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My uncle just got a new Blue Merle dog - but when I looked it up here, it went to a Nashville, Tenesse band named after a set of Jimmy Page Led Zepplin lyrics where he is describing walking his dog. Reading the article on the band, they refer to a the mystical blue merle - but not sure the writer of the article or even the band themselves realised they were naming themselves after a dog! I moved the band article, and redirected Blue Merle to the article on a dogs coat, which derives itself from original Welsh. Sometimes, this place just amuses me! Rgds, - Trident13 ( talk) 14:54, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
A suggestion relating to the categorisation of places in Wales has been made at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_UK_geography#Wales_categories. We'd welcome input from this team if it's possible! -- Jza84 · ( talk) 20:36, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Does anyone have, or can anyone pop out and take, photographs of current or former county courts in Wales to add to List of county courts in England and Wales or List of former county courts in Wales? I've got Caernarfon, Pontypridd, Cardiff and Carmarthen (Guildhall) for the first and Monmouth (Market Hall) for the second, but photos of others would be good. Thanks, Bencherlite Talk 08:38, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
WP:RM Newport --> Newport (Gwent). See Talk:Newport railway station. Simply south ( talk) 14:06, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
Hello team,
I just wondered if I could get some feedback on how well (or poor) WP:UKCITIES is translating to Welsh settlements? Is the project aware that they exist? Are there any Welsh-specific problems which require elaboration?
Places in Wales are currently amongst the lower, or lowest quality settlement articles of the UK, sadly. I believe we only have one good article and no featured articles! It would be nice if WP:UKCITIES could help turn this around. If there are any problems or even blessings, feedback left at the UKCITIES talk page would be much appreciated. Thanks, -- Jza84 · ( talk) 14:55, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
Following from an extended discussion at " Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (biographies)" on how people from the United Kingdom should be described ("British", or "English", "[Northern] Irish", "Scottish" or "Welsh"), which did not result in consensus, an essay entitled " Wikipedia:Nationality of people from the United Kingdom" ( WP:UKNATIONALS) has been prepared. You're welcome to provide your comments on how it can be improved at the talk page of "Wikipedia:Manual of Style (biographies)". — Cheers, JackLee – talk– 16:50, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
Contributors to this board may find this debate of interest - [1] -- MJB ( talk) 19:31, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
Hello WikiProject Wales participants,
I produce maps for use on UK settlement articles, within the Template:Infobox UK place and have just completed mapping for the whole of England. I am considering producing something similar for Wales, dividing maps locally according to the subdivisions of Wales, or else a national map, akin to that used at Belfast. I'd like to obtain some feedback as to what the community would like. For example, how would the map(s) be divided? Would it be according to:
If no feedback is given I assume a UK wide map is the accepted way forwards. Feedback welcome, -- Jza84 · ( talk) 00:48, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
This is excellent feedback thanks. I had an inclin that it would be the Principal areas yes. So that's 5 for and 0 against. So, would you guys ideally want seperate maps for the seperate areas (i.e. like each county of England has a county map), or, a national map like used for Northern Ireland? It may be that I have to do a national map first (due to restrictions in time - England took me a year!) with the view of getting round to each locality. Also, is there anything else I need to be aware of? -- are you happy with the format with the English county maps to be adopted here for example? -- Jza84 | Talk 03:22, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
The Monkton, Pembrokeshire stub is extremely biased and misleading. There is no such cheese rolling competition, no pub, it's hardly a 'romantic older village', there are old cottages on the way into the town, but they count as Pembroke, and not Monkton. Monkton itself is made up of 60's prefab flats. It is Pembrokeshire's very own attempt at 'ethnic cleansing', and it's where they put the drug addicts the gypsies and the homeless (I know because I was homeless myself). Everyone I have shown the Monkton wiki page finds it hilarious and it is now somewhat of an in joke among the people in Pembroke, as well as those in Monkton with access to a computer. The page was clearly created by 'Monkton communities first' (they are even kind enough to provide a link to their homepage at the bottom.
