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Here's an idea for how the PA State Highway Articles should go:
These facts should be included somewhere in there: length of the road, year it was designated as a PA State Highway, volume of the road at critical points (if avaliable).
There's a good site for info: PA State Ends It has a lot of pictures which may be helpful.
Do you like these ideas?
Also, there should be a consistancy to the articles, whether we explain the route north to south or south to north (likewise for east/west roads). What do you think is better?
Getagrip123 18:37, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
Some articles covered by this WikiProject lack photographs. As part of a subcategorization of the requested photos category, there is now a category for Pennsylvania articles needing photos - to use it, just add {{ reqphotoin|Pennsylvania}} to the article's talk page. I have only added a few articles to the category so far, but it would be an easy way to make an extensive list Pennsylvania-related articles lacking photos. I hope you find it useful! TheGrappler 05:48, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
I just joined this project but i am a mebmer of another highways project that has put together a naming convention. The main reason why i brought this is is that their is a user who like to impose his own naming conventions, and has done so on at laest one article today PA Route 611, with the idea that it is the correct way to identify state highways in Penna. Regardless if it is the official way or not, i do not see it as a good way to identify PA highways as PA Route X, with my main point of contention being the PA. While PA is to Ambigious of a term to be used to identify thses routs, and if it used officialy i can see it more of a abbrivated version of Pennsylvania. Anyway i think that we should discussu this issue and come up with a convention. -- Boothy443 | trácht ar 22:04, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
I finished these articles-each have 2 pictures (1 for each terminus).I did it help out here. HurricaneCraze32 23:16, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
All articles are to begin with a brief description of the route in general: mileage, etc. A general overview of the road, including size and types of use. A brief history
Describe the routing through this state. The ends of the road
Make (or leave) a table that has the individual mileages for specific area(s).
Make (or leave) the cities list... South to north and west to east please!
A bulleted list.
List any.
Major attractions along the road
Put all oddities, trivia, etc. here. Recent projects to improve/upgrade the road, if applicable. Road in popular culture, if applicable.
Put sources here
Links having to do with entire highway go here.
Put related county-specific links here.
I adapted this from Wikipedia:WikiProject U.S. Highways. Should it be on the Project Page?
Dddstone 20:32, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
As stated in the Structure section above, there is currently no set standard for the naming of Pennsylvania State Route shields. For this project to be truly successful (IMO), there must be one. For example, all New York State route shields are named "NY-X.png" (with X representing the route number). All Massachusetts state route shields are named "MA Route X.svg".
To start the flow of ideas, I believe that we should follow NY's lead and use "PA-X.png" as it is short, easy to remember and can successfully organize the shields. Comments? --
TMF
T -
C 15:24, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
The new naming convention for shields is "PA-X.svg", where X is the route number. -- TMF T - C 02:15, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
I think that we should use {{ Infobox road}} as our infobox. It covers all of the important elements of the route, is very flexible, contains an efficient browse function and is widely used in many projects such as the NYS project. -- TMF T - C 15:27, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
I like the Junction Table, but I have a question where an intersection may be completely rural, i.e., not in a village, town, etc. I've looked at the coding on
NY 33, and it appears to default to Municipality, State. Unless we want a bunch of red links to villages that don't have pages, many of which probably won't, I would like to suggest that the structure give the editor full ability to link as needed. A possible might be:
Village, [[Township, County, State|Township]]
Some entries might not even be in a village, and some townships (in PA, for example) which have unique names don't require the county name in the link.
Also, what about the possibility of directional or proximity descriptors – North of Place, or Near Place?
-- Homefryes 11:36, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
Another clarification needed: how to appropriately use the Multiplex type (example please) -- Homefryes 11:58, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
County | Location | mi | km | Destinations | Notes |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
Conneaut Lake |
US 6 PA 285 | Western terminus of quadruplex. US 322/PA 18 duplex continues. | |||
Conneaut Lake |
US 6 / PA 285 | Western terminus of quadruplex. US 322/PA 18 duplex continues. | |||
1.000 mi = 1.609 km; 1.000 km = 0.621 mi |
Another argument for the horizontal orientation is this:
County | Location | mi | km | Destinations | Notes |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
near West Middlesex |
PA 60 | access to I-80 via PA 60 | |||
1.000 mi = 1.609 km; 1.000 km = 0.621 mi |
The "To" designation is important, as the PA 60/I-80 junction is almost immediate. I-80 is signed from PA 18, just as "To" PA 18 is signed on the exit sign with PA 60 on I-80.
