Would it be possible to get some response here? The problem continues, and I would like to know if I need to take a different approach to solve it. Thanks,
Looie496 (
talk) 16:22, 11 June 2011 (UTC)reply
Despite warnings and blocks, user continues to add multiple related links, and engaged in editwarring.Added--
Hu12 (
talk) 12:55, 16 June 2011 (UTC)reply
Note: The IPs are less clear, some are 'SPA' (but on a volatile IP that does not say too much - they may have hopped to a new IP). There are in the COIBot report many other IPs who added the link, many seem to have a 'music / film focus' in their edits, but it is unclear whether they are beloning here. Same here, there may be IPs which are accidentally SPA on a page which link them to this. Note also that a lot of the IPs here, and in the COIBot report, have deleted edits, which sometimes snowball to other SPA accounts (some are incorporated below), for the IPs it is difficult to see whether it is accidental or whether they are part of this.
Users that are spamming / have only edited one single page, generally for only a short time)
Kate MacGarry, which is related to
Chicks on Speed, for which we already have two other SPAs .. MarkScottWood also links others to Kate MacGarry by adding the external link katemacgarry.com
Note, all these accounts are somewhere in their edits linking to dazeddigital.com (or SPAs on articles where others relate them to dazeddigital.com), and many seem to be only editing their 'own' article. This reeks like impersonating sockpuppetry. Much of the content is still there, and seems to have been adopted properly. But it feels wrong.
I blocked yesterday an editor for 31 hours after they clearly showed to know that they had a final warning ... Leaving this here for further review. --
Dirk BeetstraTC 12:55, 6 April 2011 (UTC)reply
Maybe I am turning paranoia here .. but is it coincidence that there are on these articles so many 'throw away like' accounts active? --
Dirk BeetstraTC 08:07, 7 April 2011 (UTC)reply
Its not paranoia, is mass corporate promotion. AnOthermag.com, AnOther Magazine and AnOther Man are part of the publishing group the Dazed Group, alongside Dazed & Confused and DazedDigital.com. We Ran into something like this previously,
Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Spam/2007_Archive_Nov_1#Dennis_Publishing_Spam-2, albeit much larger... --
Hu12 (
talk) 16:57, 7 April 2011 (UTC)reply
Created a typical page like these socks do with a reference to dazeddigital.com. I did delete the page, was not 100% sure if it was this set of users, but today:
—Jeremy v^_^vComponents:
VSM 20:28, 17 April 2011 (UTC)reply
May as well add lurkmoarpedia.com and encyclopediaerratica.com, since both are similar forks of ED.
Resolute 19:54, 18 April 2011 (UTC)reply
Guys, I'm not seeing a need to add these to the blacklist at this time, especially given the contentious article
Encyclopedia Dramatica is fully-protected -
Alison❤ 02:44, 20 April 2011 (UTC)reply
Trolls are already using encyclopediadramatica.ch to harass MONGO, however. Note Cthee cthuh's contributions. —Jeremy v^_^vComponents:
VSM 19:25, 20 April 2011 (UTC)reply
There are also legal issues, including criminal ones. Take a look at "User:Meepsheep/The_Bieber_Facebook_Project" on encyclopediadramatica.ch (ed.ch for short) for an example. We have impersonation, fraudulent promises, and publication of private information and photos belonging to children 13 years old and younger. This "Meepsheep" person is also a sysop and content manager on ed.ch. Social Security numbers have also been posted to one article. Combine this with the other concerns. encyclopediadramatica.com is on the meta spamlist already, so why not include a website that tries to duplicate the original. The original ED and ed.ch had and do
target Wikipedians. Perhaps we should only allow links to the ed.ch Main_Page like we did to encyclopediadramatica.com? --
Michaeldsuarez (
talk) 15:58, 21 April 2011 (UTC)reply
Filed at Meta. —Jeremy v^_^vComponents:
VSM 22:57, 21 April 2011 (UTC)reply
Hey guys, this is Meepsheep (the one listed above). First off, I would appreciate it if you did not speak so negatively of my work. Each and every one of those kids deserves to be on that page. Second, I would like you to show me where ED encourages attacks on Wikipedia. Sure there is documentation of vandals (such as myself) but we do not encourage personal attacks. If you do find any instances of this, post it here and I will deal with it properly as I am the caretaker of the Wikipedia portal. --
MS ED.CH (
talk) 05:57, 23 April 2011 (UTC)reply
The conversation there appears as if there's no consensus to blacklist on Meta. Perhaps reconsideration for the list here is in order. ~
Amatulić (
talk) 23:24, 3 May 2011 (UTC)reply
Fortunately things seem to have quietened down a bit, but there are still clear
WP:ELNEVER and
WP:LINKLOVE issues with this site. At the very least, it should be on the XLinkBot revert list.--♦IanMacM♦(talk to me) 15:55, 4 May 2011 (UTC)reply
Links to ed.ch should not be blocked. It's telling that the russian wikipedia's article on encyclopediadramatica has a link to .ch and there is no controversy on the subject, whereas the site www.lurkmoarpedia.ru (the russian equivalent of ed) is constantly being put up for deletion as "not notable". We need to put aside any person beef we have with the site or it's users, and focus on making the article a valuable source of information. --
852derek852 (
talk) 08:51, 14 May 2011 (UTC)reply
No one is trying to put the ED article up for deletion. The blacklist is meant for protection, not "beefs". --
Michaeldsuarez (
talk) 12:30, 14 May 2011 (UTC)reply
I agree with everything you've just said. However, I question the motives behind adding ed.ch to the blacklist, as none of the non english wikipedias seem to have any problem with it.
