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While this tenth league tier in Sweden does exist, I don't see the point of it having an encyclopedic entry. There is little to say other than supplying a dictionary definition of Division 8 as well as trivial truisms such as the winners being promoted to Division 7. The reason is that such low tiers only get local news coverage, if even that, making it failing in generating significant coverage.
This overview of Division 7 pre-pandemic shows match attendances ranging from 5 to 60. Most districts in Sweden don't even have enough teams to fill tiers as low as this. (I would surmise that Division 5, 6 and 7 should go as well, but I won't make a bundled nomination ever again.)
Geschichte (
talk) 08:42, 11 April 2024 (UTC)reply
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WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions.
ChrisTheDude (
talk) 09:52, 11 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep I am inclined to keep, as to not break the chain of this article set. I also feel this is a valid
WP:STUB article, even if it is neglected.
Govvy (
talk) 10:50, 11 April 2024 (UTC)reply
It needs to pass GNG with significant, in-depth coverage. I also forward that the "chain of articles" argument is invalid, because Division 7 and 6, and maybe 5 should be deleted too.
England's lowest leagues do not have articles.
Geschichte (
talk) 13:46, 11 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Weak keep – There is little coverage, but it is understandable as it is the lowest level of
Swedish football league system. I think it's worth maintaining the article so it doesn't become a lack.
Svartner (
talk) 13:47, 11 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Weak keep, indeed a very weak keep, for the same reasons that
this is a keep—continuity, if nothing else. I admit, though, that the fact that it is part of the Swedish football pyramid alone doesn't justify the article's existence. The majority of leagues in the
English football pyramid don't have articles of their own. However, every league between levels 1 and 11 has an article, so perhaps precedent is there to keep this one as well. In any case, I'm not opposed to deleting this article.
Anwegmann (
talk) 20:03, 11 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Merge What should really happen here is the Swedish lower leagues should all be merged into their own article so that we don't lose valid, sourced information, even though the information isn't necessarily notable enough for a stand-alone page. However there's no good merge target - it's something that should happen through editing, so a keep with a plan to merge - it's unusual, but that's what should really happen here.
SportingFlyerT·C 20:21, 16 April 2024 (UTC)reply
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Hey man im josh (
talk) 12:19, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Per previous AFD (interrupted by speedy deletion), "Fails
NSOFT (more broadly,
GNG) ...
BEFORE search turns up no possible reliable sources to indicate notability..." I've cleared out the blatant spam, and what's left is yet another non-notable IDE, with coverage only in primary sources. Declined four times at draft, then finally speedy deleted as spam there too.
Wikishovel (
talk) 10:04, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
The 4 sources are from the time of event. No lasting coverage or impact to meet
WP:EVENT. Also no deaths reported so
WP:NOTNEWS also applies. Also oppose merging with any terrorism article as it is not clear this event was terrorism.
LibStar (
talk) 09:20, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Bobsleigh athlete Jaroslav Kopřiva has finished
top 10 in recent years during his playing career, with the highest being first place at North American Cup
(NAC Bobsleigh & Skeleton) in Park City. However, this article fails
WP:NSPORT and
WP:GNG due to lack of sufficient coverage. The closest references I found about him are
Ref 1 and
Ref 2.
CuteDolphin712 (
talk) 09:12, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
The 4 sources are from the time of event. No lasting coverage or impact to meet
WP:EVENT. Also no deaths reported so
WP:NOTNEWS also applies.
LibStar (
talk) 09:05, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Fails
WP:GNG. No secondary sources. Previously deleted by PROD and re-created. An example of the over-coverage of Brigham Young University topics.
AusLondonder (
talk) 08:01, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
There is a possible case of notability on the merits of this being a very successful horse, but sourcing is poor here. We have a lot of directory listings and two articles (one in a trade magazine). I was able to find an actual description of this horse in Horse Racing: The Records. Even with that and generously reading of
WP:GNG, I feel this poor horse comes up just short. If only there was a
WP:NHORSE.
Allan Nonymous (
talk) 14:17, 11 April 2024 (UTC)reply
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Delete: Nothing found for this horse. I don't see anything beyond directory listings as explained.
Oaktree b (
talk) 12:16, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
I have carried out
WP:BEFORE for this article about an actor, and added a reference to his employer's website; but cannot find significant coverage in reliable sources, and do not think he meets
WP:NACTOR.
Tacyarg (
talk) 13:36, 11 April 2024 (UTC)reply
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Place exists in census data but shows no population. Satellite images show no roads and no signs of human activity in the area. Does not fulfill
WP:NGEO.
Broc (
talk) 07:18, 11 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Comment. Previous census data and gazetteers should be checked. The population was probably greater than zero once. Eastmain (
talk •
contribs) 14:10, 11 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Comment The population was 5 in the 2016 Australian census. Also, it doesn't have to be populated/residential to be notable—for example, the area seems to be a proposed renewable energy hub
[1].--
Canley (
talk) 00:36, 12 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Comment. Don't know where you looked but I see roads and evidence of human activity.
duffbeerforme (
talk) 01:39, 12 April 2024 (UTC)reply
OK, I see, coordinates on the page are way off.
duffbeerforme (
talk) 01:45, 12 April 2024 (UTC)reply
comment It's not a town, at least not according to the census, and the energy project seems to affirm this.
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Non-notable cake that does not pass
WP:GNG, references consist of recipes and trivial mentions.
WP:BEFORE check yielded no sources that show
WP:SIGCOV.
BaduFerreira (
talk) 13:35, 4 April 2024 (UTC)reply
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Keep. Although it may not be obvious from the article (which I've not looked at), this is a baking technique for sponge cakes, rather than an individual recipe. One of the earliest known recipes was published in 1911.
[2] It became popular during the Great Depression and wartime rationing.
[3] We have some information about how the cake works (the hot milk starts cooking the egg whites before the cake goes in the oven).
[4]WhatamIdoing (
talk) 00:10, 12 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep Classic baking technique. Already kept in an earlier AfD. The Bannertalk 15:47, 12 April 2024 (UTC)reply
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Comment – @
User:Liz: "(e.g.
here,
here,
here)" There are consistent reviews, and are also some academic works based on the software
[5][6][7].
Svartner (
talk) 08:52, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
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Delete - Found nothing as independent references for the subject. Won't pass
WP:GNGHkkingg (
talk) 11:18, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Insufficient content to determine article subject. Existing content is unclear. No sources given.
WP:BEFORE search is complicated. Most uses of the phrase are in reference to philosophy of
Gottlob Frege and
Bertrand Russell. Admittedly, I am having a hard time understanding their meaning of this term. See, eg.
Beaney, Michael (2010-12-22). "Analysis and abstraction principles in Russell and Frege". The Analytic Turn: Analysis in Early Analytic Philosophy and Phenomenology. Routledge.
doi:
10.4324/9780203939703.
ISBN978-1-134-17805-6.
Mauri Leppänen seems to have independently developed her own meaning for the phrase.