Here’s an example of a simple junction that doesn’t work when the link follows the image horizontally:
County | Location | mi | km | Destinations | Notes |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
Hermitage |
Bus. US 62 | old alignment of US 62 | |||
Hermitage |
Bus. US 62 | old alignment of US 62 | |||
1.000 mi = 1.609 km; 1.000 km = 0.621 mi |
Ultimately, I would like to suggest the small font for all article links below the route signs – the bold regular font, IMO, seems overkill to me:
County | Location | mi | km | Destinations | Notes |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
New Castle |
PA 108 / PA 168 | northern terminus of multiplex | |||
1.000 mi = 1.609 km; 1.000 km = 0.621 mi |
-- Homefryes 11:30, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
{{NYSRIntTop}} {{NYSRInt |mile=10.9 |road=[[Image:NY-5.png|20px]][[Image:US 20.svg|20px]]<br /><small>'''[[New York State Route 5|NY 5]]''' / '''[[U.S. Route 20|US 20]]'''</small><br />[[Image:NY-89.png|20px]] '''[[New York State Route 89|NY 89]]''' |location=Seneca Falls |area=town }} {{NYSRIntBottom}}
I've noticed lately that a lot of junction tables have been using detailed descriptions for the municipality column. While I have no problem with this (in fact, I think it looks great), perhaps the header should be changed. If no one objects, I'll change the table header from "Municipality" to "Location". -- TMF T - C 02:46, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
User:Myselfalso has created a number of articles that are empty except for a navigation box for PA state routes. They are currently tagged for speedy deletion and are in CAT:CSD. Are actual articles forthcoming for these, say, within the next few hours? If not, you should probably not be creating empty articles until you are ready to write them. -- Aguerriero ( talk) 20:24, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
I've added Werdnabot to this page to automatically archive discussions older than 60 days per discussion on WT:USRD. If anyone has any issues regarding the use of Werdnabot, you may voice those opinions here. Thanks! -- TMF T - C 17:33, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
User:Myselfalso/PA Routes
Check out the link! I'm creating a list of all state roads; it is color coded by stub, non-stub, not begun, etcetera. I think this will help us work on the project so we know what articles to work on. Also, if anyone wants to make the list longer, I have no problem with that. --
myselfalso 03:45, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
I've come up with a widened shield for use with the 3-digit routes, based off of the 2-digit shield.
Take a look at PA 739 and PA 14 to see both implemented. Comments/criticisms are welcome before I proceed with more. Kether83 01:37, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
SVG shields are being created as we speak. The shields currently available can be found here, with more to come. -- TMF T - C 06:09, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
Request: could someone please generate PA-92.svg and PA-171.svg? They would fill ugly redlinks in List of crossings of the Susquehanna River. Of course the related articles are missing too, but that's for another day. Thanks.-- J Clear 21:05, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
After stumbling on an Arizona DOT drawing the other day that specifies the use of Series C for the route shields and series D whenever a "1" is part of the number and after looking at pictures of PA shields, it appears that PennDOT practices the same procedure, using C for all shields unless there's a "1" in the number, in which case they use D. Can anyone verify this? -- TMF T - C 02:34, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
A completion list is now available at User:TwinsMetsFan/PA Routes. -- TMF T - C 00:40, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
I've noticed that on some routes, decommissioned routes are being included in the browse while on others, the browse is limited to current routes only. Should we
Personally, I'm in favor of choice two. Thoughts? -- TMF T - C 22:42, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
Browse numbered routes | ||||
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← PA 28 | PA | → US 30 |
A lot of the state roads do not have infobox roads placed on them. Because of time constraints, I've been placing the above seen SR Boxes on the pages. I'll go back later and upgrade the articles to full infoboxes. -- myselfalso 17:48, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
It might be preferable to use an infobox road with almost no arguments filled in, like so: -- NE2 09:24, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
Route information | ||||
---|---|---|---|---|
Maintained by PennDOT | ||||
Location | ||||
Country | United States | |||
State | Pennsylvania | |||
Highway system | ||||