Thanks Alex Holding Formerly Monkton, Pembrokeshire. Now Sunderland, Tyne & Wear —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexholding ( talk • contribs) 10:22, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
I have created the above maps. I hope you all don't mind that I was WP:BOLD and added them to the relative articles myself. I really don't want to create any edit wars I just want to see what others think and hopefully bring this to a nice consensus on what to use. I hate the idea that other countries seam to be more organized then us with these things, so I hope you think the new one looks professional... I'm actually kinda pleased :-) Please voice your opinion over at Talk:Scotland#Straw_Poll I know I'd personally love to hear your opinions! Thanks -- UKPhoenix79 ( talk) 05:14, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
Could I ask for some help accessing local knowledge, from members of this wikiproject, on the behalf of the new WikiProject Museums? We are currently trying to identify articles within the Museum projects scope (& develop guidelines to help improve them etc). There is a List of museums in Wales. Could you take a look at the list for your local area and see if any are missing or create articles for any red links. Could you also add the new project banner "{{WikiProject Museums}}" to the Talk pages of the articles, so that we can identify those in need of work etc. Any help appreciated &, if anyone is interested you are welcome to join the project or discuss Museum related articles on the Project Talk Page.— Rod talk 13:43, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Just wondered what others thought of the new coloured infoboxes proposed at Talk:Wales. It's not for me (I might as well say here, as you'll find out there!), but I would welcome wider input at that talk page. -- Jza84 | Talk 02:05, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
A group of us at the Flat Holm Project are developing the Flat Holm article with the ambition to get the it to meet the criteria for Featured Article status of FA status - if you have any referenced information about the island please contribute. Thanks Tony ( talk) 07:43, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
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Greetings Wales community! We need your Voice! We need mediation and impute from the wider community who regularily contribute to articals of Wales interest. At issue is the use of a distinctive border around the country info box, as well title bar. The issue seems to have become a crusade against Wales by certin editors, who have almost never contributed to and practically never visit (by their own admission) the Wales page. I do not tust the motives of the editor, who seems to be stalking my edits and reverting them purposefully. This editor even dismisses the colors of Wales red and green saying that Wales does not have any official colors! (quote: "I imagine that this use of "national colours" (of which Wales has none by custom or tradition)...", Unfortunatly, I must deal with these cyber bullying tactics if I am to contribute here. However, I implore the Wales commmunity to weigh in on the topic of allowing info box borders and title headers. Please submit views on Template talk:Infobox Country and talk:Wales. If the wider Wales community decides not to support a border and title header color in the colors of Wales then I will withdrawal from this position. However, I and other editors do feel it makes the Wales page far more distinctive. Sincerly, David Llewellyn ♦Drachenfyre♦· Talk 02:26, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
Epbr123 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) has created a large number of articles based on various lists of places last year. As it became apparent that some of them were created wrongly i.e. not settlements, but other landmarks he went to ask for all of them to be deleted. Equally troublesome as a good number are real settlements. I suggest that with the help of the editor we take another look at those creations and separate the good from the bad. Agathoclea ( talk) 11:25, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Today I added an infobox the articles Llywelyn the Last and Dafydd ap Llywelyn. The infoboxes are fine but they both lack pictures. I am a real image-phobic on wikipedia and daren't upload anything in case it has some kind of copyright on it. A quick google search shows [ This], [ this] and [ this] website to contain a picture of L. the last. Would anyone be so kind as to tell me if any of these pics would be OK to upload and if so under which lisence? Does anyone have any pics for Dafydd? I would be soo grateful for any helpful replies! Thanks in advance! -- Cameron ( t| p| c) 19:08, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
Did you know that the Anglo-Saxons took over Wales? I wasn't aware of the fact either until I saw the title of this article. I'm suggesting it be renamed. Comments/suggestions welcome on its talk page. Diolch, Enaidmawr ( talk) 23:19, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
I created a new category, and decided on conventions of the organisation's name to call it Category:Welsh Labour. Someone who clearly thinks from English lines over wiki convention wants to name the category Wales Labour Party is debating the issue in the catgories name discussion. Rgds, -- Trident13 ( talk) 08:46, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
Hello! I am an editor contributing to Wikipedia, however I seem to have entered into an edit conflict with another editor who hawks over my edits and reverts them. He orchastrated a campaign against styalized country info boxes, and now has followed me to the Kingdom of Gwynedd page and is editing-out an into image there. I seek others opinions because I feel that these are targeted against any edits that I do. Thank you very much! I really do not want to leave Wikipedia, but fear this harrassment may lead me to! ♦Drachenfyre♦· Talk 10:54, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
There's currently an AfD discussion about the Welsh Wikipedia article (that is, the article here on the English wikipedia about the Welsh-language wikipedia). It doesn't look like there are English-language sources to demonstrate notability, but based on Googling "Cymraeg wikipedia", I thought there might be Welsh-language sources. But since I don't speak Welsh, I can't evaluate that. If anyone here on WikiProject Wales can have a look to see if there are Welsh-language (or any other language, for that matter) sources that demonstrate notability, that'd be useful. Thanks. Klausness ( talk) 19:34, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Any suggestions what to do with this stub: List of Welsh Christians? I've left my comment and suggestions on the Talk page. Enaidmawr ( talk) 23:02, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi team,