While this is dense material that I have not fully grasped, I am sufficiently persuaded that their meaning is not closely related to the current content of this article, and so is irrelevant to this discussion.
Daask (
talk) 17:17, 27 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete No sourcing and the article sucks as well anyway. Nothing of value will be lost.
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The Herald (Benison) (
talk) 01:56, 4 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete A phrase used in various ways in different, equally dense subjects, each of which would be better covered in another article.
XOR'easter (
talk) 21:17, 4 April 2024 (UTC)reply
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Delete A Google search shows a lot of unrelated contents, making the subject hard to grasp their role and even existence. Most uses are in reference to
Gottlob Frege's philosophical views.
Again, article has no sources at all. For now, I will go with delete. -
Tumbuka Arch (
talk) 11:54, 11 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep -
Here is a chapter on the specific "principle of abstraction" as discussed by Gottlob and Frege. If it merits a whole 24-page chapter in an academic philosophy book, it's almost certainly possible to write an article on it. A search of
Google Scholar with Bertrand Russell's name attached turns up plenty of other results as well. Frege and Russell are certainly both highly notable philosophers, if a concept is being discussed by the two of them we can at the very least write about what secondary sources say that the two of them had to say about it.
Psychastes (
talk) 01:24, 15 April 2024 (UTC)reply
The mere existence of a reference with that title is insufficient to show that the topic is better served by a dedicated article rather than being covered in an article with a broader scope, e.g.,
Bertrand Russell's philosophical views,
Russell's paradox,
Logicism, etc. And the existing text is bad enough to call for
WP:TNT.
XOR'easter (
talk) 16:27, 15 April 2024 (UTC)reply
I agree that this is probably not a great standalone article, and probably won't ever be unless someone who is really into early 20th century analytic philosophy decides to flesh it out in detail, but that's a better argument for a redirect with possibilities than for deletion.
WP:TNT seems unnecessary, there's nothing wrong with the article like copyright violations in the history or anything, and at least "principle of abstraction" could be categorized as a concept in various philosophy categories per
WP:INCOMPATIBLE where the target page isn't a principle or a concept. And the fact that a full article likely won't ever be written doesn't change the fact that it could be.
Psychastes (
talk) 19:15, 15 April 2024 (UTC)reply
So,
Psychastes, what would you suggest as a Redirect target article then? LizRead!Talk! 03:37, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
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Zero inline sources in entire article, no evidence of significant notability online. The article is of significant length, but there are few sources and none inline. 2003LN6 05:45, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a South African rugby union player, to meet
WP:GNG or
WP:SPORTCRIT. The closest thing to
WP:SIGCOV are transactional announcements (
1,
2)
JTtheOG (
talk) 04:58, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a South African rugby union player, to meet
WP:GNG or
WP:SPORTCRIT. All I found were trivial mentions (
1,
2,
3, etc.)
JTtheOG (
talk) 04:41, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
A minor incident that was later pushed by
Bev Harris as evidence to discredit the 2000 election. I can't find any unbiased sources (that aren't obviously connected to Harris) to satisfy
WP:GNG. The closest sources I could find are the Washington Post piece and Jeffrey Toobin's Too Close to Call, neither of which provide detailed coverage about the incident, simply mentioning the error as one of several mistakes. The USA Today piece is opinion.
Helpful Raccoon (
talk) 04:01, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Another case of "populated place" not meaning "settlement", because Waycross isn't the location of the camp and conference center: it is the facility itself.
Waycross was opened by the diocese in 1957, and it pops up in a previously blank spot on the topos shortly thereafter. I'm marking this for deletion rather than some other outcome for three reasons: first, all I'm getting for it besides its website is directory listings, so notability is an issue anyway; second, there's nothing much in the article that would be useful in making an article anyway; and third, there should be no redirect from this name because it would allow the misconception that this is a settlement to persist. The article on the diocese doesn't mention the facility, but it should be called by its proper names (it's often just called Waycross) in linking to a section there.
Mangoe (
talk) 03:35, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Comment. Leaning delete, though there actually is some coverage of the Waycross Episcopal Camp and Conference Center: in the
Brown County Democrat in 1999 and again in
"Making a difference through cookies" in 2017. The cookies article explicitly refers to Waycross as the name of the children's camp and conference center, not as the location ("Brown County").
Cielquiparle (
talk) 10:50, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete. Per the above, and per what I can see from county maps and histories, the site doesn't appear to be anything more than a camp and conference center.
╠╣uw[
talk 11:21, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
At first glance this looks well-sourced, however on a closer look except for one source I couldn't access none of them are actually
in-depth and independent. Nearly everything is reliant on information provided by the company's founders - the sole exception is the American Banker source which has one paragraph attributed to a third-party analyist
Both of those trends make Citizens' partnership with Opportunity Network stand out. In 2016, Patricia Hines, a senior analyst at Celent, researched the venture capital and private-equity money that was flowing to fintech startups. Only 5% of it, she found, was going to startups working on commercial applications.
"I have not seen anything even close to this," she said, referring to Opportunity Network.
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Article fails WP:GNG. Can only find passing mentions in match reports. Redirect to 2010 World Cup squad.
Simione001 (
talk) 03:23, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Bringing this here because I expect it to be complex and I'm not sure whether a merger or a move is the right outcome, and given the subject matter it's too complex for a talk page.
Townsend/McKean's death was in the news because she was a Kennedy who died young/tragically. While there is sourcing for items that pre-dated her death, none of those positions convey notability, nor did her CUNY role nor her son's role as the first great grandchild of RFK & Ethel. Most of the coverage of her work came to light not because of her work while alive but in light of her death. I don't believe her death was notable as it was ruled an accidental drowning. A merge to her mother is possible as this article could be trimmed without losing much.
Keep I think, rename to something like
Spoiling (parenting). Definitely A very notable concept there, must be fixable.
Hyperbolick (
talk) 06:03, 11 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete -
WP:NOTEVERYTHING This doesn't stop at defining the subject, but sections of "Potential causes", "Differential diagnosis", "Prevention", " Treatment" . Wikipedia should not be giving medical definitions and possible ways to handle it.
— Maile (
talk) 19:03, 11 April 2024 (UTC)reply
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Another "nothing much there" place, and the supposed naming source does not check out, though I did learn a novel 19th century circumlocution for marriage: "bound in Hymen's chains". Anyway, the gods of Google did not shine upon me, as there are at least two quite famous Taggarts and plenty of kin and offspring to clog the works, but at an rate, I found nothing.
Mangoe (
talk) 03:03, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete This locale is only notable at the most local level. Wikipedia is also not a directory of every spot on a map.
TH1980 (
talk) 03:21, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Comment. So far I have found one reference in the Brown County Democrat to the
"Taggart community of Hamblen township" in an obituary...speaking of which, there are many references to "Taggart cemetery", "Taggart-Hamblen cemetery", and other variations.
Cielquiparle (
talk) 10:34, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
According to the
Brown County Historical Society in 2020, there is now a historical marker where the first school and church in Brown Couny (actually a meeting house started by Brother Patterson C. Parker of the "Republican United Brethren Church").
