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Note that I have opened a move discussion to move List of Spaghetti Western films to List of spaghetti Westerns at Talk:List of Spaghetti Western films#Requested move 24 July 2023. This came up in discussion of moving pages/titles from "Western" to "western" and was supported by editors on both sides of that issue. The item at issue is that "spaghetti" is not a proper noun and per MOS:GENRECAPS should not be capitalized. So we're talking about noting "spaghetti Western" instead of "Spaghetti Western". This is consistent with other subgenres such as " contemporary Western", " revisionist Western", " science fiction Western", and others. The only time a subgenre would be capitalized would be if the name was a proper noun, such as Australian Western (but not "meat pie Western") or Florida Western (but not "cracker Western"). ButlerBlog ( talk) 16:14, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
@ Teblick:, @ Intothatdarkness:, @ Carptrash:, @ Paleface Jack:, @ Jburlinson:, @ Ejgreen77:, @ Dr. Blofeld: Pinging editors who have contributed to Westerns to notify of move discussion per WP:APPNOTE. The above mentioned move discussion is taking place at: Talk:List of Spaghetti Western films#Requested move 24 July 2023 ButlerBlog ( talk) 18:20, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
@ Teblick:, @ Intothatdarkness:, @ Carptrash:, @ Paleface Jack:, @ Jburlinson:, @ Ejgreen77:, @ Dr. Blofeld: - Once again we have a move discussion that needs your attention at Talk:List of spaghetti Westerns#Requested move 30 August 2023. This is primarily a notice for interested parties to participate per WP:APPNOTE. However, I will say that I'm sorry to notify so soon after the previous two discussions, and I am of the opinion that the current discussion was improper. It should have been a WP:MRV discussion with the previous RM's closer as they feel the previous discussion was improperly closed. The main reason for bringing this up again is the importance of this discussion in the bigger picture of the Westerns project. If moved, this discussion becomes a backdoor to lowercasing "Westerns" across the board, which will change the long-standing consensus to uppercase it, affecting a multitude of page titles, categories, templates, and such that are named based on this. Of course, those are my opinions. If any of you are of the opinion that it should be lowercased, that's fine, too, as long as it is supported by policy, MOS, or sources - but I think that discussion should be had on a broad level rather than using a single article title. Regardless, please make sure that positions are well supported by policy. If you want to refer to the positions laid out in the previous recent discussions, the previous "spaghetti Western" move discussion is here with the larger multi-move discussion here. Thanks in advance for your attention, and hopefully, this will be the last one for a while (although if the outcome of this is to move, I'd expect that to lead to a new multi-move discussion to lowercase across the board). ButlerBlog ( talk) 15:09, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
FYI, the article Spur Award for Best Drama Script has been proposed for deletion ( WP:PROD). The first sentences summarize the subject this way:
"The Spur Award is an annual literary prize awarded by the Western Writers of America."
Note that we also have an article for the Spur Awards in general; this article is just about the awards for best drama scripts.
The nominator wrote this summary of their concerns:
"not notable"
If you agree or disagree with deletion, there are instructions on the deletion notice for what to do.
Thanks, -- A. B. ( talk • contribs • global count) 18:09, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
Rachel and the Stranger is a 1948 film that is set in early America (post Revolutionary war) in the Northwest Territory. For you who don't know what that is, it is a territory that existed from 1787-1803 and became the states of Indiana, Ohio, Illinois, Michigan, Wisconsin and part of Minnesota. The reason I am mentioning it here is the article calls it a western. I don't think a film that takes place that early and is set east of the Mississippi, albeit in what was then a frontier, should be labeled as a western. I just thought I would throw this out to get a second (and maybe third) opinion before I changed it. Thanks. rogerd ( talk) 17:37, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
At the end of last year's marathon discussions on capitalization of Westerns, the last attempt was withdrawn since we had had several discussions that ultimately closed with consensus not to move (it was a page move request that involved lowercasing, so, it was to not lowercase Westerns). This was endorsed by a move review request. A few short weeks later, there was an attempt to reopen discussion yet again. That was withdrawn as it was essentially too soon, but it was noted by the opener that he would bring it up again in March.
My position on this can vary, and I don't necessarily seek input specifically to support uppercasing. But, what I believe is important is that the discussion focus on Westerns as a whole genre, rather than individual page titles, which is being done essentially as a back door to leverage wholesale changes across the board. There also needs to be more involvement than just the MOS participants. If there is not broad participation for the genre as a whole, it's going to come up again and again.
I was hoping for some pre-participation from the Film project. So far, no replies. I'm not sure why that is - maybe venue. I am inviting discussion and input there, as this has wide reaching impact. A consensus to lowercase will require broad changes to this project. A consensus to uppercase will create a good deal of work as well as there is a lot of capitalization inconsistency throughout articles (mostly film articles).
If you have input on this - and I hope you do - please indicate such at that discussion rather than here (linked here): Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Film#Seeking input on process (discussion about whether to have a discussion) ButlerBlog ( talk) 15:43, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Meek's Cutoff (film)#Requested move 4 March 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. voorts ( talk/ contributions) 22:49, 4 March 2024 (UTC)