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Shouldn't Pennsylvania Route 29 (north) and Pennsylvania Route 29 (south) be combined into a single article, Pennsylvania Route 29? Like PA 29, New York State Route 24 and New Jersey Route 440 are split into two segments, but has their own article that covers both segments. -- TMF T - C 02:50, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
How different are the pieces? Is it more like Route 440, where the two sections are split by necessity (in this case another state), or Interstate 76, where two distinct routes share a number? Pennsylvania Route 17, before Interstate 86 replaced one of them, was a clear case of the latter. Looking at Pennsylvania Highways, this is probably the former, since it was a continuous route until 1966. -- NE2 09:22, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
Pennsylvania Route 29 has been merged as one article. -- myselfalso 22:16, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
Your state is invited to participate in discussions for its highway naming convention. Please feel free to participate in this discussion. If you already have a convention that follows the State Name Type xx designation, it is possible to request an exemption as well. Thanks! -- Rschen7754 ( talk - contribs) 00:38, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
Requesting , please. It's needed on List of crossings of the Schuylkill River. Thanks -- J Clear 20:59, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
Unless there is any opposition, I am going to rename this template to pash-stub. I think that it's easier to use.
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myselfalso 02:43, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
It was brought to my attention today that an article for the Amos K. Hutchinson Bypass exists. However, the entire length of the road is part of Pennsylvania Route 66, and I have requested that both pages be merged into PA 66, as there's no need to have two articles on the same stretch of road. Please comment at Pennsylvania Route 66. Thanks. -- TMF Let's Go Mets - Stats 23:04, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
A HUGE amount of articles have been created lately that violate virtually every MoS on Wikipedia, whether it be the big one or WP:PASH. As you can see here, chronic violation of these policies will not be taken lightly. With that said, these articles are in dire need of cleanup, and all further articles are to abide by the project standards. Thank you. -- TMF Let's Go Mets - Stats 04:17, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
Also, this article should be renamed to "Pennsylvania Route 43" to conform to the project guidelines. Thoughts? -- TMF Let's Go Mets - Stats 04:32, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
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A couple of proposals have arisen over the past couple of days:
Opinions on both proposals are welcome. -- TMF Let's Go Mets - Stats 23:52, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
Shields are now complete for all past and present PA routes. -- TMF Let's Go Mets - Stats 05:25, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
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Exempted. -- Rschen7754 ( talk - contribs) 02:38, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
On the Pennsylvania Route 441 page, the Intersections table links to Middletown, Pennsylvania (a disambig page) instead of Middletown, Dauphin County, Pennsylvania (the correct article). Because of the way the template is set up, I can't figure out how to change it so it links to the right page and still says just "Middletown" on the table. Could someone take care of that? -- CrazyLegsKC 19:09, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
Has anyone heard of this? I've marked it for deletion because I couldn't find any sources. -- NE2 23:29, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
I was wondering, having peer-reviewed a Pennsylvania article, whether there was really a need to have a separate major cities section, since major cities, in theory, should be covered in the route description. It seems to me that the cities section is redundant. Maybe it's just me, though - I'd like to hear what you guys have to say. Thanks a lot! — Scott5114 ↗ 21:28, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
I have taken the initiative to begin the project newsletter for our wikiproject. However, due to time constraints, I'm not sure how often I'll be able to do the upkeep. Plus, I'm looking to contributors. Please contact me if you'd like to help out! -- myselfalso 23:51, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
Wikipedia:WikiProject Pennsylvania State Highways →
Wikipedia:WikiProject Pennsylvania State Routes — Moving it from "Highways" to "Routes" accurately reflects the naming convention for Pennsylvania State Routes.