Cielquiparle (
talk) 11:05, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Falls clearly within
WP:SINGLEEVENT. Braxton is notable only for one event - the controversy over his mayoral election. He is not even notable for being mayor, as he has done nothing significant in his capacity as mayor (likely due to the controversy), and the position of mayor of this tiny town is not itself notable. The controversy is currently covered in the
Newbern, Alabama, article, which is the appropriate place for that. There is no need to have this separate article whose subject is not notable.
Ergo Sum 03:05, 11 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep but consider a page move (outside of AfD). This is a
WP:BLP1E but the guidance on that gives three arms to consider as to whether the subject should have an article:
1. Reliable sources cover the person only in the context of a single event. 2. The person otherwise remains, and is likely to remain, a low-profile individual. Biographies in these cases can give undue weight to the event and conflict with neutral point of view. In such cases, it is usually better to merge the information and redirect the person's name to the event article. 3. The event is not significant or the individual's role was either not substantial or not well documented. John Hinckley Jr., for example, has a separate article because the single event he was associated with, the Reagan assassination attempt, was significant, and his role was both substantial and well documented.
On point (1) the nom is correct. Reliable sources only cover the subject with respect to this event. It is a BLP1E. On (2) I am unconvinced. It appears likely that the town will be forced to hold elections and the subject could win such elections, and that this would be notable and covered widely. That is speculation at this stage and
WP:TOOSOON applies, but I don't think it is likely they will return to a low profile. On (3) the event is, in fact, quite significant, and is already reasonably well documented, although largely in primay sources.So I think coverage of this is due. But the nom. also correctly points out it is covered in the
Newbern, Alabama page. It should be there, but the case is significant enough and notable enough that I think, per
WP:PAGEDECIDE, there is a good case for a spinout page that discusses this in particular. People will be referring to this event for some time to come, and although it is again TOOSOON to judge the lasting impact, it is likely to be covered in secondary sources as a notable event in its own right. So I find that some article just on the event is due. The only remaining question is whether it is due as a BLP or due as an article on the event. If the latter, this article should be moved and covered as an article on the event and not as a BLP. This is in line with other BLP1Es, e.g.
Lucia de Berk case. Note also arm 2 of BLP1E actually suggest merging with an article on the event, such an article being assumed. However that discussion need not be at AfD. An RM could be opened on the page instead.
Sirfurboy🏄 (
talk) 09:27, 11 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Just a word in response. I think it highly unlikely that one can say with any degree of confidence that the subject of the article is likely to become a high-profile figure. That would just be speculation and could be said about any other person or any other mayor of a tiny, rural town with less than 200 residents, which is not the standard BLP1E contemplates.
As for the significance of the event, that too seems minor and fleeting. Its coverage has been almost entirely by local sources that likely would not qualify as RS. It seems that only two large news outlets wrote articles about the controversy and there has been no sustained coverage. In any event, WP's coverage of the controversy should be in the article about the town.
Ergo Sum 19:50, 12 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Perfectly willing to accept we may be
WP:TOOSOON to judge the impact. I already made that point, but I disagree that Its coverage has been almost entirely by local sources that likely would not qualify as RS. A quick google of the name reveals that in addition to the UK's Guardian source on the page, it is also covered in the Daily Mail (we all know what we think about that one - but note it is a right wing source), ABC News, CNN, CBS, the Wall Street Journal etc. All of these are news sources, and reporting is generally a primary source but they are all (other than the Daily Mail) reliable sources. Then we have sources like the Equal Justice Initiative
[8] and many similar. Also additional information, e.g.
[9] - Law & Crime. Again, we are close to the event, and that is always problematic in separating secondary sources from primary, but there is a lot of coverage of this and it is worldwide. It is simply not true that this is entirely local sources.
Sirfurboy🏄 (
talk) 20:33, 12 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Redirect to Newbern, or re-scope to include the court case ala other one events. He as a person is not notable beyond the role.
StarMississippi 16:33, 12 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Redirect to Newbern, where the entire controversy can be covered comfortably. He's not otherwise notable.
SportingFlyerT·C 22:05, 12 April 2024 (UTC)reply
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Not yet notable per
WP:ENTERTAINER or
WP:NACTOR. None of the cited sources are considered reliable. I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject to meet
WP:ENT/
WP:GNG
Comment Just noting that this account has only been registered for an hour and their only edits have been to start this AFD. No editing on any other Wikimedia projects either so I'm not sure how they know policy abbreviations. LizRead!Talk! 01:23, 11 April 2024 (UTC)reply
I guess it's not about her well known role, but the fact that all the cited sources in this page aren't considered reliable, as per the Wikipedia's reliable sources list:
I'm ok if it gets !deleted as well, I didn't see coverage that I'd use to build an article.
Oaktree b (
talk) 18:16, 11 April 2024 (UTC)reply
If that is so, would you please recommend deletion for this article in this talk page. For some reason, this AFD hasn't produced much discussion as of yet and I'm not sure how Wikipedia will deal with such nomination whose discussion page doesn't even have one recommendation.
Raqib Sheikh (
talk) 11:25, 13 April 2024 (UTC)reply
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Keep: The article passes
WP:GNG, in which it has significant reliable sources like (
[12], (
[13], few more sources are added now and it has also have notable award and nominations such as two times
Hollywood Music in Media Awards nominated and more other reliable festivals.
Iitttlefir (
talk) 02:56, 10 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Draftify The evidence points to it being a COI article but also it potentially passing
WP:NCOMPOSER, making an outright deletion potentially hasty. However, currently it lacks decent sourcing or any sort of non-resume-like content. I would suggest it be draftified and prohibited from being recreated without the approval of a knowledgeable editor, if sources can be found.
ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (
ᴛ) 14:54, 10 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete – Can't find anything on this composer whatsoever. Additionally, Iitttlefir's entire edit history consists of creating articles for obscure, non-notable filmmakers using as the image a full-res, staged photoshoot that they describe as "own work" – genuinely leading me to believe that they may be being asked to do these on the subjects' behalfs. TheTechnician27(Talk page) 09:38, 11 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete: coverage for this composer is very scarce, mostly database biographies. The NYFA piece seems good, but
WP:MUSICBIO clearly states that the subject must have multiple pieces of significant coverage for notability.
InDimensional (
talk) 11:34, 13 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete. No significant coverage found aside from the NYFA piece. Otherwise, the article's sources are either primary (interviews) or press releases. As mentioned by
TheTechnician27, the highly stylized infobox image caught my attention as well.
HopalongCasualty (
talk) 21:07, 16 April 2024 (UTC)reply
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78.26(
spin me /
revolutions) 02:19, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
If thats the case, then ill recommend to '''Draftify''' the article for having COI issue. After looking at the sources, the 1st source were just interview, and other 2 is an awful sources. 🥒
Greenish Pickle!🥒 (
🔔) 02:36, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
I am really confused by the claims of SIGCOV there, one of the sources is an interview and another is a potentially unreliable blog. The last is from a database. To me none of those change anything about the article's notability.
ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (
ᴛ) 02:29, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
After the weeklong window of the nomination, there's still nothing that even begins to assert notability. Any viable sources (BBC, Hollywood Reporter) only mention him in passing and there's virtually zero article content, just a quick mention of his education and work history. Coupled with the infobox image, it's not a stretch to consider this a promotional piece.
💥Casualty• Hop along. • 03:07, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
The sources were mentioned at
User talk:78.26 and the editor requesting relisting hasn't participated in this discussion yet. So, they weren't talking about the existing sources. LizRead!Talk! 03:58, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Comments - keep I am surprised you opened this back up, didn't think you wanted too. I am a bit confused by the nomination and the process here. People always go on about significant coverage. But we should always ask, is there basic coverage first. We have some interviews, like the ones in the article,
vgmoline.net and this
one by ozwe games, a smaller website interview
here. and we have awards he won, two sources for
[14],
[15], for the Los Angeles Live Score Film Festival. Mentioned
here as a winner in the article for the Global music award. Surely this all adds up for
WP:BASIC. I agree google is limited but that doesn't negate new articles and they need to be given a chance to evolve, this was only added on April 9th, I don't see why you can't wait longer to see what happens with an article. But hey that's my take on it. Regards.
Govvy (
talk) 11:33, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
There are no references in the article and I can't find any reliable sources online covering the band.
XabqEfdg (
talk) 01:38, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Comment I see plenty of non-RS, looks like they last put anything out in 2005, and their albums are still available via eBay. Not my area of expertise, but I suspect this might be saveable if someone can find reviews.
Jclemens (
talk) 06:03, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete: non-notable director/producer. Per IMDb, only accomplishments are
When I Find the Ocean (2006) and The Mirror (2003). Other stuff (since 2012) still "in development".
Nirva20 (
talk) 01:34, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
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Creator note, aren't you supposed to wait a reasonable time (at least ~a month) before nominating the article for deletion, as the
This disambiguation page contains the primary topic and one other topic for the ambiguous title. Please
expand it by adding additional topics to which the title refers, being sure to follow
MOS guidelines. If no other topics can be found within a reasonable time, the disambiguation page might be
deleted.
states? Besides, there is a
YouTuber with this name, albiet without spaces that plays cosy games but is unlikely to be written anytime soon. See also:
Talk:Undertale YellowJuniperChill (
talk) 10:07, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete per nom. Couldn't find any other notable entries. What purpose is served by delaying the inevitable?
Clarityfiend (
talk) 10:30, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Fails
WP:NPOL and
WP:GNG. Coverage is routine and local. Lacking significant coverage specifically about the individual.
AusLondonder (
talk) 00:59, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
This particular music genre fails
WP:GNG,
WP:NMUSIC and
WP:SUBNOT. It has not been discussed in reliable secondary sources, and there isn't a single reliable source that discusses the genre in detail. All of the article's sources involve artists self-describing their music as Afro-fusion via press releases and interviews. The page creator gathered tons of random sources that mention the term "Afro fusion" and piece them together to create the article. Note to closing administrator: This discussion needs adequate time and my hope is that enough participants contribute to the discussion. Let me also add that the article contains false information. The page creator claims that the genre was "developed in South Africa" and "universalized by Freshlyground". However,
the source cited to support this info doesn't state any of this. As a matter of fact, the source states that Freshlyground's style of music is unofficially called Afro fusion and that it "contains elements of traditional South African music with blues, jazz and a spoonful of indie rock".
Here are a few sources from the article. I created the table below to show that none of the article's sources discuss the music genre. The table isn't complete but if you go through each source, you will see that none of them discuss the music genre.
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Comment: Afrofusion is a
fusion genre "Fusion music, also known as crossover music, is a genre that blends various musical styles together to create unique and innovative compositions. It often combines elements of different genres such as jazz, rock, classical, or world music to create a new sound that transcends traditional boundaries. The essence of fusion music lies in its experimental nature and the exploration of new musical horizons." (
[1]) which by definition and explicit demonstration is the style of music associated-acts of afrofusion, illustrate.
A Google books search on "afro fusion" retains over 1000 results. (
[16])
"The band is known for its eclectic sound that combines elements of South African traditional music, jazz, blues, and indie rock. Freshlyground's music often features a mix of languages, including English, Xhosa, Zulu, and French, and their lyrics often address social and political issues such as poverty, inequality, and corruption."
[17] (
Freshlyground) (
African Music Library Org)
"their sound is equally diverse, dipping into
kwaito,
folk, blues and jazz" (Freshlyground)
[18] (
Mail & Guardian, 2006)
"There have always been
rock,
reggae, jazz and Afro-fusion bands in South Africa", "A brief profile of
Laka's Afro fusion band image" - (Gavin Steingo, Kwaito's Promise Music and the Aesthetics of Freedom in South Africa,
JSTOR - ISBN:9780226362687, 022636268X)
"Kenyan afrofusion arrived on the scene soon after the turn of the of the twenty-first century..." - (
Georgina Born , Music and Digital Media A planetary anthropology, ISBN:9781800082434, 1800082436)
Note: This discussion has been included in the
deletion sorting lists for the following topics:
Africa and
Nigeria. dxneo (
talk) 19:31, 10 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Comment: So
Versace1608 and
Qaqaamba have an
open discussion at
WP:ANI complaining about content dispute/edit warring on "
Khona" and related articles, use of foul language and breaking the
WP:3RR rule just to mention a few. The discussion hasn't been concluded yet but here you are again on AfD. dxneo (
talk) 19:49, 10 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete: The article lacks clarity regarding the specific stylistic elements or
rhythmic patterns that distinguish Afro-fusion as a distinct genre
[19]. The article conflates afro fusion a term used in describing different genres of music as one specific genre of music
[20][21][22]. For example, artists such as
Burna boy,
BNXN, and
Omah Lay are used within the article and the sources of the article. These artists are mostly
Afrobeats artists
[23][24][25] with the name Afro-Fusion being used to describe their style of music as an offshoot or
subgenre of
afrobeats[26][27]. Also, it is very important to note that the existence of the term afro fusion being used by multiple different sources on google books or jstor is not a good enough example of the existence of this genre especially considering that when these sources are reviewed one by one each of them are talking about different genres of music that often has nothing to do with each other, with some sources using the term afro fusion in referring to the fusion of foods.
Bernadine okoro (
talk) 18:26, 15 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete: Per above, the problem is not that "afro-fusion" as a term doesn't exist, because it obviously does. The problem is that various artists in different places (e.g Nigeria, South Africa) have used the name "Afro-fusion" to refer to /completely different things. This article, however, conflates them as some sort of connected, unified, related movement, which simply isn't the case and sources do not suggest as much. It's quite clear, for example, that what "Burna Boy" calls afro-fusion is simply an extension of
Afrobeats, which is completely different to what, say, Sakaki Mango is calling "afro-fusion". This ultimately stems from the belief from the creator of the article that genre-names cannot be re-used by unrelated sounds. The result of this is a synthesis of various sources to suggest unrelated topics are all related to each-other.
