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Is Hakkinen's testing deal with McLaren something that is going to last through the season, or is he just doing one or a small handful of tests during the off season? If he's only doing one or two tests in the off season, does he really need to be listed as a test driver for the team in the 2007 season? The359 18:03, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
According to the FIA Entry List for 2007, Toro Rosso's drivers are not confirmed yet. Should Liuzzi and Speed be in the list here? PS:Sorry for my English.-- Fryant 19:46, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone have a view on whether pre-season testing belongs in this article? Personally, I think one would not expect specific reports of any test session to be included, so I think this is a level of detail that one would not expect to see in a season article. It is news certainly, but probably not encyclopaedic, although it could perhaps have an article of its own (if it must). Also, this does not necessarily relate to 2007 either since many teams were only running interim cars and engines and therefore this is perhaps post-2006 season testing anyway. (Edit: I notice a 2007 testing article has been created since the above comment) Jsydave 22:24, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
So, are we deleting 2007 Formula One season Testing or what? The359 01:48, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
On formula1.com the 22 July Nurburgring date is listed as the European GP, not the German GP (see here). This conflicts with the date listed as the German GP on the FIA release (see here). The Nurburgring website just lists it as "Formula 1." Any insight? Aldango 20:55, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
Looks like this ended up being the European GP due to naming and licensing issues! Aldango 23:18, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
Shouldn't the links in the 'constructor' column link to Renault F1 instead of Renault and Scuderia Ferrari instead of Ferrari, or at least a piped link? -- TheTall One 17:09, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
Is this column of the table even remotely relevant anymore, as Bridgestone supplies all of the teams? Surely we only need a mention in the opening section of the article about the change, rather than this redundancy. mpbx 10:03, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
Yes, look back to all previous seasons where there was only one supplier, the tyre suppliers are still there. It is relevent for historical purposes. ( Davesmith33 17:56, 17 January 2007 (UTC))
It should be mentioned that Renault recently left the GPMA. http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns18043.html —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Z Vengeance ( talk • contribs) 02:59, 21 February 2007 (UTC).
What du you think who will be the champion? -- 217.224.125.203 16:39, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
Will it be shown on TV broadcasts considering there'll only be 1 manufacturer? If they don't show then should we omit it on the tables? -- Howard the Duck 11:11, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
It never has been in the past when there has only been one manufacturer, but on the other hand I believe it should stay on Wikipedia just because all the other years where there has only been one supplier it shows who is the sole supplier. It's more for people looking back on the article in years to come. Davesmith33 17:33, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
I disagree, in fact I think we've already had this discussion and the consensus was for it to remain, for the reason I mentioned above, i.e. it's a common part of each table for all years previous so in order to keep a standard format there's no obvious reason for it to be removed. Davesmith33 12:32, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
Entrant | Constructor | Chassis | Engine | No | Drivers | No | Third driver | Test driver(s) |
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McLaren | MP4-21 | Mercedes FO 108S 2.4 V8 | 3 |
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Sorry, but that looks ridiculous. It would require changing every season page going back to the start of the world championship, where there was only one tyre manufacturer in order for there to a uniform look. If you do it on the 2007 season, you'll have to do it on all the others. Davesmith33 11:17, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
I suggest it's thrown to the F1 portal for further discussion, seeing as it's something that effects not just the 2007 season, but every year. Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Formula_One#Tyre_icons_when_there_is_only_one_manufacturer Davesmith33 17:18, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
where does it say about the spyker drivers swapping with Sutil in the 20 car and Albers in the 21 car. MotorSportMCMXC 21:30, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
The article used to say that the first car was going to run yellow and the second a red one. This just got changed. Theres no source cited for this, does anyone know which one it is? SlakaJ 21:14, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
Perhaps this is just me being picky (again) but for the table with the team's full name, chassis, drivers, test drivers, etc. Should we really have the reference for the driver next to their name? I can understand them being there during pre-season, to prove that they are going to be there, but do we really need them now seeing as all the seats have been confirmed? Can't we just uysed a single source to decrease the article size? (in terms of size in bytes)-- Phill talk Edits 10:40, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
As far as I know, the La Source hairpin hasn't actually been modified, only the bus-stop chicane. if anyone can find a source stating that the actual hairpin has been modified, it would be greatly appreciated. Manipe 19:58, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
It's already sourced from ITV-F1. http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=38756 Davesmith33 11:40, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
"Winning Constructor" does not refer to the constructor who walks away from the race with the most points. It refers to the team the winner of the race drove for. Precedent for this can be seen on the [ Formula One Season] page, specifically the China race. Renault left with 14 points. Ferrari finished with just 10. However, Ferrari is still listed as the winning constructor because a Ferrari won the race, not a Renault. The same applies here. E946 05:14, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
Since the season has already started, I think some major re-working should be done to this page, particular the rumours and speculation sections. I also propose that a season summary, perhaps referred to as an on-going summary, should be featured after the pre-season testing section, which itself needs extra information added for the 2007 pre-season testing. Ian X490 01:56, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
I just came across this in the official F1 website. It says its a new award for 2007 and the award will go to the driver who sets the most fastest laps over the course of the season. There is also a website about it DHL-Fastest-lap.com. Is this something worth mentioning in the article? Chris Ssk 18:26, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
In the table the field Starts should be 6 instead of 3, because each team has 2 cars and that means 6 starts, 2 for each race? Can I change it? 15.235.153.101
Whoever has been updating this page, Thank You!