852derek852 (
talk) 00:00, 21 May 2011 (UTC)reply
That isn't particularly relevant. The non-English Wikipedias are more or less independent communities that set their own standards and best practices. Added to XLinkBot for now. ~
Amatulić (
talk) 16:57, 1 June 2011 (UTC)reply
New info
I would like to note some new info that has come up in regards to the matter. First off, in terms of the
Meta blacklist, it can be seen that Wnt is easily the most vocal of the two opposers to the addition of ed.ch to the blacklist. It has since been discovered that he is [http:// encyclopediadramatica.ch/User:Wnt very involved] in terms of the site and thus, his vote should be taken with the caution it deserves.
Secondly, in terms of editing at the
Encyclopedia Dramatica article, I got into a dispute with
User:H644444 about two days ago. About 15 minutes after that dispute occurred, [http:// encyclopediadramatica.ch/Silver_Seren this page] was created on ed.ch about me by [http:// encyclopediadramatica.ch/User:H64 User H64]. I think we can all see the connection here. Furthermore, this user appears to be one of the ten admins on that site, which brings into question that we are likely to have a meatpuppetry event going on and any new users (in terms of being new accounts) that comment here or at Meta in opposition to adding this link are potential ed.ch members that are working together for their own ends.
Lastly, I would like to point out that last time I checked, which was immediately before submitting this, the URL www.encyclopediadramatica.com is still on the spam blacklist. Obviously, the reasons for why it was added were valid and it should be equally obvious that, if so many people are saying that ed.ch is the same as ED and has the same content, then the same reasons would apply to it, if not even more so due to reasons partially pointed out in the discussion above.
SilverserenC 07:06, 7 June 2011 (UTC)reply
Agree, there are clear signs of meatpuppetry here. The attack page on Silver seren is one of the reasons why encyclopediadramatica.com went on the spam blacklist in October 2006.--♦IanMacM♦(talk to me) 07:21, 7 June 2011 (UTC)reply
Clarification: The creation of ED pages on users in general was the reason for its addition to the blacklist, not the addition of a page on me. I didn't have a page on myself on ED four years ago. Don't want to get people confused, Ian. ;3
SilverserenC 07:25, 7 June 2011 (UTC)reply
Found this. Not sure it means much though. http:// encyclopediadramatica.ch/Encyclopedia_Dramatica?oldid=169199#Is_ED_racist.2Fhomophobic.3F (yes, its sfw) --
JV Smithy (
talk) 01:38, 8 June 2011 (UTC)reply
This isn't about offensiveness; it's about protecting individuals. ED.ch hosts street addresses, phone numbers, Email addresses, nude photos, list of relatives, and more. This is about privacy and providing some security against
harassment. Here's a better link: http:// encyclopediadramatica.ch/Special:MostLinkedCategories – Category:People is the most used category for articles. ED.ch has more material on individuals than it does for memes and Internet culture. I think Meepsheep (an ED.ch sysop and
self-described ED.ch spokesperson) displayed the attitude of ED.ch users the best:
"Each and every one of those kids deserves to be on that page." --
Michaeldsuarez (
talk) 02:39, 8 June 2011 (UTC)reply
Back in April 2011, I believed that it was a mistake not to put ed.ch on the spam blacklist. There is clear evidence of harassment/outing on the site, so it is now time to think again on this issue. Anyone saying "leave ed.ch alone" should be asked if they are involved with the site.--♦IanMacM♦(talk to me) 04:26, 8 June 2011 (UTC)reply
Don't be a hypocrite Micheal, also, the spam blacklist is for spam. Is The Wikipedia Review blacklisted? Wikipedia-watch? What about Blogger? If you have a problem with something someone has done on ED, bring it up to me. If I can fix it I will (Like I did in this situation), don't blacklist the whole site over a couple of users. In before
WP:ATA. --
Zaiger (
talk) 01:58, 18 June 2011 (UTC)reply
This blacklist is for "spam" only in name. It is for listing anything to prevent abuse. ~
Amatulić (
talk) 22:04, 22 June 2011 (UTC)reply
It's been long enough
It's been two months and nothing has been happening on Meta. The last reply to the Meta section was on May 14th and nothing has been done. There have been
twoattempts in the past day to add a direct link to the .ch site. I fear that .ch users may be gearing up for another push on the article to include a direct link, now that we have enough reliable sources that it is feasible to say the existence of the fork in the article itself. What should be done here?
