Per a discussion on the whitelist, I have set-up archiving here as well. Threads will be archived after 2 weeks. Both addition and removal sections will now go into one archive, by month, and will not be split anymore by 'discussion type'. Discussions however can still be found by the usual tracking methods.
I hope this will clear out this page a bit faster. --
Dirk BeetstraTC 05:38, 1 August 2016 (UTC)reply
Links repeatedly as a "reference" in random situations where it is clearly unrelated to the text it is associated with. Blatant
WP:REFSPAMming.
Deli nk (
talk) 13:47, 1 August 2016 (UTC)reply
@
217.250.176.171:, see the conversation
here for why the "$$$$$$-technology.com" websites are on WP:BLACKLIST. I believe it should remain on the blacklist.
Scotteaton92 (
talk) 19:52, 28 July 2016 (UTC)reply
@
217.250.176.171: - per Scotteaton92. Ongoing and continuous spamming by the holding company over many, many years. Specific links for which there is absolutely no replacement can be whitelisted. Here Declined. --
Dirk BeetstraTC 04:56, 3 August 2016 (UTC)reply
How can the site be useful
To create an article of the founding Vice-chancellor Sadruddin Ahmed Chowdhury ({domain}/founder-vice-chancellor/). He recently
died.
Why it should not be blacklistedSylhet International University is a notable private university in Bangladesh. It is their official website.
@
Ravensfire:Declined, not blacklisted locally, Defer to
Global blacklist to request global removal, or Defer to
Whitelist to ask for local whitelisting of specific links. --
Dirk BeetstraTC 08:04, 3 August 2016 (UTC)reply
Edited the above to make clear it's the official website for the company that's been blacklisted. —
me_
and 12:40, 28 July 2016 (UTC)reply
I've now found the log entry, at
MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist/log/2015#July 2015 – it turns out the full list ends in December 2014 for no obvious reason. Anyway, it seems the pages were blacklisted because of the 2015 SPI I linked to above.
I really don't think this should have been blacklisted; some pages under this domain have definitely been used for refspam, but the domain as a whole is absolutely of use to the project. Indeed, the couple of bits of refspam I've looked at are to sources that would potentially be useful had they been placed more appropriately, e.g. information from a major healthcare provider about knee surgery.
Plus, the site was added to the blacklist on 22 July, at a time when there were valid links within the
BMI Healthcare article to bmihealthcare.co.uk. That looks like a direct breach of point 6 in the lede of the admin instructions at
Wikipedia:Spam-blacklisting.
(I've just added 2015 and 2016 to
the full blacklisting log, which will hopefully prevent other people being tripped up in the same way I was.) —
me_
and 17:31, 2 August 2016 (UTC)reply
@
Me and:Declined. Seen the size of the SPI that precipitated this blacklisting (which is not in the too far past), and seen there are only few different links that are of use, I am not sure whether this will have wide use on Wikipedia. What is needed for
BMI Healthcare can be solved with 2 whitelisted links, and a thirds one to me seems somewhat questionable in whether it is needed. Defer to
Whitelist for those specific links on this domain. --
Dirk BeetstraTC 08:03, 3 August 2016 (UTC)reply
@
Beetstra: You cite the size of the SPI as a reason for keeping this site on the blacklist, but I'm not sure how that's relevant: the SPI as a whole is massive, but there are only seven links to bmihealthcare.co.uk that were added by the socks, and all of that more than a year ago.
The requirements at the top of this page for adding to the blacklist are that the site does not have "any validity to the project"; that's clearly not the case here. It also requires that "all links [be] removed from articles and discussion pages before blacklisting", which did not happen – there are three articles with valid and appropriate links to this site:
BMI Healthcare,
General Healthcare Group and
Adrian Newland. This site was evidently added to the blacklist without following the proper process.
@
Me and: The links were added as one means of stopping/slowing down the disruption, and the additions by the sock were significantly less than a year ago. The disruption went on at least until a couple of months ago (obviously, this website could not be used anymore). There are three places where overall roughly three links are being used while the 6 of the socks used it on 11 other places (for as far as I can detect), all of which are removed (legitimate use is not removed, that would be vandalism).
Seeing the amount of disruption (even if only looking at this one link; at least 6 socks, 11 edits) and the current small legitimate use I would really suggest that we whitelist the links that are now in use, and see whether there is a large influx of more whitelist requests. If that happens, we can revisit this one. --
Dirk BeetstraTC 09:13, 3 August 2016 (UTC)reply
Two connected sites (see
this) spammed by multiple IPs on multiple articles. I have removed all links I found but they will no doubt try again.
Thomas.W talk 07:50, 5 August 2016 (UTC)reply
Unreliable Hungarian celebrity gossip site, copying material from other sites with little to no fact checking. It was added to huwiki's blacklist
on March 15. –
nyuszika7h (
talk) 10:23, 6 August 2016 (UTC)reply
1:
Horrifico, the sockpuppeteer who has used this link for spam, has not had any known activity since late April.