HarrySONofBARRY (
talk) 20:36, 15 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Comment: I took a short wiki-break. As per Versace1608's stipulations at ANI prior to this AfD, Versace1608's main concerns appeared to be whether the genre originated in South Africa or not and that "Burna Boy coined the term afrofusion" - which has/have been answered/established via sources in the article. As per the purpose of this AfD does the particluar article fail WP:GNG, WP:NMUSIC, WP:SUBNOT and has it been discussed in reliable secondary sources?
HarrySONofBARRY - as per
/info/en/?search=Talk:Afroswing#Third_opinion you agreed that any re-directs for "afrofusion" to
afrobeats should be edited/deleted. Other editors appear to have edited multiple re-directs however it appears there is still a current re-direct from afrofusion to afrobeats,remainder/apparent. The stylistic origins/(influences) have been updated. In addition to previous listed stylistic origins ;
world music,
worldbeat,
crossover music →
traditional African music,
Afropop and
experimental music have been added as per sources , primary as well as secondary and context of the dance genre and musical style. In regards to Afro fusion as a
cuisine, I believe that is a completely different topic and would hypothetically speaking be article: afro fusion (cuisine).
Qaqaamba (
talk) 22:36, 15 April 2024 (UTC)reply
I have removed the Omah Lay, (now,previous) citation
[28]
I have removed Burna Boy paragraphs/mentions from the article as per taking an in-depth look as well as , as per
Talk:Burna Boy#Removal of Afrofusion discussion, although the artist claims he has pioneered Afro fusion as a
genre, that proves to be false as per the article, in addition as per
afrobeats' stylistic origins, the musical genres the musician has been blending up to date appear to be in fact the genres which indeed , make up afrobeats' (if I am not mistaken) and not afrofusion's true stylistic origins nor influences as per combined sources.
I have removed BXN's, (now previous) citation
[29], although he blends an additional "non-afrobeats stylistic origin" genre
Drill which is illustrative of the afrofusion musical style, in itself - the source stipulated previous contradictory information in regards to "it sees BNXN put his own stamp on Afrofusion – a term coined by Burna Boy to describe his own genreless style." As per afro-fusion article, sources and above we have established that Burna Boy did not coin the term.
@
Versace1608 as per
Talk:Burna Boy#Removal of Afrofusion discussion and HarrySONofBarry's concerns will you still add a section inclusive of a hatnote in the afrobeats article differentiating in regards to afrofusion as an evidential term/ hypernym/idiom and the actual afrofusion dance genre and musical style?
Question: Should afrobeats be added as a regional scene in the afrofusion article i.e. "regional scene: {{hlist| [[afrobeats]]| Nigeria]]?
But then the issue isn't just about removing artists whose style of music have been described with the term Afro fusion the issue is whether Afro fusion exists as a
musical style of its own hereby needing a standalone article. To classify Afro fusion as a musical style of its own it means it must have a
rhythmic pattern of its own because all music has rhythmic pattern even noise has rhythmic patterns.
[30][31] For example, afrobeats has the
Clave (rhythm) as a rhythmic pattern, rock music has
four-on-the-floor pattern while house music has a four-by-four beat pattern with a bass drum kick hitting on every beat from the article afro fusion seems to not have one.
[32][33][34]The article dates the genre as early as the 1970s but it seems that there is already another musical style that has been described as Afro fusion dating to the 1950s
[35]. Also, I find this statement broad
“By definition of a fusion genre and illustration of the afro-fusion musical style by associated-acts it is a genre and musical compositional form which incorporates traditional African music as well as Afropop, additionally spans between and blends various genres in a crossover-like style.”
For one
Afropop is not a specific style of music, most often Afropop is used in describing any genre of music that is popular within the African continent or simply any African music. The afropop article talks about this
[36]
Secondly if this style of music is the blending of any style of music with African traditional music, then that alone makes multiple different fusion styles of music that are within the
continent to be afro fusion. But if that's what this article is about then the mentioning of 1970s South Africa as the cultural origins of this style of music will confuse readers because all fusion genres within the African continent didn't begin in South Africa. Also, there are fusion styles in Africa that predates the 1970s
[37][38].
So basically, the problem is that the article is not specific on what Afro fusion is as regards to it being a specific musical standalone style.The article, at its most effective, appears to gather every and any references to afrofusion in music without providing a clear definition of the genre itself.
Bernadine okoro (
talk) 00:00, 17 April 2024 (UTC)reply
A musical style describes techniques and methodologies definied as or identified by composers of music and/or theorist of music. .
"but it seems that there is already another musical style that has been described as Afro fusion dating to the 1950s" - if I am not mistaken and this is the source and specific sentence you are referring to
[39] " ...Ace Afrofusion pioneers one cannot forget to mention the ace Ghanian drummer
Kofi Ghanaba (years active 1950s to 2008) whose late 1950s and early 1960s Afro-jazz style influenced
Tony Allen (years active 1960s/1970s to 2020) and predated the afro-fusion music of
Fela Kuti (years active 1960s to 1990s) by a decade" published by John Collins, in 2015 ( after the release of afrofusion and soca song "
Waka Waka (This Time for Africa) (2010), which accelerated the usage of the term to describe both former historical as well as present day illustrations of fusing African music with Western music. It appears the author used it as an
adjective, additionally the author is referring to Afro-jazz (which appears to be a fusion of African music and jazz) which numerous African countries , claim or label and appear to have "pioneers" of e.g.
Hugh Masekela ( years active 1950s to 2018) "Masekela began to hone his, now signature, Afro-Jazz sound in the late 1950s during a period of intense creative collaboration"
[40] or
Manu Dibango ( years active 1968 to 2020). Google infobox for "Afro-jazz" -
[41]. Furthermore
African Jazz Pioneers (also Afro-jazz ) (Years active:1950s -present) stipulates the origin as "still", Johannesburg,
South Africa. African Jazz pioneers was also inclusive of
Dudu Pukwana a member of
Assagai an
afrorock band. Afrorock blends elements of rock music with African influences which would hypethically speaking , if not by sources also be described as or make useage of the term "an afrofusion band/ genre". The fact that the term was coined by South African/(s) Sylvia Glasser and Vincent Mantsoe has already been confirmed and established via numerous reliable primary and secondary sources years prior to the publishing of the specific book and source you are referencing
[42].
Marabi , which combines numerous musical styles including
jazz emerged and evolved from the 1890s to 1920s and beyond in, South Africa.
Afrofusion as a musical style and clear evidential
fusion genre as per stylistic origins/ influences such as traditional African music or
afropop genres and the technique, the rhythmic pattern of the song(s) would be and depend on which genre(s) are used at that specific time or point (from the perspective of a fusion genre that would mean , 100s if not 1000s of evidential
rhythms ot as you've linked to display "rhythmic patterns" i.e.