Can I make you aware of a few (un-summarised) changes made by Owain ( talk · contribs) which, for example, have introduced the wording "within the historic boundaries of Monmouthshire" before modern counties are used as locators. Long-term issue that I thought this team might want to resolve. There is guidance at WP:PLACE and WP:UKCITIES. -- Jza84 | Talk 00:55, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Just to let you know Flat Holm is currently a candidate for GA. On this project page it says "recognized as good articles or are currently under review for good article status" but it didn't feel right to add it there & most projects have a separate section for GAC as with candidates for FA. — Rod talk 19:49, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
I hope ya'll can give us your imput. GoodDay ( talk) 21:06, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
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I've seen various lists of Welsh names for [what are now] English places, and presume that these have few if any outright mistakes. But the fact that a place that's now in England at one time had a name in Welsh in itself doesn't tell me whether the Welsh name is now in frequent (let alone standard) use within unaffected conversation in Welsh between educated native speakers of Welsh, or whether it's a/the standard written form. I'm sure that articles in Wikipedia should at least attempt to distinguish between routinely used names on the one hand and historical curios on the other, even though I presume that there's a complex spectrum between these extremes. I don't speak Welsh at all and moreover am not in Britain, so I have trouble starting to investigate the answer to my own question. I've raised this matter here and disinterested-but-interested parties are most welcome to join in. -- Hoary ( talk) 05:45, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
A poll is talking place on Subdivisions of the United Kingdom and Countries of the United Kingdom. The Merger proposal is here, and is where all the options (merge, redirect to or from etc) can be voted for. -- Matt Lewis ( talk) 18:58, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
NOTE: The new article is "Countries" of the United Kingdom, by the way - not "counties", as it it may first appear.-- Matt Lewis ( talk) 13:20, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
Do we have a selection of people on the WikiWales Project that actively rate Welsh pages, I have a few hundred pages that would like to be rated or re-rated, but am unsure who is out there hunting down and rating our work. I don't want to rate them myself as that seems dodgy. Who do we turn to, especially if we think they have been rated incorrectly? And if we don't have a body we trust, should we set one up; a group of people with good Welsh knowledge divided into geography, arts, sport, music, history, TV, film, etc. By a second party rating pages it also helps stop people who have no knowledge of Wales Speedy deleting page sof interest. Anyone, and I mean anyone, with an opinion please answer to this as there appears to be little cohesion bringing thee Draig Goch together. FruitMonkey ( talk) 23:03, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
Currently, 1831 articles are assigned to this project, of which 308, or 16.8%, are flagged for cleanup of some sort. (Data as of 14 July 2008.) Are you interested in finding out more? I am offering to generate cleanup to-do lists on a project or work group level. See User:B. Wolterding/Cleanup listings for details. More than 150 projects and work groups have already subscribed, and adding a subscription for yours is easy - just place a template on your project page.
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I've added this new task force to the 'Related projects' (its actually a sub of WP:GEOG). -- Matt Lewis ( talk) 17:37, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
I'm trying to improve coverage of Jesus College, Oxford - the "Welsh college" - and a couple of potentially interesting articles about its history are in this series, which I don't have ready access to. If someone can get hold of them and would be willing to scan some pages for me, please drop me a line. Thanks, Bencherlite Talk 08:58, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
Is anyone able to take a look at the Severn Barrage article. It covers an important and topical issue, but the article is stuffed full of cleanup tags. Attention from those with engineering, environmental, economic or other relevant interests, or those who can give editing help to bring it within the Manual of Style, would be great.— Rod talk 12:57, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
Could the people who review the WikiWales pages, please reply to this mail. I would like to know if those who have taken it upon themselves in the past to look after the pages still actually respond. I'm finding response rates low, and this could be because the people have left Wikipedia and we are leaving all the work to one or two individuals. There could also be a new group of people hungry to take up the baton, who feel there is already a body out there working and don't come foreward when they are actually needed. Hope this is not too forward but I've noticed that the pages requesting reviews aren't getting hit either. Thanks. FruitMonkey ( talk) 00:29, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
Please see:
Thanks.-- Mais oui! ( talk) 14:15, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
Given Bryn's place amongst the highest echelons of globally important classical singers, let alone his ginormous crossover appeal, this page is in a pretty woeful state, eg the survey of his career has nothing from 1998–2007! I tried, using google, to add some detail—I got the list of his roles from his agent's website—but really the page needs a lot of attention from someone who both knows and cares. I noticed from the talk page that it hasn't yet come under your umbrella/auspices, and was surprised almost- instinct 22:28, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
The following articles do not cover any pure numeral system where the symbols and notations are clearly defined, instead they cover how numbers are used in the respective languages. I have proposed all of them be moved. Please discuss HERE.