SilverserenC 07:29, 22 June 2011 (UTC)reply
Added. There is ample justification already written on the meta discussion to blacklist the domain there. Because that is not happening, it is now listed it here, pending a decision there. ~
Amatulić (
talk) 22:04, 22 June 2011 (UTC)reply
Repeatedly added to many (and unrelated) articles by anons from a large IP range and numerous SPAs who ignore repeated reversion and warning from both bots and people.
DMacks (
talk) 14:39, 20 June 2011 (UTC)reply
Possible sex websites. May contain malware. Uploaded every video to YouTube. They are inappropriate and should be blacklisted to prevent spamming. --
Kungfu2187 (
talk) 02:44, 20 June 2011 (UTC)reply
Do you have diffs to prove that (some) of these domains were spammed?
MER-C 08:45, 22 June 2011 (UTC)reply
No response => Declined.
MER-C 10:33, 30 June 2011 (UTC)reply
This link is regular added to
Cascading Style Sheets, was also added previously by an IP (didn't find it with a fast search...).
mabdul 13:06, 28 June 2011 (UTC)reply
Appears the user was
blocked and ial.goldthread.com was added shortly after this report was made. Marking as Completed--
Hu12 (
talk) 17:06, 1 June 2011 (UTC)reply
timstvshowcase.com likely fails
WP:ELNO as it appears to be a fansite that basically just recaps a show and has links to various sites (including Wikipedia) and DVD info. The link was initally added by
Hoosiertim (who may have a possible COI based on the site's name and the user name) back in early April. After being warned for spamming by
Ckatz and myself,
50.90.98.177 began adding the site to various television show articles again. Neither Hoosiertim nor the IP have done anything in the article space except to add this link. IP and named account are likely the same person based on the way the link is added (no asterick is used and both users place the link above all others). IP was given a final warning today but given the history, I don't think the warning will be heeded. Pinkadelica♣ 23:58, 4 May 2011 (UTC)reply
Appears to have stopped for now. Seems this is now Stale, however if continues, please report back. Thanks for the report.--
Hu12 (
talk) 16:51, 1 June 2011 (UTC)reply
Site being mass-added to numerous articles. For diffs of spamming, see
User:H2okatcher's contributions, especially those occuring on July 6. Some of the other edits appear to be minor corrections, but any edits that introduce content of any kind involve this website. -
SudoGhost™ 17:10, 6 July 2011 (UTC)reply
Since being informed of reporting the editor and the site here, the editor has made no attempts to have any discussion of any kind (100% of his edits are to articles), and he continues to add the site to various articles. Another editor (likely a sock) has arrived to insert the same website. I have added the name above. -
SudoGhost™ 18:24, 6 July 2011 (UTC)reply
Defer to
Whitelist for adding specific pages to articles. This isn't blacklisted here, it's blacklisted on
m:Spam-blacklist. ~
Amatulić (
talk) 17:42, 1 June 2011 (UTC)reply
I searched the spam-blacklist archives and unable to find any entries that pertain to cypress. Requesting the domain be removed from
m:Spam-blacklist.
Codepro (
talk) 22:20, 1 June 2011 (UTC)reply
One report
here, another
here. Hope this helps. --
CliffC (
talk) 22:33, 1 June 2011 (UTC)reply
How many of these past links are spam vs well meaning editors attempting to link to a large website which provides a lot of technical information? --
Tothwolf (
talk) 07:38, 13 June 2011 (UTC)reply
Thanks, the second link helps. Has anyone contacted the company to see if they can deal with the individual behind this? I can't imagine Cypress wishing to harm their public image in this way. --
Tothwolf (
talk) 01:04, 14 June 2011 (UTC)reply
I believe this is the responsibility of some Indian SEO subcontractor (see the spam report I linked to). We have no means to verify Cypress claims of firing said subcontractor and that their new SEO won't do the same thing. We do not consider on-wiki requests to delist domains from their owners.