Freshlyground's musical compositions for instance often blended
kwaito with
indie-rock. A song released in this musical style's rhythmic patterns would then be
four on the floor ,
strumming pattern,
ride cymbal and
clave., if not more.
The fact is that there is a plethora of both reliable primary and secondary sources confirming the musical style's definite, existence additionally as a distinct dance and musical style, (particulary, afrofusion).
I believe anything else, if necessary and of factual notable importance or significance could/ would be edited accordingly. The notion for this AfD is that "This particular music genre fails
WP:GNG,
WP:NMUSIC and
WP:SUBNOT. It has not been discussed in reliable secondary sources, and there isn't a single reliable source that discusses the genre in detail."
As per reliable primary and secondary sources, afrofusion as both a dance and musical style emerged during the
apartheid era, a period marked by limited access to well-recorded and easily shareable information.
"Also, there are fusion styles in Africa that predates the 1970s
[22][23]". It is simply indicative of
precursors possibly even for
afrobeat or afrobeats.
The emergence of a musical genre involves a specific time period, reflecting the state of the world, country, or city at that time, along with distinct stylistic origins, influences, and locations. For instance,
Tsapiky fused South African pop with native
Malagasy traditions in the 1970s, indicative of the musical landscape and cultural influences of that era. While afrofusion originated in the 1970s to 1980s, it remains relevant, unlike Tsapiky, which has waned in popularity.
Musical instruments,
compositional techniques, and cultural influences evolve over time, shaping fusion genres differently across various periods and regions in African music history before the 1970s, various African fusion genres existed, each characterized by distinct time periods, stylistic origins, influences, locations, and cultural contexts within the diverse musical landscape of the continent.
Worldbeat, a genre blending
pop or rock with world music, differs from afro-fusion, which originated in the 1970s in South Africa, blending various specifically
African pop genres. Worldbeat emerged in the mid-1980s in the UK and US, reflecting integrated cultural influences. Afrofusion, being a progressive and living genre opposed to "dead genre" which would've meant did not regain or maintain mainstream popularity, incorporates elements from worldbeat and other styles, suggesting a stylistic connection. Artists like
Miriam Makeba[43], prominent in afrofusion's early years, were influential figures in
world music/ worldbeat as well. Although it diverges from the main topic, it seems possible that worldbeat could perhaps be considered a subgenre or derivative form of afrofusion, given the timeline and historical context.
As an umbrella term, afro-fusion does not negate the existence of precursors, it remains distinct from them. Its origins are firmly established in the 1970s to 1980s, supported by abundant reliable primary and secondary sources.
To be clear, I agreed to a compromise solution so we could move forward with our conversation and ultimately deduced that a redirect is not as important as the other issues we were discussing.
As I raised there and on the Afrobeats talk page, I ultimately disagreed with your changes and wished to discuss it at a later date.
HarrySONofBARRY (
talk) 15:48, 16 April 2024 (UTC)reply
A redirect plays a crucial role in guiding readers to related and, most importantly, accurate articles.
As per numerous discussions elsewhere, I repeatedly stipulated that musical genre/styles cannot explicity share the exact name and that differentiations are always/have to be made, e.g.
Hip hop and
Hipco both rap genres, however distinct from one another in regards to predominant location of origin, culture as well as stylistic origins/influences. Both yourself and Bernadine Okoro appear to insistently oppose this methodology and logic. Furthermore, hypothetically speaking introducing
Hip Hop vs. explicitly titled
Hip Hop (actually, Liberian Hip Hop/rap) into the encyclopedia is not only misleading as well as confusing to readers however damaging to the encyclopedia. Versace 1608, indirectly stipulated this amongst viewpoints in discussion
Talk:Burna Boy#Removal of Afrofusion, in regards to the fact that afrofusion shouldn't be linked in Burna Boy's article and once more as per above, a hatnote needed to be included in the afrobeats article.
It has been consistently established through numerous discussions that
Afrofusion (1970s - 1980s/2000s) does not explicitly ≠
Afrobeats (2000s/2010s), as well as obvious as per times of emergence and stipulated stylistic origins/influences. To conclude and addressing you as the most probable editor to possibly do this since you created the afrobeats article this aspect, the "undeletable/ ongoing" re-direct should be be deleted. Additionally, one cannot explicitly title afrobeats as afrofusion and even as other name in the infobox parameter, too would be confusing/misleading to readers. The hatnote appears to be the best solution.
Neutral:The first impression I had about this article was it will be notable but on looking at the sources I began to disagree with myself. I found sources that speak about the struggles of some supposedly "Afrofusion artists",
top artists claiming their musical genre was Afrofusion (even though critics address them as Afrobeats), and a few mentions of this supposed musical genre. What I didn't see were sources dedicated to analyzing the musical genre which I believe is fundamental to establishing it as one. If it is not deleted, it should probably be listed as a derivative of
Afrobeats.
HandsomeBoy (
talk) 15:10, 17 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Based on the article, reliable primary and secondary sources, and the preceding discussion, to reiterate, it's apparent that while some artists may use "afrofusion" as a hypernym or term, the musical style itself predates the emergence of afrobeats in the 2000s to 2010s. It experienced a period of relative obscurity during apartheid but regained mainstream popularity in the 2000s. Categorizing afrofusion solely as a derivative of afrobeats would be illogical and misleading to readers, given its established existence prior to the rise of afrobeats.
Qaqaamba (
talk) 16:01, 17 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Note: This discussion has been included in the
deletion sorting lists for the following topics:
Africa and
Kenya. dxneo (
talk) 21:23, 17 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: To hear from more independent editors please Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
StarMississippi 00:29, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
The image was designed in Illinois, USA, and the design is too simple to meet the threshold for copyright protection.
Fumikas Sagisavas (
talk) 07:20, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: All episodes were redirected so no content here. The child category will automatically be placed in the parent category if this is deleted.
Gonnym (
talk) 12:03, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: These categories only contain one article, That article is about
Talian dialect, which I don't think we would generally categorise as geography anyway. –
FayenaticLondon 10:23, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: Merge for now, only one or two pages in these sub-categories, and mostly it's the same regional article. –
FayenaticLondon 09:47, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
No mention of this term at the target article. Almost assuredly has a plethora of other uses outside of... just Fark. The portmanteau of "mod" and "admin" is likely to come up in a number of other more relevant contexts related to moderation and administration. Cautiously though, this term has zero mentions on all Wikipedia, so I'm hesitant to just "retargeting and calling it good". Utopes(talk / cont) 06:56, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
No mention of this novel feature(?), aspect? mentioned at the target article. Has three other mentions on Wikipedia in different contexts, also
Mimoides exists with a number of subarticles on species. Not currently a useful redirect without context at the target. Utopes(talk / cont) 06:53, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
That might be typical, but it is the lack of mention of the word Mimoid in the article that made me make the redirect. If someone searchs for the term, they will be lead to the article. The solution is to mention them in the Article as they were a critical part of the book.