I really have to question if the photos of the cars is really necessary on the drivers chart. The chart is already cramped as it is, and will become even more cramped when we have driver changes for various reasons as the season progresses. If people want pictures of the cars they could easily get them from the individual car's page. The359 19:07, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi, how many points for 1st, for 2nd, for 3rd etc etc. It is not in the article. - Culnacréann 16:55, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
Rather similar to the Bourdais stuff, but there was a rumour regarding Bruno Senna being given a run-out in an STR.. See AutoSport May 17, page 13. This went along with the rumour that Toro Rosso was for sale. Maybe this is a bit trivial and unimportant though.. (I'm not going to add it, cos I don't know if it should be added.. Opinions please) ALCUS36 20:36, 10 June 2007 (UTC) 20:35, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
I am kind of new to Formula 1, but do drivers get race winnings like in NASCAR or IndyCar? or are they just paid their salary after each race and that's it? I don't see this in any of your Formula 1 articles and as a new fan was just wondering.- Melo1522
I like the new table of qualifing what do you all think.- MotorSportMCMXC
Why exactly is Bourdais listed as a test driver for STR? He has tried for the team, but he's hardly done an actual testing work, nor is he actually employed by STR. I think he should be removed. The359 23:31, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
Since Bridgestone only produce two types of tyres during each GP weekend, i think it is possible to add the tyre option as here. But I'm quite doubt is that necessary, by among editors, and where should it put. Please give some comment. Thanks! -- Aleen f1 14:47, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
Not even a mention of the spy row? -- Howard the Duck 11:02, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
Car colors should be quoted or box colored with appropriate background color. Car color is specific to season like renault had different color in 2006 than 2007. Preferably in section
Constructors or
Constructors statistics. "
teams and drivers".
202.41.72.100 09:33, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
How'bout inserting images
in table of section
teams and drivers, with rowspan 2? can i go ahead? (Tyres column is redundant after season 2006. )
202.41.72.100 10:47, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
Looks not so good, but informative for people who watch on TV 202.41.72.100 12:52, 17 July 2007 (UTC) new, improved! seeking yes votes 202.41.72.100 06:35, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
No, the pictures are way too small for people to use - I wouldn't be able to tell you that's a Renault if it weren't for the "Renault F1" team name in the cell next to it. Not only that, but those pictures are too small and you can see they're been compressed too much for them to look tidy. -- Phill talk Edits Review this GA review! 13:16, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
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In my edit summaries I've put HUN GP, I meant TUR GP. Sorry for any confusion! chem_tom 15:04, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
SpeedTV's commentators made mention today that Honda has apparently decided to abandon the Honda RA107 for the rest of the season, and that during this weekend's British Grand Prix they're now running "last year's car". Considering how arbitrarily the definition of what each car is, should the Honda RA106 be added to the chart? I can certainly confirm that the car is at least running some of the RA107's aerodynamics, but I'd like to hear what others think of it all.
