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Comment: Close paraphrasing from these sources:
[3] and
[4]Netherzone (
talk) 04:50, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
Comment:This article appears to already exist at
Painted Cave, Galdar. I suggest merging information from this draft into this article. These articles are unrelated - I've removed my decline. CFA💬 17:56, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
Comment: Fails
WP:GNG; among the
sources in the current version, citation #1 looks self-published, #2 and #3 are primary source government document records (the former also failing
WP:SIGCOV), and #4 is being used to support an ancillary tangential detail and doesn't mention the topic of this article at all, as evidenced
here.
Left guide (
talk) 00:24, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
Comment: Greg, having seen the source retrieval date of 2016 in your
Kirk Creek Campground submission, it appears you have been copying and pasting text and sources from other Wikipedia articles and submitting them as low effort articles without checking source and counting on reviewers not going through with a fine tooth comb. You have been talked to so many times about the use of junk sources and you have been here so long but you continue to submit blog sourced contents. Any articles you copy and paste from must be properly attributed as well. You can not just copy and paste anonymously from other Wikipedia articles.
Graywalls (
talk) 10:48, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
Comment: The source, Legends of America, which is still in the draft, is a blog and should be removed as unreliable, and should not be used in encyclopedia articles. From their own "About" info on the blog: "Hi Y'all, Legends of America is comprised of just the two of us — Dave & Kathy, .... With an entrepreneurial dream, we launched Legends of America in 2003." Basically they exist to sell travel stuff and fake Native American trinkets from their two "Mom & Pop" online shops. Please investigate the quality of sources before adding them to drafts or articles. And the xasauantoday.com citation is also a blog.
Netherzone (
talk) 17:31, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
Comment: Citation #6 in
the current version is a questionable source; its publisher (Arcadia) has been litigated multiple times at talk pages and RSN with no clear consensus on its general reliability, and has sometimes been proven to be a
WP:COISOURCE. Per
WP:BURDEN, any editor wishing to submit the draft should show evidence at talk page that the individual author is reliable and gain consensus, or else simply remove material referenced to the book; it is also improperly cited, as the link points to something irrelevant.
Left guide (
talk) 07:39, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
Comment: This draft has a title that either has been disambiguated, or will need disambiguation to be accepted.If this draft is accepted, a disambiguation page will need to be created. (Review of the existing article or articles with the principal name indicates that a disambiguation page should be crated in place of the use of hatnotes alone.) The disambiguation page should be
Cueva Pintada (disambiguation).
Robert McClenon (
talk) 02:52, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
Comment: Too many sourcing errors - one source points to a search engine not a citation, two are blogs, another has a book citation error (work=ignored), and a fourth has the wrong URL that points to one of the blogs rather than the book stated in the citation text.
Netherzone (
talk) 18:20, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
Reply #2 - Please see
WP:GEOFEAT, "Artificial geographical features that are officially assigned the status of cultural heritage or national heritage, or of any other protected status on a national level and for which verifiable information beyond simple statistics is available, are presumed to be notable."
Greg Henderson (
talk 17:39 11 March 2024 (UTC)
Presumed doesn't mean guaranteed; all article subjects must be shown to meet
WP:GNG at a bare minimum.
Left guide (
talk) 00:50, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
Comment: - Corrected close paraphrasing from these sources. In addition, Copyvio Detector vilolation is unlikely at 16%.
Greg Henderson (
talk) 17 June 2024 (UTC)
The archaeological site CA-MNT-256, Cueva Pintada, has some of the most well-preserved rock paintings (pictographs) in central California. It was registered on the
National Register of Historic Places on February 13, 1975. In 1980, Archaeological Consulting, led by Gary S. Breschini and Trudy Haversat, embarked on a project focused on documenting the pictographs found La Cueva Pintada, with support from the
California Office of History Preservation.[3]
The pictographs originate from a
Stone Age civilization that inhabited this region around 10,000 in the past. Some of the pictographs stem from later Indigenous peoples who utilized the Cave for religious ceremonies. The Cave was preserved by the early Spanish priests at the
Mission San Antonio de Padua.[4]
In 1980, the archaeological exploration of the site resulted in the creation of over 360 drawings, tracings, and photographs capturing the pictographs. These records are currently housed at the Rock Art Archives at
University of California, Los Angeles.[3]
According to the
California State Military Museum, visits to the site are limited by the
United States Army base at
Fort Hunter Liggett. The entrance to the caves is at an elevation exceeding 3,000 ft (910 m). They are protected by a chain link fence and concertina wire. The walls are covered with prehistoric white, red, black, and ochre pictographs. The rock overhangs and caves function as a rock shelter, standing at approximately 16.5 ft (5.0 m) in height and 21 ft (6.4 m) in width at the entrance. Internally, the cave expands to a maximum width of 45 ft (14 m), with a depth varying between 15 ft (4.6 m) and 20 ft (6.1 m). The pictographs resembling animal depictions as well as geometric or linear patterns. These paintings are layered, appearing both beneath and atop the soot that darkens the ceiling of the cave. The paintings appear to be connected to various facets of prehistoric life in the area. Prior to the missionization of the indigenous people, rituals and ceremonies marked specific events, including the celebration of the
winter solstice. Additionally, the transition from boyhood to manhood was accompanied by ritualistic practices. Researchers propose that the pictographs played a role in these rituals and others. According to legend, after converting to
Christianity, the indigenous people informed the
Franciscan priests about the cave's location, hoping that they would visit and eliminate the idols within. The pictographs, along with
bedrock mortars created through the grinding of vegetable material or pigments using stones or pestles, reflect ancient practices. The white pigment may have been originated from either limestone deposits or white clay. The black pigment came from soot or charcoal, while the red pigment was from
cinnabar.[1]