2: When I attempted to report that the user
Gedackt might have died six years ago(this is the only known link I could find related to this),
I could not save the edit because this was on the blacklist.
99Acres.com is an Indian real estate portal. (It appears to have some connection to job portal
Naukri.com and maybe education portal
Shiksha.com, none of which are reliable, and are also worth keeping an eye on for spam). All or almost all edits by the above accounts have been inserting refs or straight links to 99acres.com at various Indian real estate and geography articles. Very little positive activity.
I've added a link to spam.99acres.com to all accounts I've identified, but there are surely ones that have been removed without warning or comment by others. I removed a bunch of links a while ago, but spamming continues at a steady pace, and I just removed several dozen more over the last couple of days. I have seen a couple of likely good-faith uses of this site, but only a couple.
Grayfell (
talk) 00:09, 11 August 2016 (UTC)reply
As of this report I see about 50 uses of this site in various Indian articles, but it's like every other cookie-cutter blog we see. User Gethuviki added it
here. His name is very suspicious. IP 49.206.126.121 added it
here (Geo: Hyderabad, India; ISP: Beam). User Editor milton added it
here. User Johnsoft123 added it
here to an article that was, the next day, edited by Editor milton
[26]. Actually, as I look through Editor milton's edits, most of them involve Gethucinema.com in some way, so I'll be indeffing on that basis and reverting his edits. None of them achieve even the most basic of standards:
Gethu Cinema wrote, "This movie for the audiences who unaware of zombie." And rated 3 out of 5.Diff
Gethu Cinema stated, "This movie comes with new attempt in tamil cinema, can only enjoyable with friends." And rated 3 out of 5.Diff
Gethu Cinema stated, "This movie comes with a plot that entertains this trend youngsters." And rated 3.5 out of 5.Diff
Gethu Cinema stated, "This movie tries to convey a certain impression by the Director Ravi Arasu." And rated 3.25 out of 5.Diff
Looks like he's on autopilot here. Using a meaningless excerpt, an incomplete sentence rating, and then a link to the blog.
That should clear up the bulk of this problem, but we might keep blacklisting on the table, since the other accounts and IPs could be involved.
Cyphoidbomb (
talk) 04:25, 11 August 2016 (UTC)reply
Roving IPs edit-warring to add unofficial website at
Prince George of Cambridge.
[32] Blacklisting will block the addition but allow us to keep IPs open and the page unprotected.
DrKay (
talk) 11:39, 14 August 2016 (UTC)reply
@
DrKay: I see your point. Two questions: what makes this link so bad, and how much constructive editing by non-confirmed editors and IPs is there actually (editors who would be unable to edit if the page would be semi-ed)?. We could also consider a very harsh application of
User:XLinkBot. --
Dirk BeetstraTC 12:04, 14 August 2016 (UTC)reply
It's a wikipedia mirror but with no attribution or acknowledgement that the content is from wikipedia. There are occasional useful new/IP edits, such as
[33].
DrKay (
talk) 12:17, 14 August 2016 (UTC)reply
All from the
Black Friday Sale article (EU version of the US Black Friday). All domains were added this year to the article and they are absolutely spam links. I removed them earlier this month and the removal was reverted today by the 49.x IP, suggesting someone is watching this to keep their spam links added.
Ravensfire (
talk) 17:49, 15 August 2016 (UTC)reply
How can the site be useful
It is one and half year old blog based that features useful information about getting gift cards and voucher of leading stores at affordable rate.
Why it should not be blacklisted
I can't find any major spam activities related to this site. Since it is based on coupons and frugal living with "Blogger community", there might be some fellow blogger, who added it's link on some coupon or deal related page.
Good news, I found the major spam activities you were unable to locate; they are
right here. Not done. OhNoitsJamieTalk 13:45, 16 August 2016 (UTC)reply
Blocks made pursuant to spam blacklist hits
While scrolling through the blocks log, I did notice that
User:37.115.213.23 was blocked by
Beetstra for spamming but had no edits, edit filter hits or deleted contributions. Only after a while I did realize that it may be recorded in the spam blacklist log, and
lo and behold there it was. Based on my initial confusion, I am wondering if blocks executed purely on the basis of that log may warrant a canned block reason, seeing as that log aside from being admin only is little known. Or maybe I am worrying too much.
Jo-Jo Eumerus (
talk,
contributions) 21:44, 17 August 2016 (UTC)reply
I block them continuously as they tend to make the spam-blackist-log useless (there is one with about >2000 hits to the blacklist ..). A specialised canned block-reason might be a good idea, I think that is a good plan.