MER-C 08:17, 16 June 2011 (UTC)reply
Not done I can't imagine what purpose the link would serve in any article, as it doesn't meet
WP:Reliable sources guidelines. Wikipedia is not a travel planner. OhNoitsJamieTalk 16:04, 6 June 2011 (UTC)reply
Comment Requester went straight from here to spam
Galápagos Islands with a link to galapagos-travel-advisor.com --
CliffC (
talk) 17:19, 6 June 2011 (UTC)reply
Both domains are related, by Registration name and Organisation. --
Hu12 (
talk) 15:17, 7 June 2011 (UTC)reply
Infibeam.com is an electronic commerce company based in India that has been blacklisted for reference link inclusion in Wikipedia articles. Infibeam has emerged as one of the major brands in the Indian ecommerce Industry and has been blacklisted due to promotional attempts by previous employees. It would be great if the global audience gets to know about the company that made India's first eBook Reader or the company that has emerged as one of the top 5 digital brands in India. Kindly remove the site from your Blacklists or let me know how this can be done. Thanks
Articleonline (
talk) 08:21, 17 June 2011 (UTC)—
115.119.157.50 (
talk •
contribs) has made
few or no other edits outside this topic. The preceding comment was edited at 08:38, 24 June 2011 (UTC) by anon IP 115.119.157.50.reply
Considering the
External Links policy, the site is an ecommerce portal and the prime purpose of an ecommerce portal is to sell merchandise online. This cannot be changed. The site does not sell any objectionable material nor does it indulge in any objectionable advertising. There are other sites like Amazon and Flipkart which are in the same field and sell products online. Wikipedia is not being used as a platform for promotion of the site. however seeing the site in the blacklist prevents users from bringing the site reference into articles related to the Indian ecommerce Industry. It would be great if these facts are considered.
115.119.157.50 (
talk) 06:38, 25 June 2011 (UTC)reply
getselfesteem.net removal
The following discussion is an archived report. Please do not modify it. Subsequent reports should be made in a new section.
Hi! I would like to request the removal of getselfesteem.net from the blacklist, and this is why: GetSelfEsteem.net is a non-promotional and a non-profitable website with a vast reservoir of high-end information regarding self-esteem issues and how to deal with them (In fact, the big article on self-esteem has helped thousands of people to overcome this issue, while hundreds of courses and ebooks couldn't help them). Also, the website contains a lot of valuable information about Optimism and self confidence. All in all, getselfesteem.net is a very high quality website that is purely dedicated to help people around the world to feel better about themselves and to lead a more successful and fulfilling life. The articles on the website touch the technical AND the spiritual aspects of self esteem, and offer countless proven ways of how to deal with them, and everything is for free, for the greater good of mankind! Thanks.— Preceding
unsigned comment added by
89.138.182.35 (
talk •
contribs)
Not done A non-notable blog does not meet our criteria for
WP:Reliable sources, and thus would not be useful for the encyclopedia. Article was spammed numerous times by IPs, all geolocating to Israel. OhNoitsJamieTalk 15:24, 22 June 2011 (UTC)reply
Wait, so now it's an Anti-Israeli thing? :\ — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
217.132.49.11 (
talk) 11:17, 23 June 2011 (UTC)reply
What part of the criteria exactly? Also, the article was on the page for over a month until some user removed it and replaced it with his article that wasn't as near as good and was selling self-help courses. I then reposed the article again and again but it was removed after only a few hours without any real reason (again, the article was on wikipedia for over a month). — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
89.138.182.35 (
talk) 15:28, 22 June 2011 (UTC)reply
Not gonna happen. Spam report
here seals the deal. --
CliffC (
talk) 18:29, 22 June 2011 (UTC)reply
In addition to the IP's appearing to be from the same range as the abuse
[12], suggesting that "it's an Anti-Israeli thing" is inapropriate, incorrect and wholey vexatious. closed--
Hu12 (
talk) 16:46, 23 June 2011 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The guy/girl have a point: Israel's biggest internet provider is Netvision. All of netvision's IPs begins with either 217 or 89, so yeah, it DOES look like just another anti-Israeli thing. What YOU are doing is inappropriate, and I'm very disappointed with Wikipedia's editors. ~ Emil, Jerusalem
al-moharer.net removal
This was previously on the Arabic Wikipedia blacklist (I requested a removal and it has been removed). I'm not sure why it was listed in the first place (my theory is that it is blocked as it is a
Batthist website and some
De-Ba'athification minded people didn't like it) but please remove it as I want to use it as a reference in the
Great Mosque of al-Nuri (Mosul) article.--
Aa2-2004 (
talk) 09:15, 28 June 2011 (UTC)reply
Was added because of
this. I'm a bit reluctant to de-list the entire domain, however if there is a specific link you'd like to use as a citation, please post it here withought the http:// part. --
Hu12 (
talk) 13:43, 28 June 2011 (UTC)reply
Talk about double standards, there are hundreds of websites which promote terrorism against Arabs but they don't get black listed. Anyhow this is the specific link www.al-moharer.net/moh277/ghadanfari277.htm (its just a page about the mosque's steeple).--
Aa2-2004 (
talk) 15:01, 28 June 2011 (UTC)reply
Thanks. I was already aware of this and I also prefer english sources (in english wikipedia). It's just I havent found an alternative for this little fact I wanna insert.--
Aa2-2004 (
talk) 17:01, 28 June 2011 (UTC)reply
The following discussion is an archived report. Please do not modify it. Subsequent reports should be made in a new section.
