohol cessation treated with benzodiazepines” that’s a dangerous. Someone should edit that or add a warning Bobbeck13 ( talk) 12:29, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
The Research section was removed improperly after having been updated with considerable consultation and discussion and I have now reinstated it as it was. Please do not remove it again.
The section on Medication discussing The Sinclair Method should be removed because this is a commercial enterprise which is associated with Roy Escapa who runs a rehabilitation business using Naltrexone. There is already a reference to Naltrexone which has been approved for treatment of alcoholism. The entry also gives advice on dosage which is not permissible under Wiki rules and puts Wikipedia in breach of various prohibitions on advising on dosage of prescription medications issued by national medical supervisory bodies. It needs to be removed and if it is not, I will do so. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Burdenedwithtruth ( talk • contribs) 10:07, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
Alcoholism is not a scientific concept, yet it is presented here as such. It is defined by arbitrary rules that are rooted in hate speech that was designed to manipulate human beings to kill other human beings for the sake of profit. This is religious propaganda disguised as science. Alcoholism was invented for the sake of shaming human beings to maximize profit and glory in war. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Citizen127 ( talk • contribs) 13:44, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
The article is making assertions based on hate and social contructs. It's not my responsibility to prove its baseless assumptions wrong any more than it is my responsibility to prove that unicorns don't exist. Citizen127 ( talk) 05:49, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
In the diagnosis for ICD11, a symtomatic course of 3 months is now taken if you can correct this. 178.197.225.83 ( talk) 08:44, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
I noticed an editor, in this diff added the claim (without a reference actually backing up the claim) that Alcoholics Anonymous’s effectiveness is disputed. In light of the Cochrane 2020 report on Alcoholics Anonymous (and the 2016 Surgeon General’s report, etc.), I do not think there’s any real scientific doubt that AA has a small but positive effect, increasing abstinence from alcohol. SkylabField ( talk) 01:39, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
I have reverted a recent edit claiming AA is ineffective. While Cochrane Reviews are high quality reviews, the conclusions from a 2006 Cochrane review are superseded by the 2020 Cochrane review covering the same topic, as per WP:MEDDATE. Here is a reference for the more recent review (both the original review and a “distilled” version of its conclusions):
Current general scientific consensus is that AA has a small but significant positive effect treating alcoholism. SkylabField ( talk) 07:33, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
User @ JMacGinnis recently changed all instances of "alcoholism" to "alcohol use disorder" (except for the title). I vote to change it back since the article was written with the term "alcoholism" in mind and some of the changes result in poorly written phrases like "used to detect possible Alcohol Use Disorder". Any thoughts? Megaman en m ( talk) 12:21, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
Alcoholism and Alcohol Use Disorder are defined differently by physicians. Alcoholism reflects use of alcohol and/or any cross-tolerant sedative including barbiturates and benzodiazepines. Thus, an individual with alcoholism might have symptoms that include use of clonazepam but no alcohol per se. Alcohol Use Disorder, on the other hand, is defined within DSM-5, and is separate from Sedative Use Disorder (much to the annoyance of many in the field). So many of us who work in the field use the term alcoholism to refer to the generic issue, while we might diagnose alcohol or sedative use disorders in a specific patient chart. Drgitlow ( talk) 00:13, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
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Add under "Research" a sub-section on computational modelling. The sub-section might start: "More recently, in an attempt to overcome some of the challenges faced by existing diagnostic schemes, including their limited specificity and stability (see e.g. Rehm et al. 2013), to improve knowledge of the causal structure of alcohol use disorders and to find effective treatments, psychiatrists have been increasingly relying on computational modelling" (ref. Colombo, M. Computational Modelling for Alcohol Use Disorder. Erkenn (2022). https://doi.org/10.1007/s10670-022-00533-x) 85.148.130.84 ( talk) 13:28, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
The article is titled Alcoholism though that term, due to having many different imprecise definitions, see3ms to be generally avoided by researchers, governments, medical professionals, etc. and remains more an informal term used by laypeople. The Definition section though starts with defining "Misuse, problem use, abuse, and heavy use of alcohol" when maybe it would be better to start with the explanation that there is a lack of consensus as to how to define the term alcoholism so the researchers, medical experts, governments, etc prefer to use term like "Misuse, problem use, abuse, and heavy use of alcohol" to refer to improper use of alcohol, which may cause physical, social, or moral harm to the drinker. refer to improper use of alcohol, which may cause physical, social, or moral harm to the drinker. The we can explain the how the term alcoholism is used by lay people and why experts avoid the term these days. We can then delve more deeply into define concepts like "Misuse, problem use, abuse, and heavy use of alcohol" as used by medical professionals, researchers, and governments. The section currently includes a definition of "Moderate drinking" based only the U.S. Government's Dietary Guidelines for Americans which ignores other country's differing definitions of "Moderate drinking" (Wikipedia is supposed to reflect a international worldview not just a U.S. centric one). Also, we should at least summarize what evidence/rational are being used for such a definitions of "moderate drinking" where possible. Also, as the article on "Standard Drink" states, there is no consensus as to what constitutes a standard drink among governments/health orgs around the word. Thus whether any persons consumption of drinks per day or week is moderate or not depends on how one defines a "standard drink", especially with regard to beer which can significantly very in ABV, especially for craft/microbrews and "Small beers"/low-alcohol beers. Notcharliechaplin ( talk) 00:43, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
See any of the recent studies ( https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/03/220325122708.htm) or the discussion at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Human_body_diagrams Surgian ( talk) 13:29, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
From the page: *...research has found that over 50% of all suicides are associated with alcohol or drug dependence. This is believed to be due to alcohol causing physiological distortion of brain chemistry, as well as social isolation.*
No references are provided.
I suppose whoever authored these remarkable claims felt that their qualifications were sufficient to justify their contributions.
In response, I can only say that, it is *believed to be* the author is full of it. And, if we are going to keep track, it is *believed* furthermore that Elvis lives, that a 500-year old man saved all life on earth from extinction, and that certain television personalities can commune with the dead. 2601:242:4100:ED7:C4E7:AF62:A391:536 ( talk) 02:13, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
I’m going to make revisions to the lead section.
At time of writing, there are 6 long paragraphs that go into unnecessary detail. The first paragraph is awkward in the wordy way it tries to discuss the different definitions: https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Alcoholism&oldid=1176069961
For reference: /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Lead_section Merlin s orca 14:15, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
Alcoholism has not been a medical term for decades. It is now referred to as alcohol use disorder to reflect the fact that it is a spectrum and most people who drink excessively are not alcoholics. The page should be renamed. Mleonard85032 ( talk) 13:54, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
The maps of prevalesnce of alcoholim are clearly different yet have the same code/legend. Which one is the correct one ? 137.222.42.24 ( talk) 18:51, 13 November 2023 (UTC)