I understand that the book was written in Swedish, so other translators might have used a different word. If someone finds a different word used, but it is still unique to Aniara, then they could make a redirect to the article, where a standard term can be referred on.
If someone encounters the concept, it is highly likely that it is from Aniara and yet without the redirect, neither human nor bot would know that the word is associated with the book, and since as far as I know it is not associated with another novel. I had not fully completed reading the story yet when I made the link.
My intention is to add further discussion to the article, using the word, but I hoped the redirect would help others find the article. I also think it is worthy of an article in its own right, so if someone is really ambitious they can turn it into an article.
It doesn't refer to the moth. The reasons you are giving are why I made the redirect.
I don't think I need to make a list of all of the alien races and species that have a page on wikipedia. In the case where it doesn't refer to a dictionary word or a concept used in other novels, then it should be uncontroversial.
The moth name is pronounced meemo-eedays not mimoids, if someone types Mimoid I assume they are searching for the concept from Aniara, and it right now similarity search leads to you to the moth, when the page you are looking for is Aniara.
I think I might have directed it to the wrong page, it was supposed to link to
Aniara not
Solaris (novel).
I had to do some serious mental gymnastics to wrap my head around why this redirect exists. Sure, some people may perform mental gymnastics when "they're uncomfortable from their beliefs being inconsistent and contradictory". A similar idea I feel could be people perform the act of running to get from Point A to Point B, although that doesn't make the "running" a good redirect to "pathfinding". It's a singular mean to the end, and not everyone that has cognitive dissonance is "performing mental gymnastics", and not everyone that does mental gymnastics has cognitive dissonance. Example: I'm fairly sure I'm performing mental gymnastics right now in an attempt to jump through the logical hoops that went into this redirect, and I don't think I'm too uncomfortable from cognitive dissonance. I believe I've come to understand why, although I don't think it's a great end-all-be-all redirect that takes people to the right location at 100% intentions every time. To me, I feel like
Convergent thinking or
Divergent thinking are what I would have associated mental gymnastics with, i.e. following along with someone's thought process jumping through hoops with twists and turns to an eventual endpoint. Also, "mental gymnastics" is not mentioned at the target article. Utopes(talk / cont) 06:46, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
There is no information about a panorama maker at the target stub, much less a brand called PanoramaMaker. Not currently a helpful redirect. Utopes(talk / cont) 06:25, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
No mention of TotalMedia or TotalMedia Theatre at the target article. This is not a helpful redirect as there is no content about this subtopic, and the stub for ArcSoft does not help enlighten readers here. Utopes(talk / cont) 06:23, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
No mention of MediaImpression at the target page. Neither this, nor "ArcSoft MediaImpression" are useful redirects in the article's current state, as we have no information at the stub for this subtopic. Utopes(talk / cont) 06:21, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
No character (?) that uses the name Manta appears at the target article; this does not appear to be a useful redirect in its current state. Utopes(talk / cont) 06:17, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Pretty confused by this redirect; neither the word "man's", nor the phrase "red fire" appear at the target article. Not sure why someone would type this instead of the very likely alternative of searching for just "Fire"; this title does not seem useful as a redirect. Neither have any links or mentions on Wikipedia. Utopes(talk / cont) 06:14, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
A meme not mentioned at the target article. For anyone that wanted to read about Lego City, Lego City is the perfectly natural search term. Prefacing it with the meme line from the Lego City commercial implies an interest in the man falling into the river in Lego City. Unfortunately, the man is nowhere to be found in the river, much as this line is nowhere to be found in the article. Not a helpful redirect in the article's current form. Utopes(talk / cont) 06:12, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Implausible typo for the unmentioned search term of "Making television", which is already a roundabout way of reaching the target article. Errors in "avoided double redirects" are even more unlikely than errors in a page's actual title, and the misspelling coupled with the "making" verb pretense makes this too far out to salvage.
Making television didn't use to exist, this probably could have been moved with redirect suppression as the original was initially aired as implausible in its former state. Utopes(talk / cont) 06:07, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
There is no mention of this imprint at the target article. "Make" and "A World" are not ever mentioned at the target article. As it stands, people who specifically search for the imprint instead of the publishing house itself are left without any context to the phrase that they typed in. Utopes(talk / cont) 05:59, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
There is no cat called "Maha" discussed at the target. Moreover, there is no character called Maha discussed there, or at the associated
List of .hack characters. Utopes(talk / cont) 05:56, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
No mention of anything about a magnetic air car at the general-ish page for hybrid vehicles. As it stands, if people really wanted to search for hybrid vehicles, one would have used that search term outright. Specifying a magnetic air car and ending up at a page about hybrid vehicles in general is not a useful redirect for readers as it currently stands. Utopes(talk / cont) 05:55, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete - there's an article in the history about a theoretical
compressed-air vehicle which used a magnetic motor to compress the air for propulsion, rather than needing to be refuelled with compressed air. It was not a hybrid vehicle by our definition as it had only one source of power for propulsion. It also was never built: there was some hype about it about 10 years ago (around the same age as the article) and some patents filed, but then it
vanished.
Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 09:06, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep - This is an encyclopedia, the word is now mentioned at the target, and the word is a "disability-related term with a negative connotation". --
Jax 0677 (
talk) 22:23, 10 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete and
WP:SALT per nom, mentioned at the target or not.
Steel1943 (
talk) 02:59, 11 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep and recreate
Fucktard as a redirect with the same target, both with indef full protection. The word is mentioned at the target and
WP:WINC.
Nickps (
talk) 19:45, 11 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete and salt, really not a good idea. Just because we can have unmentioned versions of a mentioned slur doesn't mean we should. Utopes(talk / cont) 03:57, 12 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 05:51, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete - I disagree that this is salt evasion, there was 5 years between the deletion of the salted title and the creation of the new one, and the creator never edited the original. The original page was salted because it was only being used for vandalism, while the new title was created explicitly with a target in mind. However, the term should be removed from the target: the one source given that's not paywalled happens to mention the word, but with no context other than an odd story about gluten sensitivity. Wikipedia is not censored but we are also not
offensive for no reason; maybe
Fucktard could be recreated as a Wiktionary redirect (
wikt:fucktard exists) but this modified title should be deleted.
Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 09:15, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Not mentioned at the target page.
Tea2min (
talk) 15:08, 3 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Wiktionary redirect to
wikt:insurance goal. There it's given in the context of soccer but it's the same meaning. Preferable to adding it back to the list of hockey terms since it also applies to other sports.
Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 20:03, 3 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Add back to the list, or delete per
WP:REDYES for both the soccer/football and hockey terms. This
search for "insurance goal on Wikipedia returns a surprising amount of articles that mention the phrase for its soccer/football and hockey uses, but surprisingly none of the results are articles that define the term. For this reason, the phrase seems notable enough in some regard to be included and defined either in an existent article or a standalone article.
