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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on April 26, 2017.

Ooku (film)

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The result of the discussion was no consensus although it'd be wise to follow AngusWOOF's advice should an article be created on any of those other films. -- Tavix ( talk) 03:41, 8 May 2017 (UTC) reply

Not in article, WP:RFD#D2. think thhis is bad because I think we do need RS on this one. Si Trew ( talk) 11:20, 19 April 2017 (UTC) reply

  • Keep per WP:DIACRITICS. It shows in the very first words of the article that "Ōoku" is the transliteration of the Japanese film title. It takes less than a minute to determine Ōoku (film) is a redirect to the same title, so the version without the diacritics should also be a redirect to the same target. Thryduulf ( talk) 22:12, 24 April 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Retarget to Ooku (disambiguation) as there are some films related to the manga Ōoku: The Inner Chambers. May need to add Ooku (2006 film) to distinguish between that and (2010 film) and (2012 film) which go to the manga. AngusWOOF ( barksniff) 23:37, 24 April 2017 (UTC) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, J 947( c) 22:08, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply
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Presidenta

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The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 10:22, 5 May 2017 (UTC) reply

"Presidenta" is president in spanish and portuguese. It is not specific to Brazil, so there is no reason to link to a specific former president thereof. bojo | talk 22:04, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply

Delete. There's no more reason for it to redirect to Rousseff than to Cristina Kirchner or, for that matter, female presidents of non-Portuguese, non-Spanish speaking countries like Vigdís Finnbogadóttir or Mary McAleese. Largoplazo ( talk) 22:13, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply
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1080 Ten Eighty Snowboarding

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The result of the discussion was Withdrawn. Sure enough, it's on the cover. Not sure how I missed that. Steel1943 ( talk) 16:34, 28 April 2017 (UTC) reply

I question the usefulness of this redirect due to the redundant use of "1080 Ten Eighty" in the title. Steel1943 ( talk) 20:44, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply

  • Keep The redundancy is on the cover title as well, perhaps to explain how to read 1080? AngusWOOF ( barksniff) 02:17, 28 April 2017 (UTC) reply
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Civil service of China

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Mongolia (region)

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Mongolia (disambiguation). (non-admin closure) Anarchyte ( work | talk) 13:12, 5 May 2017 (UTC) reply

This ought to point to Mongolia, or Mongolian Plateau, or even Mongolia (disambiguation), but not WP:SURPRISINGLY to a irredentist notion. Mangoe ( talk) 11:17, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply

Redirect to Mongolia (disambiguation). I don't think there's either a formal or popular understanding that there's a specific region that "Mongolia" designates. If someone does think that there is one and searches on this, at least show the options, which will be a subset of what's available at the existing disambiguation page. Largoplazo ( talk) 22:17, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply
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Phû-tô-gâ

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The result of the discussion was delete. Semi- WP:INVOLVED close given clear consensus and so a lengthy log page can be closed. -- Tavix ( talk) 22:08, 8 May 2017 (UTC) reply

There is no affinity between Portugal and (transliterated) zh-min-nan, so per WP:FORRED I think both should be deleted. The version without diacritics was nominated previously at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 April 22#Phu-to-ga but I have closed that discussion in favour of this one. Per WP:DIACRITICS, if the version with accents is kept or retargetted the version without should also be. Thryduulf ( talk) 11:05, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply

  • Delete both - all recent activity seems to be a result of the earlier RfD. My search didn't turn up any use of this in reliable sources, and can't parse the affinity here. Perhaps this was originally a form of inter-language redirect? Ivanvector ( Talk/ Edits) 14:35, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Comment, the language I hit on was Southern Min, here. It doesn't seem like it's used in Macau. If so, I'd say keep it since Macau was formerly Portuguese. -- Tavix ( talk) 18:31, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply
    • Southern Min is zh-min-nan. Culture of Macau#People and languages is not more specific than "Chinese". Chinese language mentions in Macau in various places, always mentioning only Cantonese and Yue (language). Wiktionary only lists the Mandarin - Pútáoyá. [1] gives "Pú​táo​yá" for the Cantonese but I don't know that site's reliability. Thryduulf ( talk) 22:56, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply
      • I don't speak Cantonese, but @ Deryck Chan: may help, as far as I know, Min Nan is not spoken in Macau, the prominent dialect is Cantonese, so Delete this one. - CHAMPION ( talk) ( contributions) ( logs) 23:14, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply
        • Cantonese for Portugal is "Pòuhtòuhngàh" (Yale) or "Pou4 Tou4 Nga4" (Jyutping). "Pútáoyá" is Mandarin (Pinyin). Deryck C. 12:47, 27 April 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Delete for insufficient language affinity. Macau has Portuguese affinity but that's an argument for keeping Portuguese-language redirects to all Macau topics, not keeping Chinese-language redirects for Portugal. In any case the relationship between Minnan and Macau is weak (not a significant native language) so the affinity is really weak. Deryck C. 12:47, 27 April 2017 (UTC) reply
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PesiḲ.

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix ( talk) 03:33, 8 May 2017 (UTC) reply

(second eubot). WP:ARTICLETITLE. A bit weird ror both, the dot at the end. First (not Eubot) has K with dot under. 'Not sure. but the combination of bad capitalsation, dot at end, and since this is a Hebrew title then transliterating as K with dot under makes me think this is a bit WP:RFD#D5 nonsense. Pesik exists, but that's a village in Afghanistan. Si Trew ( talk) 10:18, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply

  • Comment - the best I get for the glyph is "Latin capital letter K with dot below", which isn't very helpful. I don't know what language this is supposed to be so can't comment on what the target ought to be. I don't think the Afghan village is any better, but maybe a hatnote at the dab? Ivanvector ( Talk/ Edits) 14:30, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply
Indeed. The K with dot below should be turkik and that fits in with the afghanistani one, which this one isn't. On the whole I think it's nonsense. Si Trew ( talk) 19:55, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply
Pesik actually is in Azerbaijan, which would have affinity for Turkic script. But this form of the name is not mentioned at the target. I think delete is right on this one. Ivanvector ( Talk/ Edits) 13:49, 27 April 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Pesiķ. and Pesik. are abbreviations very commonly used for Pesiķta/ Pesikta (פסיקתא) in Rabbinic studies (both spellings and abbreviations seem equally common, so I'll create redirects from the versions with the underdot), but I can find none of them which use a capital K. My best guess is that this is a rtl-ltr issue? Thryduulf ( talk) 14:17, 29 April 2017 (UTC) reply
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Rueckumlaut

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The result of the discussion was keep. Deryck C. 11:01, 5 May 2017 (UTC) reply

(eubot). Well, this is rather a turn of the screw. Apparently a Germanic umlaut is called a Rueckumlaut. No it's not. Because Eubot has done it by back forming it from Rückumlaut, which does make sense. Oh, the agony. WP:RFD#D5 nonsense. It is R to section. Si Trew ( talk) 10:00, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply

  • Keep. It is completely standard for ⟨ue⟩ to be used as a fallback for ⟨ü⟩ in German words. Gorobay ( talk) 13:24, 28 April 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Keep per Gorobay. I'm not finding many actual uses of this, but they do exist, e.g. [2]. Thryduulf ( talk) 14:43, 29 April 2017 (UTC) reply
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Menage a quatre

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The result of the discussion was keep. -- Tavix ( talk) 03:32, 8 May 2017 (UTC) reply

(eubot) Well it patently isn't is it. "quatre" is not at target. I mean, it just isn't WP:RFD#D5 nonsense. Si Trew ( talk) 09:48, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply

I like in The Devil's Dictionary Bierce defines marriage as "a household consisting of a wife, a husband, and two slaves. Making in all, two". If memory serves. Si Trew ( talk) 09:49, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply

( edit conflict) "Quatre" is not at target. Si Trew ( talk) 09:52, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply

Comment I note that Ménage à quatre also redirect to Ménage à trois: probably the same outcome should apply to both redirects? A possible alternative target is foursome (group sex), but I don't think that's any better. By analogy with "Ménage à trois", I would expect "Ménage à quatre" to be about living arrangements and relationships as well as "mere" sex. Caeciliusinhorto ( talk) 08:52, 27 April 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. Caeciliusinhorto is correct that this should exist as long as Ménage à quatre does and that they should target the same place. The current target is not brilliant but it's better than anything else I can find. Thryduulf ( talk) 14:54, 29 April 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Keep derivative of the original term. But any redirects with higher numbers should require notability. AngusWOOF ( barksniff) 16:48, 29 April 2017 (UTC) reply
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Kiyikoey

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The result of the discussion was keep. Evidence of usage has been found. -- Tavix ( talk) 03:32, 8 May 2017 (UTC) reply

(eubot) WP:RFD#D5 nonsense. Not germanic but turkish Si Trew ( talk) 09:44, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply

  • Keep. This does get use, e.g. [3], [4]. There are probably more as Google is exceedingly reluctant not to show me results for Kıyıköy as well even when I explicitly exclude them. Thryduulf ( talk) 16:19, 29 April 2017 (UTC) reply
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Nurnberger chronik

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) Anarchyte ( work | talk) 13:05, 5 May 2017 (UTC) reply

(eubot) WP:RFD#D5 nonsense. Spot the caps. This newspaper was never called the "chronik". This is chronic nonsense. Si Trew ( talk) 09:44, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply

  • Comment There are a couple of other books that go by this title, but they are not notable. AngusWOOF ( barksniff) 02:02, 29 April 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. Newspaper? Please look at the target article before nominating redirects. One German name of this is Nürnberger Chronik, which makes Nurnberger chronik a perfectly reasonable redirect. -- Hegvald ( talk) 08:54, 29 April 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Speedy keep per Hegvald. The nominator (currently blocked) clearly hasn't looked at the target article before nominating this redirect. Thryduulf ( talk) 16:20, 29 April 2017 (UTC) reply
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Koese

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Oguz languages

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The result of the discussion was keep. Deryck C. 11:02, 5 May 2017 (UTC) reply

(eubot). Well, they're not, are they. They're Oghuz languages. This is a language target. You cant then, bot, invent a language called "Oguz". WP:RFD#D5 nonsense. it is an article about language. A bot can't invent its own name for this language. Si Trew ( talk) 09:37, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply

  • Keep A quick look at Google and Google Books shows this spelling has been used in quite a few reliable sources, making it a plausible search term. Sideways713 ( talk) 10:28, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply
That's all right and I'll take it. Where is the RS from Google and Google Books you had from your "quick look". You hadn't time to show us? My Google Search will have different results from yours. Si Trew ( talk) 19:58, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply
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Kuukiven kevaet

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The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 10:26, 5 May 2017 (UTC) reply

(eubot) WP:RFD##D5 nonsense. Not Germanic but Finnish Si Trew ( talk) 09:34, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply

  • Delete absolutely no evidence of human use. Thryduulf ( talk) 19:12, 29 April 2017 (UTC) reply
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Ottoemoes

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The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 10:26, 5 May 2017 (UTC) reply

(eubot) Not germanic but Hungarian. WP:RFD#D5 nonsense. this is the ooetemoes er I mean uttermost nonsense I ever seen. Si Trew ( talk) 09:33, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply

  • Delete no evidence of use unrelated to Wikipedia. Thryduulf ( talk) 19:13, 29 April 2017 (UTC) reply
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Haermakosu

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The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 11:02, 5 May 2017 (UTC) reply

(eubot) not Germanic but Estonian. Si Trew ( talk) 09:32, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply

  • Weak delete. I am finding more uses than usual for this one, I'm pretty sure that they're not of human origin but not quite 100%. Thryduulf ( talk) 19:15, 29 April 2017 (UTC) reply
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Erich kaehler

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Ski randonnée

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The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 10:26, 5 May 2017 (UTC) reply

