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This conflicts with another Wikipedia page, Minoan civilization, where a chart states in 1700 the Middle Minoan period (MMIIIA) began. I have changed the 18th century BC page to reflect the chart. Also, this page refers to Minoan civilization as present in Ancient Greece, whereas it actually was based in Crete and was not Greek until after the fall of the Mycenaeans in the 1200s. music GUY GUY 14:35, 29 July 2011 (UTC) reply