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How often do container ships sink?
Temerarius (
talk) 14:55, 12 January 2019 (UTC)reply
Try googling "how many container ships sink each year" and you'll find a number of answers. Unfortunately all different.
Jahoe (
talk) 15:11, 12 January 2019 (UTC)reply
Also distinguish between sinking (rare), grounding and wrecking (more common) and cargo lost overboard (very common indeed).
Andy Dingley (
talk) 15:33, 12 January 2019 (UTC)reply
surely “cargo lost overboard, or coveted by seamen” is very common indeed. How could an insurance company or shipper tell the difference?
Temerarius (
talk) 15:58, 13 January 2019 (UTC)reply
Most cargo lost overboard these days is lost as whole shipping containers.
[1] It's very difficult to gain access to those during a voyage. Where access is needed, those containers have to be loaded in particular locations on the ship. In most of the spots they're just too close together to open the doors.
Andy Dingley (
talk) 17:25, 13 January 2019 (UTC)reply
The hard part is dividing the number of losses by the total number of container ship ‘’trips’’ taken. That s how to answer “how often.”
DOR (HK) (
talk) 19:25, 12 January 2019 (UTC)reply
I question whether "how often" has to be on a per trip basis. It could also be "per time" period.
Nil Einne (
talk) 16:36, 13 January 2019 (UTC)reply
So, a single loss in 1768 would be 100% of all containerships, but only a tiny portion of all voyages that year. Which is the more useful measure?
DOR (HK) (
talk) 18:03, 19 January 2019 (UTC)reply
This suggests the World Shipping Council also regularly publishes numbers
[2]Nil Einne (
talk) 16:36, 13 January 2019 (UTC)reply
Ship losses are documented at the various lists of shipwrecks, such as
List of shipwrecks in 2018. Every year is covered by a list, sometimes as part of a list by decade or century, depending how far you go back.
Mjroots (
talk) 20:54, 14 January 2019 (UTC)reply
More information on this stamp, please?
Could someone please help me identify this stamp? I cannot seem to upload it to Wikipedia, as it is not my own work, so I am including a link to TinyPic.
The black stamp superimposed says "Zanzibar".
Favonian (
talk) 18:29, 12 January 2019 (UTC)reply
Yes. It's the stamp underneath that I'm after, though, not the cancellation, but thank you.
Username1023 (
talk) 18:33, 12 January 2019 (UTC)reply
But that's a big clue: "Before 1895, unoverprinted stamps of India were used in Zanzibar... 1895 Stamps of Zanzibar [were] stamps of British India Overprinted"
First Stamps of Zanzibar. The accompanying illustrations have the same head (Queen Victoria) although your stamp seems to have a different legend from those which say "INDIA POSTAGE", but I can't read it. I'm not sure yours is actually a postage stamp as it lacks perforated edges, which were introduced in 1854.
Alansplodge (
talk) 23:48, 13 January 2019 (UTC)reply
See also
Postage stamps and postal history of Zanzibar, which links to
this page. My guess is that your image is from a pre-printed envelope; they were made in the local newspaper office which had the only printing press, due to the shortage of Indian stamps - see the last paragraph.
Alansplodge (
talk) 23:53, 13 January 2019 (UTC)reply
Now uploaded to Commons; see above. Please add to the description/ categoris there. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing);
Talk to Andy;
Andy's edits 11:26, 15 January 2019 (UTC)reply