This is a redirect from the French name of the subject (possibly mangled, as the French article is at fr:Ski de randonnée). Per WP:FORRED there doesn't seem to me be much affinity between French and the target - the page does mention that one of the styles is called randonnée but my research suggests that in English this is referred to as "randonée skiing" or more usually just "randonée". Thryduulf ( talk) 09:06, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply

So this listing would have nothing at all to do with me listing a creation by Eubot. Nothing at all. Nope. Nothing. You just happened to find it. Si Trew ( talk) 20:00, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply
Eh? You nominated the version without diacritics, I think that both that version and the version with diacritics should be discussed as a set. Rather than add the latter to an already several-days-old nomination I started a new one and procedurally closed the old one. That one of these redirects was created by eubot is frankly irrelevant to the nominatation. Thryduulf ( talk) 22:34, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply
It looks like Thryduulf has created Randonnée skiing so this should be ready for deletion. AngusWOOF ( barksniff) 16:51, 29 April 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Delete The phrase doesn't even make sense in French as far as I can tell. A ski tour would be une randonnée de ski, and ski de randonnée is one term for cross-country (Nordic) skiing. "Ski randonnee" looks like an interlanguage bastardization. In any event, there is no noteworthy connection between the French language and this activity. Largoplazo ( talk) 19:05, 29 April 2017 (UTC) reply
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Fürst, Bibl. Jud.

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Hyppyjae

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The result of the discussion was delete all. The consensus is that the "source" redirect itself (Hyppyjä) lacks affinity so it and all derived redirects should be deleted. Deryck C. 10:28, 5 May 2017 (UTC) reply

(eubot). Well what is there to say about this one. I know how it got there but this is FUCKING WP:RFD#D5 NONSENSE. There. I said it. Thanks. Si Trew ( talk) 08:42, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply

I am FED UP WITH THAT BOT THINKING IT KNOWS ABOUT LANGUAGE. Hippos is Greek for horse as in hippopotamus, river horse, hippodrome, and so on. Then give it a sugar lump, horse likes a sugar lump, that makes a horse hyppy. Then a birdie comes on its rump and it goes neigh or jae. Just.... please.... kill it... now... please. Si Trew ( talk) 08:44, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply
Just please kill it. WP:RFD#D5 nonsense. Si Trew ( talk) 08:45, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply
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Koeroes-er

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The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 10:28, 5 May 2017 (UTC) reply

(eubot) when the first words of the WP:FIRSTSENTENCE say this is what it is in in Hungarian (and other languages afterwards), I don't think a bot should make up nonsense to say this is what it isn't'. WP:RFD#D5 patent nonsense Si Trew ( talk) 08:29, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply

  • Delete. No evidence of use unrelated to Wikipedia. Thryduulf ( talk) 19:25, 29 April 2017 (UTC) reply
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Orlacs Haende

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Duezguen TV

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Moelten

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) Anarchyte ( work | talk) 13:08, 5 May 2017 (UTC) reply

(eubot) strictly speaking this is fine, but obviously molten goes somewhere else. At least I hope it does. Si Trew ( talk) 08:23, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply

Yes, molten goes to Melting. to me this is a bit WP:XY. It's probably OK but I dunno, just seems slightly odd. Weak keep for me. Si Trew ( talk) 08:25, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Keep this gets a lot of use, entirely for the settlement in South Tyrol. There isn't an XY issue with "molten" either as it redirects to Melting, the primary topic, with a hatnote pointing to Molten (disambiguation) that lists the settlement. Thryduulf ( talk) 19:39, 29 April 2017 (UTC) reply
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Gyergyocsomafalva

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The result of the discussion was keep. Deryck C. 11:03, 5 May 2017 (UTC) reply

(eubot). We really ought to make a template {{ R from nonsense}} if this is kept. Nonsense WP:RFD#D5 back formed from the Hungarian to a commune in Romania (that would have been in Hungary before Trianon). Oh this oh {{ R from nonsense}} someone make it. Si Trew ( talk) 08:16, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply

  • Keep A reader who is looking for information about the place with this name, but is unable to type or copy the "ó", would have to use this. Without a redirect it could probably be found from the search results but it's easier to take them directly to the page if there's nothing else it could refer to. Although it's in Romania, Hungarian is the main ethnicity and language there. Peter James ( talk) 20:17, 28 April 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Keep per Peter James. Thryduulf ( talk) 19:40, 29 April 2017 (UTC) reply
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Teemu Maeki

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Esko Jaervinen

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Kuenneth formula

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The result of the discussion was keep. Deryck C. 11:04, 5 May 2017 (UTC) reply

(eubot) well it just patently isn't, is it WP:RFD#D5 nonsense. Si Trew ( talk) 08:12, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply

  • Speedy keep. A spectacular failure of WP:BEFORE here - do a google search for Kuenneth formula and you find that this is used in several places, add quotes for many, many more. Thryduulf ( talk) 23:58, 29 April 2017 (UTC) reply
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1a neurones

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Zuerich number

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The result of the discussion was keep. Deryck C. 11:03, 5 May 2017 (UTC) reply

(eubot) I think we have had this before, but not on matheatics. The tendency is to keep on "Zuerich", but when subjects are this scientific I think we discuss, then, probably keep. Si Trew ( talk) 08:07, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply

  • Speedy keep. If the nominator had spent 1 minute looking at google before listing it here they would see there is no need to discuss this before keeping it - as expected it's in widespread use. Thryduulf ( talk) 00:05, 30 April 2017 (UTC) reply
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Fox Sports Tuerkiye

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The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 10:29, 5 May 2017 (UTC) reply

(eubot) WP:RFD#D5 nonsense, not Germanic but Tuerkish. Si Trew ( talk) 07:47, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply

  • Delete. Not used at all outside this redirect and derivatives. Thryduulf ( talk) 00:07, 30 April 2017 (UTC) reply
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Who Is It (Bjoerk song)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 10:29, 5 May 2017 (UTC) reply

(eubot) I think we have pretty strong consensus that this singer in English is not called "Bjoerk". WP:RFD#D5 nonsense. Si Trew ( talk) 07:46, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply

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1080deg Snowboarding

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The result of the discussion was keep. Deryck C. 10:29, 5 May 2017 (UTC) reply

(eubot) WP:RFD#D5 nonsense. Nobody is going to search for "1080deg". Si Trew ( talk) 07:45, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply

  • Keep - harmless. Ivanvector ( Talk/ Edits) 13:54, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Keep deg is often used as an alphanumeric expression of ° AngusWOOF ( barksniff) 16:35, 29 April 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Keep this (or 1080 deg Snowboarding) is how it is represented in the URL of almost every page that has it in the title, which means it's very likely that people who search by URL will expect the same to be true of Wikipedia's article. Thryduulf ( talk) 00:11, 30 April 2017 (UTC) reply
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Koenugard

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The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 10:29, 5 May 2017 (UTC) reply

(eubot) WP:RFD#D5 nonsense. Do you know what the English is for Kiev? "Kiev". Not "koenugard". back-formation and a stupid one. Si Trew ( talk) 07:43, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply

  • Delete per WP:FORRED, per Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2014 July 19#Könugård, same with Konugard which I'll add. Name not discussed at target. Ivanvector ( Talk/ Edits) 13:52, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Comment. It appears that the Old Norse name of Kiev (at a time when it was ruled by a dynasty of Scandinavian origin) was Kønugarðr (see Elsa Melin's article from ANF, listing a number of variants), which ironically is not a redirect anywhere. Since there was no standardized form or spelling of this name, it would be perfectly reasonable to use variants, including modernized ones and ones without diacritics to point at the most relevant article. The only issue is that the Norse name does not seem to be included either in the Kiev article or in the History of Kiev, as it probably should be. -- Hegvald ( talk) 09:22, 29 April 2017 (UTC) reply
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Goell

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Roger Saeljoe

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The result of the discussion was keep. Deryck C. 10:30, 5 May 2017 (UTC) reply

