This attempt is unfounded, and there are references to prove its worthiness. Clearly from the exhaustive attempts by User:MosMof, this is a contentious topic, but I'd ask what for, and why? There are enough people who do call it LoHo ever since the real estate brokers renewed the name in 1996, that LoHo Studios had been using all along. Juda S. Engelmayer 20:59, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
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- ^ New York Observer reference to Neighborhood designation posted August 7, 2006.
- ^ Blog and News Site for LoHo denizens.
- ^ "Yiddish Shrine, Forward Tower Is Going Condo", The Forward, 3/16/01, by: Lisa Keyes"This neighborhood's now called LoHo," said the owner of the Forward Building, Debbie Lau"
- ^ Old-School Barbershop Meets Cultural Hub as Frank151 Launches Frank’s Chop Shop"a destination boutique for the hip and contemporary gentleman, will open its doors in the LoHo area of Manhattan...
- ^ Lindsey Lohan and LoHo's Lotus Club on Clinton St.
- ^ Global Graphika's new home
- ^ Flickr Photo Site "Covering: Lower East Side LoHo, Two Bridges,Chinatown, Little Italy,NoLIta, NoCa,TriBeCa,SoHo,
- ^ Miami Herald, 9/17/06"'Always hip' neighborhood in midst of cool revival"
- ^ Chain Drug Review, April 23, 2001 "While the retailer already has a concentration of outlets in middle and lower Manhattan, Cuti sees potential for more outlets in such emerging neighborhoods as Soho, Tribeca, Noho and Loho."
- ^ "Lower Manhattan streets are paved with hipness and history", by: Jackie White, Kansas City Star, 5/28/06 "The Lower East Side: It is a 14-minute subway ride from midtown Manhattan. It is just east of the fashionable, pricey SoHo district and near Chinatown. Often called LoHo, for lower than Houston Street, it is probably best known for its past. It was the first stop for thousands of immigrants to America in the late 19th and early 20th centuries."
- ^ Big Apple Blog, 2004
- ^ City Life, March 2006, Happy Ending Lounge, Loho"Voted "Best New Bar/Lounge" by Time Out New York, this saucy brothel-turned-bar heats up the revitalized "Loho" (Lower Houston) lounge scene."
- ^ FoBo In LoHo
- ^ Ken Hassman's Blog, 2/13/05 "cross back over to Manhattan and you end up in LoHo and a few blocks from the East Village..."
- ^ Artloversnewyork.com
- ^ Private Apt. Sale, without realtor
- ^ Loho Beauty Supply on 20 Clinton St.
Juda S. Engelmayer 22:45, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
Wiki asks for reliable non-self originated sources. It also tends to not like blogs. Yet, many of the pieces are bona-fide news reports from established media, and the blogs are either popular media-like spots, as is the New York Observer Real Estate blog, written by real reporters, and others using the name LoHo in various references to the area in question have been written years prior to this debate, prior to the Wiki LoHo entry being created. These are all pickups from what has become a popularized name over the past 10 years, not recent plants to support my or anyone else's theory. Juda S. Engelmayer 16:51, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
- Juda, I commend your effort, but you haven't addressed the one point that makes whether or not LoHo deserves a mention or an article:
Reliable sources for neologisms:
- To support the use of (or an article about) a particular term we must cite reliable secondary sources such as books and papers about the term — not books and papers that use the term. (Note that Wiktionary is not considered to be a reliable source for this purpose.)
- Neologisms that are in wide use — but for which there are no treatments in secondary sources — are not yet ready for use and coverage in Wikipedia. They may be in time, but not yet. The term does not need to be in Wikipedia in order to be a "true" term, and when secondary sources become available it will be appropriate to create an article on the topic or use the term within other articles.
- An editor's personal observations and research (e.g. finding blogs and books that use the term) are insufficient to support use of (or articles on) neologisms because this is analysis and synthesis of primary source material (which is explicitly prohibited by the original research policy). (bolding mine)
- Lower East Side, Manhattan has a profile in Village Voice, NoLIta in The Ne York Times, and even the recently created and rather obscure "SoHell" gets a New York writeup. And the one NYT article about LoHo deals with the debate, not the neighborhood.
- If and when "LoHo" has gained enough traction as a neighborhood worthy of being mentioned alongside East Village and SoHo, it'll get these features. But as it is, the name fails WP:NEO, and all the other factors, like the term's origin or the number of time it's used or your background, are immaterial. Mosmof 09:42, 19 January 2007 (UTC)