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Dear all, in Croatia on 28th and 29th December was happen two different earthquakes with followed lower earthquakes. This article speak about on 29th Decbmer not
28th December. Best regards,
Uspjeh je ključ života (
talk) 13:20, 29 December 2020 (UTC)reply
Dear all, you can use both dates in this article like on
hr.wiki but both earthquakes must be mention. Best regards,
Uspjeh je ključ života (
talk) 17:56, 29 December 2020 (UTC)reply
This article defines the earlier ones as foreshocks already. --
Joy [shallot] (
talk) 23:09, 29 December 2020 (UTC)reply
Again, an article is tarted up with the flags, most preceding useless pandering quotes from politicians, making a
WP:Quotefarm. Abductive (
reasoning) 15:12, 30 December 2020 (UTC)reply
I entirely agree, we should only include actual assistance, be it financial and/or in the form of rescue teams/equipment on the ground, rather than just fine words.
Mikenorton (
talk) 16:02, 30 December 2020 (UTC)reply
I agree, a brief look at
Wikipedia:WikiProject Earthquakes#Recognized content indicates that this list format with flags is not the standard for good earthquake articles. There are some good earthquake articles where there are tables and flags, but that's not the same as this. And the empty content complaint can be addressed under
WP:NOT#NEWS. --
Joy [shallot] (
talk) 18:35, 30 December 2020 (UTC)reply
I implemented the apparent consensus about the flags discussed here, but was met by reverts from a combative anonymous user. I don't know if they have any actual support, certainly until it's voiced here in anything resembling proper process, I don't consider these reverts valid and will continue to revert them as
WP:NOTHERE. --
Joy [shallot] (
talk) 15:41, 31 December 2020 (UTC)reply
I changed it to the ANSS coords, because the other figures were uncited, but I'm happy to go with those in the link given above, particularly as, in this case, they are explicit and don't have to be estimated off a map. Regarding the apparent differences that you mention, perhaps an e-mail/message to CSS would be worthwhile.
Mikenorton (
talk) 21:58, 31 December 2020 (UTC)reply
You're right, those coordinates don't match the map at all - I estimate about 45.47, 16.12 from the map.
Mikenorton (
talk) 14:57, 2 January 2021 (UTC)reply
A lot better, but still out by about 1 km to the WNW by my estimation.
Mikenorton (
talk) 16:31, 4 January 2021 (UTC)reply
I agree. But since their intent was to illustrate something on an area of over 1500 km2, a 1km error seems negligible enough. --
Joy [shallot] (
talk) 19:26, 4 January 2021 (UTC)reply
I wasn't suggesting that we didn't use it, just surprised to see any discrepancy.
Mikenorton (
talk) 12:27, 5 January 2021 (UTC)reply
Those intensities cited by usgs.gov are based on online reports, and they seem quite questionable to me. There should be some other, more reliable, source for that.
For example, how can an earthquake of 4.4 magnitude have an intensity of VI, and earthquake of 4.7 only IV, and both are in the same depth? — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
95.156.188.73 (
talk) 15:05, 7 January 2021 (UTC)reply
Most intensity data in earthquakes around the globe come from observations by individual members of the public. Where there are
seismometers, the direct observation of
peak ground velocity and
peak ground acceleration are normally combined with these more widespread observations to produce definitive intensity maps (
isoseismal maps). It's also worth remembering that there is no direct relationship between magnitude and intensity - local ground conditions are important.
Mikenorton (
talk) 22:13, 7 January 2021 (UTC)reply
I understand that, but I still think it would be more reasonable to rely on the reports from the Croatian Seismological Survey (
https://www.pmf.unizg.hr/geof/seizmoloska_sluzba/izvjesca_o_potresu) which are certainly more accurate. It doesn't make any sense to have media reports about an aftershock which caused panic, and that the intesity of that aftershock on this page is cited as II or III, based on a random online report on the usgs.gov. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
95.156.160.231 (
talk) 15:27, 8 January 2021 (UTC)reply
2022 review paper
Herak, Tomljenović et al have issued a review paper
[1] (in Croatian) with details about the focal mechanism, damages, aftershock characteristics, Petrinja fault system etc. There's also a summary on Index.hr
[2] (also in Croatian) with updates on features caused by the earthquake such as the Mečenčani sinkhole. This should be a fairly useful source for the article. DaßWölf 00:43, 9 January 2022 (UTC)reply