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Internal migration within Austria-Hungary
Does anyone here know just how much internal migration there was within
Austria-Hungary--as in, people moving from the
Austrian half of the empire to the
Hungarian half of the empire or vice versa? For the record, I am excluding migration from one part of the Austrian half of the empire (ex.:
Prague) to another part of the Austrian half of the empire (ex.:
Vienna)–or from one part of the Hungarian half of the empire (ex.:
Temesvar) to another part of the Hungarian half of the empire (ex.:
Budapest).
Futurist110 (
talk) 22:49, 11 December 2020 (UTC)reply
I found it interesting that few of Austria-Hungary's
Magyars,
Slovaks,
Romanians, and
Croats actually moved to the Austrian half of the empire--and also that few of Austria-Hungary's
Czechs,
Poles, and
Slovenes actually moved to the Hungarian half of the empire. This is evidenced by looking at ethnic and/or linguistic maps of Austria-Hungary–such as the map on the right. (Interestingly enough, though, while most of Austria-Hungary's
Germans obviously lived in the Austrian half of the empire, there were nevertheless sizable
German communities in Hungary as well.)
Futurist110 (
talk) 00:10, 12 December 2020 (UTC)reply
The
Military Frontier was created for the purpose of encouraging migration to lands near the border with the Ottoman Empire...
AnonMoos (
talk) 00:59, 12 December 2020 (UTC)reply
Indeed, see
Germans of Croatia (meaning ethnic and linguistic Germans rather than people from Germany).
Alansplodge (
talk) 12:39, 12 December 2020 (UTC)reply
If only they had been neutral with Germany, they were still stuck in the mindset of the 1520s to 1790s when Ottomans were actually dangerous (attacking Vienna multiple times etc)
Sagittarian Milky Way (
talk) 14:39, 12 December 2020 (UTC)reply
Interestingly enough, the Croatian German population right now is a couple dozen times less than it was back in 1900. Less than 3,000 right now versus over 85,000 in 1900. You can thank the post-WWII expulsions of the
Yugoslav Germans for this.
Futurist110 (
talk) 21:47, 12 December 2020 (UTC)reply
Considering my impoverished ancestors were able to emigrate from the
Kingdom of Galicia and Lodomeria in Austria-Hungary to the United States at the turn of the century, I think it stands to reason there was some degree of internal mobility of populations as well.
199.66.69.13 (
talk) 14:25, 12 December 2020 (UTC)reply
Which city/cities were they from?
Futurist110 (
talk) 03:51, 13 December 2020 (UTC)reply
One was supposedly from
Kroscienko Wyzne. I'm not sure about the other. Genealogy gets tough with these folks once you jump back to Europe.
199.66.69.13 (
talk) 05:17, 13 December 2020 (UTC)reply
With Poles specifically or in general?
Futurist110 (
talk) 03:12, 18 December 2020 (UTC)reply