This page is within the scope of the Wikipedia Help Project, a collaborative effort to improve Wikipedia's help documentation for readers and contributors. If you would like to participate, please visit
the project page, where you can join the
discussion and see a list of open tasks. To browse help related resources see the
Help Menu or
Help Directory. Or ask for help on your talk page and a volunteer will visit you there.Wikipedia HelpWikipedia:Help ProjectTemplate:Wikipedia Help ProjectHelp articles
If given permission by a person, are you allowed to edit that person's sandbox? I am helping somebody who is making a football season article in their sandbox and I think it would make it a lot easier.
Crystalpalace6810 (
talk) 18:38, 3 August 2022 (UTC)reply
Sure, as long as, if/when the text is re-added to the article, it is properly attributed, either by using the page move function or otherwise (see
Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia). Graham87 03:23, 4 August 2022 (UTC)reply
Draft:Sandbox
Why exactly is "Draft:Sandbox" in draftspace? It just leads to confusion as it makes people think "oh this is the place for me to write my draft" and hten when they go back to work on it more, they find that either the sandbox has been cleared or someone else has added junk to it (yes, junk, as that is what's usually added to the sandbox page). ―
Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 12:57, 3 November 2022 (UTC)reply
As it says on the see also link, it was created for testing with VisualEditor. I don't know if that reasoning applies as much now though. Graham87 14:42, 3 November 2022 (UTC)reply
See also link? Where would I find that? ―
Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 15:18, 3 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Oops, I mean the see also section of this page. Graham87 12:31, 4 November 2022 (UTC)reply
This
edit request to
Module:Sandbox has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request.
Please implement the starter code I put in
Module:Sandbox/sandbox. I believe having some starter code would be really helpful for new users who need to get started with testing.
The penultimate (second to last) sentence of the lead ['lede'] section of "
Wikipedia:About the sandbox" says:
For easy access, there is a link labeled "sandbox" at the top right of every page between the Talk and Preferences links.
I think what we might have here, is ... a sentence that used to be true, but now ... things have changed, and it may not be [exactly] true any more.
After reading that sentence, (the one "blockquote"d above) I recalled that some time recently (well ... less than a year ago, iirc) there was some kind of "overhaul" of how pages are displayed, on the English
Wikipedia. (At least, for some users ... such as me.) (I usually use a laptop or desktop PC for
Wikipedia.)
I took a look at some example
Wikipedia pages, (including e.g. my own "User:" page), and I found that:
[F1] In most cases, the "custom" of having a link to a "Talk:" page (usually displayed as an ['
underlined'] hyperlink, and without any colon [":"] being appended) up at the top, is still being followed.
(but if we are talking about the hyperlink to a "Talk:" page that is below the title, which in turn is below some other stuff, then ... the part about "at the top" is not 100% right; plus, that one -- the one that is below the title, -- seems to be much closer to the left than it is to the right).
...and, if we are talking about the hyperlink to a "Talk:" page that can be accessed via a pull-down menu that has entries 'such as'
User page
Talk page
Sandbox
Preferences
Beta
etc.
then ... well ... that one is (sorta) "accessible" via a method that is closely "involved with" [QUOTE:] << "the top right of every page" >>, but it requires the reader to know what s/he is doing, and first click on that little "head and shoulders" icon (with a little "letter Vee" [or "down arrow"] next to it) at the top right ... and, my guess is that ... some users are more familiar than others, with the recent changes. (and -- perhaps -- more familiar with the recent changes than I am.)
[F2] However, the hyperlink to the ["Special"] "Preferences" page, is WAY less omnipresent than [iirc] it used to be. When I tried to find it today, I first found a ("Tools") pull-down menu that started out with stuff like (under "Actions") entries for "Read", "Edit", "View History", "Watch", and "Move". It actually has 3 sections, and I eventually found an entry for "
Special pages" down in the second section (the third [blue] link, under "General"). Eventually (later) I found out that one could go [more] directly to "
Special:Preferences", without having to go there via the "
Special pages" page ... if one clicks on that little "head and shoulders" icon at the top right. However, (as I may have mentioned already), I am still getting used to the "page layout" changes ... and there may even be some stuff that I need to re-learn, ... because it has been forgotten, after being learned.
Bottom Line
In my opinion, that sentence that says
For easy access, there is a link labeled "sandbox" at the top right of every page between the Talk and Preferences links.
was WAY more helpful (not to mention "correct")
in the past, than it is now.
I am not suggesting "rolling back" the recent "page layout" changes, but IMHO if we are keeping them, then that sentence that is now kinda out-of-date (less "up to date" than I would prefer)
should be looked at, and some changes should probably be made to it.
@
Mike Schwartz: Wikipedia's new skin,
Vector 2022, was indeed recently implemented and has made several changes to the site's layout. As it says on
user page, I'm blind and use a screen reader and am therefore not in any position to update the text. I've commented out the offending sentence for now but I'll post
a question at the help desk about this matter. Graham87 14:54, 27 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Thank you. I probably did not realize that the old wording could still be correct "for some users". I think this solution -- (see the DIFF at
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Wikipedia:About_the_sandbox&diff=next&oldid=1146886169 e.g.) -- is a good one. It is better than before, and it still "takes care of" those users for whom the old wording is still applicable, and ... even if (even though) some readers might "stumble" a little, in [initially] trying to figure out how to interpret the new part about << "on a user icon menu" >>, ... at least they will be on the right track, and they will probably be able to either
@
Mike Schwartz: I have tweaked it a little to make it easier to find.
[2] Our mobile version
[3] also has a user icon menu.
PrimeHunter (
talk) 02:22, 28 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Especially in the 2022 Vector skin, the sandbox header is far too big. Barely four lines of text can be visible upon loading the page, compared with 15 lines of boilerplate. Is it any wonder that new users will want to remove the header? This issue of having to scroll the page up and down to save text and see what you have written makes editing Wikipedia seem much more difficult than it needs to be.
Kk.urban (
talk) 19:15, 9 August 2023 (UTC)reply
I agree, that header is a mess.
Catalk to me! 13:46, 12 November 2023 (UTC)reply
Header should be converted to an editnotice IMO.
Mach61 (
talk) 15:58, 13 November 2023 (UTC)reply
Testingand experimentation.
Graham87 (
talk) 04:51, 18 February 2024 (UTC)reply
Custom Countries
Am I allowed to create my own custom wikipedia pages in the sandbox? for custom countries and such, not offensive or promotive in any way.
RazorPantherz (
talk) 00:07, 19 April 2024 (UTC)reply