Steel1943 (
talk) 20:05, 5 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
CycloneYoristalk! 21:27, 10 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: The term has not yet been added back to the list. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 05:50, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Weak retarget to
Holdall, which is the target of gym bag, and which notes that it is also known as a sports bag in UK English although
Sports bag does not exist. It does not discuss hockey, though. Our article
ice hockey equipment does not describe bags, and
duffel bag doesn't mention hockey; I haven't found anything better.
Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 20:10, 3 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
CycloneYoristalk! 21:27, 10 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Also notified of this discussion at the proposed target talk page. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 05:46, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Macko is not listed at the page for this shooting. What I will note, is that looking up "Nikolas Macko", the shooting almost didn't come up on the first page (was the very last result for me)" This might make sense as it took place in 2007, and as time progresses, older results are less likely to be promoted higher. But in any event, we have no content on this individual. In 2007, they attempted to fend off the shooting from taking place. But, these efforts are not described anywhere on the page or on Wikipedia, to my understanding. I don't think that this is a particularly useful redirect, in the article's current state. Just as Google displays a wide assortment of topics related to different "Nikolas Macko"s, if he isn't discussed in the article any longer, I don't think this redirect is necessary either. Utopes(talk / cont) 05:44, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
As it should be worth noting, this redirect was fully protected almost IMMEDIATELY after creation in 2007, and remained fully protected for another 17 years up until just a month ago. Utopes(talk / cont) 05:45, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
No information about Lower Quebec at the target article. Doing a spot check for other locations around the world, I could not find
Lower Foobar ever be a redirect to Foobar, as the specification of lower almost certainly implies a different, undiscussed topic. Utopes(talk / cont) 05:31, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Redirect to
Old Quebec § Lower Town, which is what this term generally refers to (though admittedly it is not explicitly mentioned there).
Rosbif73 (
talk) 07:38, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Redirect per Rosbif73, it's a well-known synonym.
Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 09:19, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
This redirect is categorized as follows: A meme quotation from film and television, that is not mentioned at the article. Wikipedia is not an infinite compendium of unmentioned memes. Not a helpful redirect as people who want to read about The Godfather would search for The Godfather. Specifying a meme implies a search for specific content that we don't have on WP. Utopes(talk / cont) 05:23, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Support, how often do people search for films via quotes? Regardless a simple search engine search will tell them the film's title and they can search for the title from there.
Traumnovelle (
talk) 07:17, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
People searching for motor oil that is specifically long life are likely looking for material on a specific topic that we don't cover. Similarly to people who specify
Ultra short-term memory, the "long life" qualifier seems to indicate an undiscussed unmentioned variant. Utopes(talk / cont) 05:21, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Weak keep - the target does discuss innovations meant to extend the service intervals for motor oils, and summarizes some information on types of motor oil engineered with long life as a consideration (e.g.
synthetic oil), although it does not use the term "long life" at all.
Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 09:26, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
There's no context about the idea of "living foods" at the target article, and mentions across Wikipedia are rough all around. Indeed,
Living foods is a red link as it stands as well. Without any further context about this particular diet, it does not serve as a very useful redirect in the meantime if readers are left looking for material we don't have, it seems. Utopes(talk / cont) 05:17, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete per
WP:NEO - Google reveals many different diet fads trying to rebrand as "living foods", most of it pseudoscientific bunk.
Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 09:30, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Lower case version of what's apparently a brand of glue...? Adhesive? In any case, liquid nails are not mentioned at the target, and anyone typing this in instead of adhesive seems to be looking for something else. Has some history, but has also been to RfD before (13 years ago). Utopes(talk / cont) 05:08, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
No singer with this name is discussed at the target article. Does not help to redirect here, suggesting content that we do not have. Utopes(talk / cont) 05:03, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Retarget to
Lightsum. Note that members of South Korean K-pop group rarely uses their full name in their promotion, it is always without the surname or a stage name. I created it before Lightsum was published in mainspace but forgotten to retarget. —Paper9oll(
🔔 •
📝) 11:10, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
No song with this title discussed at the target article, not a helpful redirect in its current state. Utopes(talk / cont) 05:02, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
No character with this name discussed at the target article. Not helpful as a redirect in its current state. Utopes(talk / cont) 04:59, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Lady Godiva is never mentioned or referred to at the target article. Redirect a hyper-specific reference to an apparent synonym where it never is talked about is not very helpful. People looking for exhibitionism would have gotten to that point through just searching Exhibitionism. The current title might just be more helpful pointed at
Lady Godiva, if anything, as the presence of a name within the title makes it seem like the name is the most defining aspect. Utopes(talk / cont) 04:59, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
A lack of imagination isn't an "argument from ignorance". It's not being able to imagine and doesn't have to do with arguments. If anything, it's
Aphantasia. However, this has been a redirect here for the last 21 years. Utopes(talk / cont) 04:56, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
The existence of this redirect implies that there are multiple {{
hlist}} templates (e.g. {{
hlist1}} and {{
hlist2}}), but that is not the case. (And, as far as I can tell, has never been the case.) Delete as actively misleading. HouseBlaster (
talk · he/him) 02:02, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Support as nom seems reasonable. Sdkbtalk 03:41, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Support, not transcluded anywhere (only linked in page alerts related to this RfD, in {{
hlist}}'s documentation, or in transclusions of the RfD page).
Chaotıċ Enby (
talk ·
contribs) 11:25, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete stale non-translated content as a misuse of a user page that shouldn't be moved anywhere; article exists at
Vehicular ad hoc network.—
Alalch E. 11:55, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
This user page appears to be an unreferenced
autobiography of a living person, and is
promotional. This has been the only editing by this editor. Either this is not intended as a Wikipedia draft, and is
web hosting by an editor who is not otherwise using Wikipedia, or it is intended as a Wikipedia draft, in which case it is an unreferenced
biography of a living person.
Robert McClenon (
talk) 04:58, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Speedy Delete - G11 promotional user page with promotional username.
Flounder fillet (
talk) 07:28, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Additional information: this is one of hundreds if not thousands of similar user pages that exist solely to promote random musicians and were created by users with no mainspace edits. I am not exaggerating. Not sure why there are so many, possibly created by some kind of spammer-for-hire service.
Flounder fillet (
talk) 10:57, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
If you've identified a cluster of such pages it's fine to tag them en masse with the appropriate speedy deletion tags. —
Alalch E. 12:06, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Requested G11.—
Alalch E. 12:07, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
This user page, which is the only edit by this editor, appears to be a translation of a
copy of
Samarium cobalt magnet from Arabic. It is a
redundant fork, and so not a current copy of Wikipedia's information on the subject, and an attribution violation. The question that is known only to the editor, if even to them, is why an editor would do nothing but create a translation of a page into Arabic and save it as a user page. Regardless of why, it is not permitted.
Robert McClenon (
talk) 02:40, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
This user page is an old copy of
Portal:Geography, and is the only edit made by this one-edit wonder. As a copy of a portal, it is a
redundant fork that has none of the navigational features of a portal.
Robert McClenon (
talk) 02:20, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Yes, delete it.
Bduke (
talk) 03:32, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
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