Thank you. -- Voidvector ( talk) 07:45, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
There is a proposal going on at " Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2008 September 15#Category:Criminal law of Wales" over whether " Category:Criminal law of Wales" should be merged into " Category:English criminal law" on the ground that the criminal law of England and Wales has been a unified system since 1542 and the latter is the more common term. The alternative is to rename "Category:English criminal law" to " Category:Criminal law of England and Wales". Your comments are welcome. — Cheers, JackLee – talk– 18:02, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
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Could someone quickly check the following articles, as I believe they have been rated too highly? I wouldn't like to lower them without discussion as I may be missing knowledge on the subjects.
As articles that receive very few hits, I have difficulty understanding how that are rated as importantly as the national anthem, Welsh Dragon or Harlech Castle. Thanks, FruitMonkey ( talk) 14:59, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
Please, please, please don't take the below as what I think should be the WikiWales assessment standards, its just a kind of jumping off point to start a conversation about what path should be followed. I've only had a look at places and people, so no mythology, cuisine, literature, music, structures, etc. All views appreciated. Thanks,
FruitMonkey (
talk) 19:04, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
Importance standards are intended to indicate to Project Wales members what editing priority should be given to certain articles. The top priority articles are those believed to be the most widely read and/or are of an agreed cultural significance.
The following are initial suggestions taken from past assessments carried out by members of Wikipedia.
Places
People
I have been doing some assessment of the backlog of WP:WALES pages using the category links. Is there any guidance on whether and how Category pages should be included? For example Category:Unassessed-Class Wales articles contains a link to Category talk:Castles in Wales. Undoubtedly this is an important category, and it is marked as High importance. But should it be of class List, DAB or Start (for example). Or should it not be in the assessment at all as its not a real user-editted page? I had a search around in other projects but did not find any guidance. Welsh ( talk) 18:56, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
Many Wales articles are missing geographical coordinates. Finding the latitude and longitude of locations, and entering coordinates into articles is straightforwards, and explained at Wikipedia:Geocoding how-to for WikiProject members. Having coordinates on articles mean that they turn up in GoogleMaps, MultiMap and other such places which link to wikipedia based on geo-coordinates.
It is now possible to get lists of Wales articles that have no geographical coordinates via Wikipedia:CatScan, for example:
Alternatively, if CatScan is down or very slow, you can find them by looking through Category:United Kingdom articles missing geocoordinate data.
The articles in the lists above are currently marked with {{ coord missing}} templates, which need replacing with filled in {{ coord}} templates containing their latitude/longitude data (or else have lat&long entered into the infobox).
There are about 155 articles missing coords - I hope you'll consider adding coordinates so as to make Wales articles more visible on the web. thanks -- Tagishsimon (talk) 20:39, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
Request for assistance/opinion related to the move (by me)of A5 road (Great Britain) to A5 road (United Kingdom). I moved the page after noticing the reference to A5(road) on several Wales articles on my watchlist were being changed to A5 road (Great Britain) on Welsh locals. These articles make no mention of being in Great Britain, only Wales. So it seemed confusing to all of a suddend have a reference to GB. I saw no request for input prior to the edits being made, just a whole lot of edits by one user. The same user has even changed the reference to A5 (road) to A5 road (Great Britain) on the Welsh Wikipedians Noticeboard. So now on my talk page I have been left a nasty note to move the article back. Opinions please? Thanks in advance for your help. ∞☼ Geaugagrrl (T)/ (C) 04:52, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
FYI, I have proposed that Category:People convicted of murder by England and Wales be renamed to Category:People convicted of murder by the United Kingdom, for consistency with Category:Prisoners sentenced to life imprisonment by the United Kingdom, Category:Prisoners sentenced to death by the United Kingdom and Category:Prisoners and detainees of the United Kingdom. Please add any comments you may have to the discussion. DH85868993 ( talk) 20:43, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
Thinking that there needs to be a section on literature in the main
Wales article, I looked at
Welsh literature and
Anglo-Welsh literature and was, frankly, shocked at how inadequate both the articles are - for example, barely a mention of Dylan Thomas in either. I'm no expert on literature and am not going to become one either, but surely someone should give some priority to improving those articles which, after all, cover one of the country's greatest areas of achievement.