I also left a note on
User:Slakr's page, see whether Procseebot can take 'm out. Something along the lines of 'block the editor if they hit the spam-blacklist log more than xx times withing yy hours. I'll also have a look whether the abusefilter can be an option (throttled system). --
Dirk BeetstraTC 03:24, 18 August 2016 (UTC)reply
I have added 'hitting the blacklist continuously' to the block-reason for clarity, but I'd prefer a canned summary (I blocked .. 20 over the last days?). --
Dirk BeetstraTC 04:57, 18 August 2016 (UTC)reply
Prefer omitting "IP" because I suspect named users could also perform this kind of spamming. That's why I used the name "Spamblacklistblock". I've also ripped off "OversightBlock" a little.
Jo-Jo Eumerus (
talk,
contributions) 10:26, 18 August 2016 (UTC)reply
Makes sense, though I haven't seen many 'named spambots'. --
Dirk BeetstraTC 10:49, 18 August 2016 (UTC)reply
I created the template, may need a bit of work. --
Dirk BeetstraTC 11:08, 18 August 2016 (UTC)reply
Changed the file. I wonder if this should be popularized/advertised a little.
Jo-Jo Eumerus (
talk,
contributions) 11:12, 18 August 2016 (UTC)reply
Most editors are not aware of the existence of the log (and some not even of the existence of the Spam blacklist/whitelist for that matter, or even the MediaWiki namespace) - I think I am one of the few regularly looking at it. Maybe some selective pinging, but that will be to editors who are here regularly anyway, and likely have this page watchlisted. --
Dirk BeetstraTC 11:38, 18 August 2016 (UTC)reply
I
updated the template to use {{
uw-block}} and removed the reference to suppressed information since this has nothing to do with oversight. —
JJMC89 (
T·C) 16:26, 18 August 2016 (UTC)reply
I have left a message on your talk page as this link is not a spam. --
Vernapullam (
talk) 11:12, 12 August 2016 (UTC)reply
When three separate user accounts have added links to the website in the past month as their sole contribution to Wikipedia, it seems a lot like spamming. . .
Mean as custard (
talk) 11:27, 12 August 2016 (UTC)reply
There are a lot of links to this site and a lot of users - whether in mistaken good faith or not - proposing it as a source, with over 250 links, many purportedly as sources including in BLPs.
There's no way we could ever use this site as a source for anything. User-generated, zero fact-checking, and packed with conspiracist claptrap. I advocate blacklisting to control the problem. Guy (
Help!) 15:59, 19 August 2016 (UTC)reply
Link was added to
Gokula (film), an Indian Kannada-language film article
here by 115.117.141.72,
here by 49.249.92.47, and
here by 49.203.208.126. As of this note there are about 20 links across the project. The site redirects to "Four Seasons Sunrooms Complaints and Reviews" at four-seasons-sunrooms.pissedconsumer.com/ which is obviously not a useful source of any kind. Both sites should be blacklisted, and I'll gladly do the honors.
Cyphoidbomb (
talk) 23:11, 20 August 2016 (UTC)reply
Why to remove: The URL belongs to the Greek Ministry of Education and Religions. The "pi" stands for "Paedagogic Institute". It contains all the text books used in Greek schools. Those books are authored by teams of academics and have been reviewed and accepted by the state authorities. There is no reason why is "blacklisted". Example of a source that I tried to use in WP article
New Martyr and was denied as "blacklisted":
Religion (Threskeutica) for the 3rd grade, High School, edited c. 2007.
It does not appear that pi-schools is directly blacklisted. Looking at the log
here, it seems you included the google redirect link which probably triggered a filter or entry somehwere. Can you try to link to the site directly and see if that works?
Kuru(talk) 14:51, 22 August 2016 (UTC)reply
This link is not being used anywhere on Wikipedia except on the article of Domenick Nati, which was deleted after
an AfD in March, but has since been persistently recreated under new titles by sockpuppets of JellyfishFilms (see
the extensive SPI archive). I'm making this spam blacklist request at
the suggestion of BethNaught over at ANI. -
IagoQnsi (
talk) 18:40, 24 August 2016 (UTC)reply
Added. The report shows significant additions from sockpuppets of paid spammers, and any delisting or whitelisting requests should be summarily rejected on that basis.
MER-C 04:27, 25 August 2016 (UTC)reply
Advertisement-ridden site being constantly added to articles about
Zika virus that is not reliable by any standard we have for reference or EL. Please add to the blacklist so we can stop removing it. Thanks.
Jytdog (
talk) 02:42, 30 August 2016 (UTC)reply
@
Jytdog: It is just one page, but there is extensive serious editing by anons and new accounts, so page protection may not cut the deal. I am going to go by your evaluation 'not reliable by any standard we have for reference or EL', and hence conclude that this site has no use for Wikipedia. Added to
MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist. --
Dirk BeetstraTC 06:10, 30 August 2016 (UTC)reply