I don't know how or when the site was blacklisted. We are the largest site in support of the TV show South of Nowhere. We publish exclusive interviews and news from the producer, writers, and cast in addition to hosting fan activities like a forum and fan fiction. I see there is another news + fan site listed in the External Links. We are no different than that site. I see not only this domain but many of my other domains at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Spam-blacklist/log I suspect our sites, including l-word.com, which is a very large, very trusted news + fan site for the tv show The L Word, were suggested for blacklisting by an unhappy former site member. I'd appreciate any help or guidance. Thank you
Myfandoms (
talk) 20:10, 6 July 2011 (UTC)Jackyreply
"An unhappy forum site member"?
Oh please.User:Hu12 is a trusted, veteran editor and no stranger to dealing with spam on Wikipedia. Given the extensive spamming (and not helped at all my the blatant misrepresentation of the case), Not done. OhNoitsJamieTalk 20:42, 6 July 2011 (UTC)reply
A few aditional things; The nature of Wikipedia means that you can't make a convincing argument based on what other links in articles do or don't exist; because there's nothing stopping anyone from adding any link to any article. Plenty of links exist that probably shouldn't, conversly many links don't exist that probably should. So just pointing out that a link exists in an article doesn't prove that your link should also exist. Additionaly, "We are the ..", "We publish...", " We are no ..."...we do not remove domains from the spam blacklist in response to site-owners' requests. Instead, we de-blacklist sites when trusted, high-volume editors request the use of blacklisted links because of their encyclopedic value in support of our encyclopedia pages. In addition, this site is a fansite which is a
Link normally to be avoided and fails Wikipedias specific requirements of our
External Links policy,
Verifiability Policy and
Reliable Source guidelines. Lastly, I am neither a former or current member of any of those sites. Wholey a false and deceptive attempt at a removal rationale. Closing this as vexatious.--
Hu12 (
talk) 15:38, 7 July 2011 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
I would like to see this site removed from this list. It is the world's largest Online resource for information on Camp X and it belongs to the world's leading expert and largest collector on the subject. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Dtcraig (
talk •
contribs) 19:24, 12 July 2011 (UTC)reply
Defer to
Whitelist. This was blocked in December 2009 for spamming by a persistent spammer. The size of the site or who owns it isn't really relevant to the reason for listing. The only article on Wikipedia that would require a link to this site would be
Camp X, and for that, you may request that a specific page to be whitelisted. If you want to whitelist just the home page, use www.camp-x.com/index.htm in your request. ~
Amatulić (
talk) 19:42, 12 July 2011 (UTC)reply
Nationmaster.com has a reasonable wikipedia article about it
NationMaster.
It has a favourable rating on mywot.com [
[13]].
It would be useful as a source to which citation references can be attributed across various articles.
Why was it blacklisted?
Crowne (
talk) 08:23, 12 July 2011 (UTC)reply
Declined - Only the encyclopedia subdirectory of
http://www.nationmaster.com is blacklisted, that portion of the site is largely a mirror of en.wiki content which was regularly being used by well meaning new users to reference Wikipedia articles.. --
Versageek 19:23, 11 July 2011 (UTC)reply
Fair enough. Its good to know the reason for the black-listing.
Are the reasons for black-listing kept in a list somewhere, or is it left as knowledge-in-the-head.
I tried searching, before proposing, but I couldn't find any discussion on it.
Crowne (
talk) 22:23, 11 July 2011 (UTC)reply