Ghmyrtle (
talk) 00:01, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
Given discussions
here and
here, can I suggest we coordinate an approach on this page?
Ghmyrtle (
talk) 09:41, 16 November 2008 (UTC) Comments so far are:
An interesting essay is here. As the suggestion I made in May on has some support here (I've been focusing elsewhere since I suggested it), I'll make some variants as proposals in here. Perhaps people could either support or develop them. I don't have a huge amount of time to develop the articles etc, but am happy to spend some time on it. The subject clearly needs developing. -- Matt Lewis ( talk) 10:39, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
We make Literature of Wales a simple disambiguation page* that points to:
Redirect pages Welsh literature, Welsh-language literature and Anglo-Welsh literature can redirect to their respective articles.
*New note: unless anyone objects, the disam page in this proposal can also be an introduction to the literature of Wales, per Enaidmawr's 'proposal 3' below, and Literature of Wales (Latin) can be offered as well. -- Matt Lewis ( talk) 16:24, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
We make Literature of Wales a simple disambiguation page that points to:
Redirect pages Welsh literature, Literature of Wales (Welsh language) and Literature of Wales (English language) can redirect to their respective articles.
There are some good points made above and on the face of it Proposal 1 seems commonsense. I agree with it to the extent that there should indeed be seperate articles on the Welsh and English language literatures of Wales. However, I think a Literature of Wales page should be retained as a general overview and synopsis, and that for several reasons:
I suggest retaining the Literature of Wales page as an overview with brief subsections for the Welsh and English (and Latin, much needed!) pages. More work in the short term, maybe, but I think it's the only solution. Enaidmawr ( talk) 21:33, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
Feel free to add another proposal above. There could be a case for making an intro to the disam page, rather than simply offering a choice of the articles. -- Matt Lewis ( talk) 10:39, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
There seems to be a strong consensus here for moving to Proposal 1 as modified by Enaidmawr's suggestion - that is, making Literature of Wales a disambiguation page that also gives a brief introductory overview of the literature of Wales, and points to:
Assuming there is no further discussion on this - and given Matt Lewis' regrettable but understandable "retirement" (hopefully temporary), I propose making these moves over the weekend. All we need to do then is expand the content.... Ghmyrtle ( talk) 23:39, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
Wait! If it's been decided to move the page (or the bulk of the contents of a page) to a new title, it has to be done right so that the page history is moved along with the page, for GFDL attribution for the Wikipdian contributors. Apparently this move was done by cut-and-paste. I'm listing it at Wikipedia:Cut and paste move repair holding pen. An administrator will have to fix it. Next time, when moving a page, please use the move button at the top of the page; this moves the page history along with the page. ☺ Coppertwig( talk) 21:34, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
I've proposed Category:Landmarks_in_Wales for deletion, since this category seems to a POV collection of random buildings and landforms. I don't think that it can be made NPOV. Pondle ( talk) 11:18, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
Normally i have found that things over 30days are normally archived. Maybe i was wrong on the things in October but the others are so i am rearchiving the September ones. Simply south ( talk) 17:55, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
Articles missing geographic coordinates have now been divided into subcategories, as follows:
Coords are useful for making the article appear on Google Maps & many other mapping services; and they allow our users to click through to see the article subject location on a map. There's a short guide to on how to add geocodes to articles ... it really is very easy to do. I hope you'll take some time to ensure that Wales is as well represented as it can be on wikipedia by fixing up the listed articles. thanks -- Tagishsimon (talk) 23:32, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
A number of articles have been nominated for a name change which involves changing the capitalization scheme used. They are:
(the links point to the discussion of the requested moves.) Members may wish to comment on the requests both for and against the proposed moves. I'm not sure where else notices could be posted to get as wide a discussion as possible, both for and against the requests), and so would appreciate people identifying appropriate projects and posting similar messages there. DDStretch (talk) 08:45, 12 December 2008 (UTC)