(Also, this happens to put another twist in the debate of whether or not Aguri is using an illegal car, especially if Aguri and Honda are now using the same car...) The359 18:08, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
Pattav2 12:17, 14 September 2007 (UTC)If you check on formula1.com it will say the news from the courts in Paris that Mclaren's points have gone to 0 due to the team having Ferrai documents. If someone could change please because I don't know how to edit tables. thankyou
What is happening?! I saw this on different pages but I can't explain the problem... Daniel7 01:04, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
the legend for DSQ has a black background while for EX it has not ;( —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.185.91.221 ( talk) 10:14, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
Your SineBot is working wrong! I have signed my comments using an option from my preferences. So it is a valid signature! Because of your bot, I can't update my comments, as it is resulting an edit conflict. I have to copy-paste my comment and try again. --Daniel7 16:12, 16 September 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Daniel77o ( talk • contribs)
I suggest addressing this at Wikipedia Talk: WikiProject Formula One before you continue, as changing the legend would necessitate a change in every F1 result table with an "EX" on Wikipedia. Majin Izlude talk 02:38, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
I believe that since McLaren ran the Hungarian GP under appeal, they actually score points as constructors. Only when they meet with the FIA Court will that appeal be decided and those points possibly taken away. I think the points chart should reflect this until the Court meets. The359 18:22, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
NO, they are not given trophy so they did not win constructors, so that field should be kept blank. Tikitiki-tikito 08:01, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
StuartDD ( t • c ) 19:17, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
The constructors points should remain in the article for two reasons:
Perhaps the best solution would be to put McLaren at the bottom of the constructors statistics table, but still with their points tally intact? -- Scjessey 17:29, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
(answering above question here to stop the indentation madness) The text of the WMSC Judgment (section 9.2) calls for "a fine of USD100 million (less any sum that would have been payable by Formula One Management Limited on account of McLaren’s results in the 2007 Constructors Championship had it not been excluded). This fine shall be payable within three months from the date of this Decision." It seems that it includes the points that would have been scored in the last four races as well, though that is not explicitly stated. Majin Izlude talk 08:33, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
Ten years ago Michael Schumacher was excluded from the championship due to his wreck on JV. In that article, he got put in the position where he would have finished the championship, with points total in tact, and position listed as DSQ rather than 2nd. Surely that should be the case for McLaren this year? Duke toaster 20:04, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
in the opening paragraphs the article currently states "ferrari clinched the championship at the Belgian Grand Prix" - i suggest this puts a little bias in the view that ferrari actually WON the championship at spa. perhaps something like "ferrari were GIVEN the constructors title..." or "ferrari were DECLARED constructor champions at ..."
if nobody objects i will change it Stuckster 13:18, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
"clinched" gives the impression to a reader with no knowledge of the current scenario (mclaren ejection from constructors champ) that after a close run contest ferrari "just" won the championship. I'm just saying different wording should be used, perhaps suggesting that because of mclaren ejection (mentioned in the previous sentence of the article), no other teams were in the position to compete. without speculating, i feel that in the future, ferraris constructors championship win will only be seen as a technicality, and that the opening of the article should imply this. (And i agree with your point golbez about not winning until after brazil!)
Stuckster 15:11, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
They have an equal number of points, wins and podium finishes, so why is Hamilton listed higher? Kie 14:57, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone else think that this article is too long? Some things just don't seem necessary, such as the driver and constructor statistics. Also, do we really need to include things like "On September 6, 2006, Renault confirmed Heikki Kovalainen as the team's replacement for Fernando Alonso"? I just think that sentences such as that are unnecessary because you can just deduce that fact from looking at the table. Sausageman 03:24, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
An article on BBC news, stated as BBC SPORT: Renault face McLaren spy charge has claimed that Renault has also been involved into the Spy Scandal that excluded McLaren out of this championship. Can someone please kindly have a look about it? -- Blackhawk charlie2003 14:57, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
Is it just me or does it seem like the results and standings are too far down in the article? You have to scroll half way down the page to get to the results table. If you look at the 2006 Formula One season, the results table is featured more prominently. In my opinion, the results table is the main reason for the page and should be listed above the Rule Changes & Pre-season Sections. Orsoni ( talk) 08:04, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
Why is the list of teams and drivers (first list) skipped number 13 as a driver? Is it always like that? Do they believe in superstition or why? Cunikm ( talk) 20:21, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
Why are drivers who took no part in the races being incuded in the table? -- Falcadore ( talk) 14:42, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
There is a reference made to an "OBN" network in the television section - I'd like to fix the DAB link that OBN refers to, but the only "OBN" television stations I find on WP are a small-time American outfit and a Tongan station that shut down in 2006 (so it can't be the one referred to here). Any more info you can give? Duncan1800 ( talk) 06:06, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
Someone has replaced all the Lewis Hamilton references with Tiger Woods, needs a revert I think
Dont worry, I reverted all of these back. Lmcintyre1 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lmcintyre1 ( talk • contribs) 14:29, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
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