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Advice on handling XFD when "navel gazing" is introduced
I would recommend that we add advice that if "navel gazing" has been introduced in an XFD as the topic deals with Wikipedia, that !voters should be guiding by judging the article as if there was no connection to Wikipedia - this is equally applicable to keep and delete !votes. Basically, just as navel-gazing is a bad argument to raise, similarly just because a topic deals with Wikipedia doesn't mean it is more important than an equivalent topic that has zero to do with Wikipedia. --
MASEM (
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20:28, 27 March 2016 (UTC)reply
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Masem:Thank you, I strongly agree with everything you've said in this comment, above. Perhaps you could add such a new suggested Advice subsection to explain this? — Cirt (
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20:29, 27 March 2016 (UTC)reply
I've done a bit of rewording (more formal) of what I said initially, as well as adding the possible merge targets to established articles. --
MASEM (
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20:41, 27 March 2016 (UTC)reply
Eh. On the one hand, I agree with the sentiment that obsessing over the premise is counterproductive. On the other, isn't this a bit by way of overkill? AfD averages a hundred of new discussions a day, and the term "navel-gazing" cropping up in a hundred or two AfDs over the course of more than a decade isn't remotely close to inundation. Just as navel-gazing is counterproductive, obsessing over other editors using the term is equally so.
Ravenswing 03:13, 28 March 2016 (UTC)reply
Oh, I do want feedback. I'm just not sure this sort of feedback was specific enough to help improve the page, rather just seemed like a generalized complaint. — Cirt (
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14:26, 28 March 2016 (UTC)reply