myselfalso 02:27, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
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or # '''Oppose'''
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Some articles that are about roads with little information have been merged into this list. If you know an article that is about a 1 to 10 mile long state route and the route doesn't have much to talk about; please merge the article onto List of minor routes in Pennsylvania, or post a comment here. Thank You. -- JA10 Talk • Contribs 23:26, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
In response to a few issues that came up, we are giving a reminder to all state highway wikiprojects and task forces:
Regards, Rschen7754 ( T C) 05:16, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
Hey, we need to really put some strength into the project again. Out of all 50 states, Pennsylvania is near or at the top of most articles on Wikipedia. Thanks to the efforts of some editors, a large number of stub articles were created. While doing so is helpful to any reader trying to find the basic information on a road, the project has pretty much maintained a large number of stubs - 410, approximately. I believe only Texas has more. I was pulled over to WP:NYSR to discuss turning stubs into starts. We, at the very least, need to do the same here.
Here's what we're looking for in a start-class:
In a B-class, we're also looking for:
GA-class and FA-class go up for Wikipedia-wide review and A-class articles go to the A-class review within WP:USRD
So let's try to get to work, and get some of our stubs up to starts! -- Son ( talk) 19:57, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
I'm not a member of this project, but I'm currently reviewing Pennsylvania Route 73 for GA. I noticed that your intersection tables used coloured rows which are read by hovering. I can't say that I'm totally happy about the table - I'm a very experienced user, and I didn't think to hover, and hovering is a facility which I don't think is available to non-registered users anyway.
Since this appears to be the current de facto or agreed project style, I haven't yet made it a GA issue, but it seems to me that a "good article" should be more transparent to non-project members, perhaps through a key or footnoting? Jimfbleak ( talk) 08:14, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
Hey guys, with the time flying by lately, I haven't had much time to work on PA road articles. Needless to say, this project has found itself in the well of inactivity.
One thing I had done, which was several weeks ago, was move the project from WikiProject Pennsylvania State Highways to WikiProject Pennsylvania Roads. In a bold step, this better reflects what the project is.
As it stands, this project covers state routes, tollways, freeways, quadrant routes, former routes, historic turnpikes, beltways, scenic byways, and I think even Bicycle PA routes (and if I'm leaving any out, feel free to add them). I think that the coverage I just listed is what this project should cover. But if we're going to work on these articles, we need to do it in an organized manner. I have no problem trying to find out history of roads, because I'm in Harrisburg, and I can find some resources on that.
That having been said, we need people to get working on articles. While the project has worked well in the past, because of its inactivity, it's not working so well now. We need to change it. So, if you have any ideas, put them on here and we'll discuss. I also think there are two good essays to read... User:Rschen7754/Manifesto and User:Jeff02/The purpose of WikiProjects.
-- Son ( talk) 14:25, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
I'm thinking of writing some articles for roads in Pennsylvania (specifically PA 981 and PA 982), and was wondering if PennDOT publishes any resources for finding mileage, road lengths, etc. Basically, something like the Highway Location Reference published by MDSHA. Thanks for any help. - Algorerhythms ( talk) 04:22, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
This is definately not a minor route in PA and I think it really needs some history added to the article. I really don't have time to add it and find sources myself, but I'd appreciate it if someone would find some history on this route as the article is very short and almost unsourced. Tim meh ! 23:25, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
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Hey guys, within the past two years Interstate 99 and Interstate 376 have both been extended. Except on their respective pages the route grids haven't been updated to reflect this. Since there will be no more additions to the Interstate system within the Commonwealth for the foreseeable future (except for the extension of I-99 north to Corning, New York & south to Cumberland, Maryland as well as Pennsylvania Route 576 being rebranded as I-576 once the Southern Beltway around Pittsburgh is completed, both of which are at least several years away) can someone please update all of the Interstate route maps for Pennsylvania to feature the extension of these routes? Thanks! Jgera5 ( talk) 17:07, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Pennsylvania_Route_283&diff=107356976&oldid=107354576 copied directly from http://www.pahighways.com/state/PA251-300.html#PA283. I have no idea if other such text has been copied. -- NE2 06:25, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
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