(eubt) I know that we on the whole keep Swedish/Germanic ones, but I think this is too far out with the surname. WP:RFD#D5 nonsense, [[W{:MADEUP]]. Si Trew ( talk) Si Trew ( talk) 07:39, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply

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Taoyuean

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The result of the discussion was delete. Thryduulf ( talk) 19:34, 6 May 2017 (UTC) reply

well this redirects to a disambiguation page. Probably User:Siuenti can advise on this one. It has been back-formed by the bot, is it OK? Nothing at the DAB has this spelling, which is what DABs are supposed to do, so this is kinda not disambiguating in any way. Weak delete for now. Si Trew ( talk) 07:37, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply

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Wszyscy jestesmy Chrystusami

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The result of the discussion was keep. Deryck C. 10:51, 5 May 2017 (UTC) reply

(eubot). Created from the Polish. But "We're All Christs" in English is "We're All Christs" says so at target. It does not say this unspeakable collocation of vocables made up by Eubot. WP:RFD#D5 nonsense. Made up from Wszyscy jesteśmy Chrystusami. That's fine, although I hesitate as marking {{ R from other language|pl|en}} I should I guess. This is nonsense. Si Trew ( talk) 07:23, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply

I have thus done and also as {{ R from other name}}. I still think this is pushing it. You can't fart arse around with diacritics like that. It's not German. Si Trew ( talk) 07:27, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply
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Lake Aaeninen

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The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 10:52, 5 May 2017 (UTC) reply

(eubot) The R is a back-formation from "Finnish: Ääninen or Äänisjärvi" as given in lede. there are four or five languages given in lede. We don't need to make them up. WP:RFD#D5 nonsense Si Trew ( talk) 07:21, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply

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Soul Special City

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Eragon (book)

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The result of the discussion was keep per WP:TRAINWRECK. AngusWOOF does have some valid points that might be worth looking into, but it'd be in the best interest to discuss these individually. If anybody still wants to pursue deletion, please feel free to renominate those specific redirects unbundled. -- Tavix ( talk) 03:51, 8 May 2017 (UTC) reply

None of these titles are at the target. We are not a book club. The target is the first novel published by this writer and I think these are WP:PROMO, really, probably not by the writer but by the publisher. I can't prove that. But that would be my statement in court. Every little phrase that is not the title? "(book)" "(novel)" which is it then? I am sure it is not the author but their publisher said throw anything in on Wikipedia. It might get you hits. You notice eight out of the nine talk pages are red? I am NOT going to check the blue one. Si Trew ( talk) 07:04, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply

I mean I am deliberately not checking it. Si Trew ( talk) 07:09, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply
I will give you my opinion. I write crap for my living, namely software. The author writes crap for his living, namely pulp fiction. Both of us believe in what we do and want to make it great. I don't think that then to say "let's take that phrase and put it on Wikipedia" is a great idea. Do you want to have seven lines of code that I wrote yesterday on Wikpedia just cos it was a quite nice bit of code? No. I think the author would be ashamed of the publisher. Just WP:RFD#DELETE all with extreme prejudice. I can see under Galician language that Airagon can go to Aragon but we can't do that until these are killed.
  • Keep all - the nominator disliking the work of the creator of Eragon is not valid reason to delete anything on Wikipedia. It's too bad you refused to check that one talk page because it links to this discussion, in which several arguments were made in favour of creating that redirect, and with which I agree. Anyway, of the redirects listed here, most are topics discussed at the target, some are unnecessary disambiguation and/or alternate spellings, and all see moderate use according to stats. None are harmful. Ivanvector ( Talk/ Edits) 13:38, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply


Okay here we go:

  • Keep Eragon (book), Eragon (novel)
  • Move Shade in Eragon to Shade (Inheritance Cycle) and delete Shade in Eragon. Add {{ R from fictional element}}
  • Delete Adurna. It's some spell in the book series, but isn't discussed at all in the summary or the settings. The series isn't so notable for the equivalent of List of spells in Harry Potter.
  • Retarget Morzan (Inheritance) to List of Inheritance Cycle characters#Morzan Add {{ R from fictional character}}
  • Weak delete Isidar Mithrim, not mentioned in the summary. Although Isirdar Mithrim had an AFD that kept it, if it were very important, it should be included in a summary as a key object (like "the city's featured gem, Isidar Mithrim, is destroyed").
  • Weak delete Battle under Farthen Dûr and Battle under Farthen Dur, sounds like a chapter title. There seems to be a big fight at the end of the novel. Add tag {{ R from fictional location}} or {{ R from fictional element}} Keep only if the book or its sequels commonly refer to the event as such.
  • Weak delete: Airagon - does this attract searches by sound? It doesn't seem like that spelling takes primary topic over Aragon.
  • Keep Zar'oc as it is a typo of Zar'roc, a notable sword in Eragon Add {{ R from fictional element}}
  • Delete Joermunder, not listed in the characters, locations, or summary.

Basically if it's mentioned in the summary or characters then keep, otherwise delete for not being that notable. Shade should be different as that term is common to the novel series, but it should not be Shade in Eragon. This isn't wikia, and the locations and characters aren't so notable that they should get independent discussion from the book series for an article. AngusWOOF ( barksniff) 22:13, 28 April 2017 (UTC) updated 22:47, 28 April 2017 (UTC) reply

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Eero Einar Boeoek

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The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 10:56, 5 May 2017 (UTC) reply

(eubot). Um.... WP:RFD#D5 nonsense bork bork bork (Not Swedish, but Finnish. Or was before encheferized by Eubot) Si Trew ( talk) 06:52, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply

  • Added Eero Boeoek (also eubot) to this. I would say delete both, since English-language sources consistently spell his name "Book" and not "Boeoek" when the letter Ö is not available. Sideways713 ( talk) 10:52, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per Sideways713. While the transliteration may be valid it is implausible that an English-language source would produce this rather than simply dropping the diacritics. Ivanvector ( Talk/ Edits) 13:34, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Delete I've seen German words and names written like this (e.g. Roentgen for Röntgen) but never Finnish. MaxBrowne ( talk) 13:48, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply
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O'bama

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) f e minist 07:15, 3 May 2017 (UTC) reply

Retarget to There's No One as Irish as Barack O'Bama perhaps, otherwise its not a likely typo. - CHAMPION ( talk) ( contributions) ( logs) 06:41, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply

  • Keep as a plausible typo of "Obama", especially considering that the "O" is pronounced as a long "O" sound. Retargeting to There's No One as Irish as Barack O'Bama would be essentially retargeting a partial title match (not a subtitle) to an applicable target, and that could be considered misleading since it locks readers into first (or only) viewing a topic they may have not intended to find. Steel1943 ( talk) 07:45, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply
That's bloody cheating, User:Champion and User:Steel1943 while my back is turned. Well found. Do you want to combine with what I suggested? Si Trew ( talk) 08:31, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply
I know redirects don't have to be neutral but they don't have to be deliberately political either. But I don't think anyone important in the US ever suggested he was from Ireland ("O'Bama"), They suggested he was from a lot of other places, but not that. Maybe that's just WP:RFD#D5 nonsense then. Nice finds. Si Trew ( talk) 08:35, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply
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ÑAndubay

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The result of the discussion was delete both. Thryduulf ( talk) 20:10, 6 May 2017 (UTC) reply

The first is a rather odd per WP:ARTICLETITLE and I think unnecesary. The second is made by our friend User:Eubot from it. I think both go delete as clutter. I know others will have other opionions on these, hence listing. (Certainly, the eubot one is not a {{ R from title without diacritics}}. Perhaps call, although I call him yesterday and I don't want to overwhelm him, perhaps call User:Plantdrew on this one. I can well understand it may be called "Ñandubay", although it isn't at the target (we can add that for sure, but expert Plantdrew is better at this than me, he has more books and references for it than I do. I just have Haynes Manuals). What it certainly isn't called is "NAnadubay". Si Trew ( talk) 06:38, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply

  • Delete, unlikely bot creations. — Kusma ( t· c) 06:42, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply

(ec) My WP:BEFORE just sends me back to Wikipedia except for a hotel in Brazil called "El..." these were created from' the ones without diacritics. Wait for the expert. I can't find in my limited reference this plant was ever called this, but User:Plantdrew will give a definitive answer on this one. Si Trew ( talk) 06:45, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply

Hahaha actually out of sheer coincidence User:Plantdrew edited the target on 17 April, with {{ diff|715634358}}. Changed the lede to edit the lede but kept the name "nandubay". That is pure coincidence I am not pointing fingers, Plantdrew is brilliant at botanical stuff. But I think this does make these a bit WP:RFD#D5 if they weren't already. Shame there is not a WP:COMMONNAME in the infobox. Si Trew ( talk) 06:50, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Reproducing here the second sentence from the target: "Common names include algarrobillo, espinillo, ibopé-morotí, and ñandubay." (emphasis in original) The nominator claims to have done WP:BEFORE which leaves me baffled as to how they missed this, but instead went on an adventure through Google and rambling about the interests and expertise of other users, eventually landing at the utterly confusing "it isn't at the target". It is at the target, in the second goddamn sentence and in bold.
Nonetheless, delete, the capitalization of the second letter is odd and unnecessary. Redirects not apparently in use. Ivanvector ( Talk/ Edits) 13:32, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Delete There are probably hundreds of these. Polbot created thousands of articles on IUCN redlisted species along with redirects from common names (the common names were listed at IUCN). Problem is, Polbot couldn't handle common names with diacritics, and made a bunch of miscapitalized redirects when diacritics were present. Eubot then came along and made more variants based on Polbot's miscapitalization. The other issue is that IUCN had many non-English common names listed as being English; many of them have since been moved to the appropriate language, and as part of that process the number of common names was reduced to one per language. I have no doubt that (based on similar cases) "ñandubay" was previously listed as a common name at IUCN, but there's no reason to keep redirects with screwed up capitalization. Plantdrew ( talk) 20:05, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply
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Joni Pitkaenen

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) f e minist 07:15, 3 May 2017 (UTC) reply

(eubot) Not Germanic but Finnish. WP:RFD#D5 nonsense. Si Trew ( talk) 06:32, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply

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Vasaramaeki

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) f e minist 07:15, 3 May 2017 (UTC) reply

(eubot) Not Germanic but Finnish. WP:RFD#D5 nonsense. Si Trew ( talk) 06:31, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply

  • Keep - valid transliteration, example of wild usage. Ivanvector ( Talk/ Edits) 13:23, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Keep - someone who uses the redirect spelling is likely looking for the redirect target. Rlendog ( talk) 14:36, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply
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Nobama

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The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 10:56, 5 May 2017 (UTC) reply
Previous RfDs for this redirect and similar redirects:

Not at target, nonexistent section. - CHAMPION ( talk) ( contributions) ( logs) 06:27, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply

  • Comment - Formerly mentioned there; removed here. —  Godsy ( TALK CONT) 05:14, 27 April 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. We don't have anything about this on Wikipedia that I or google can find so a redirect is misleading. Thryduulf ( talk) 14:03, 30 April 2017 (UTC) reply
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Elan vital (philosophy)

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) f e minist 07:14, 3 May 2017 (UTC) reply

(eubot).. I know, I know. This is already a disambiguation with the (philosophy) at which the hatnote says "for other uses see Elan Vital (disambiguation) (without the acute accent). It is vaguely harmless but just hinders, not helps, a search. Like, how many ways do you want to disambiguate something before it becomes so ambiguous? This is one of those. Si Trew ( talk) 06:17, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply

From a small sample of 1 rather annoyed editor, on a vox pop I was told "this is --- useless." Then Extrapolating to the 8 or 9 million individual readers we get every day, I would say that 8 or 9 million readers would find this bloody useless. The sample also said that it took him three attempts to get to put this in because of this blocking redirect. The sample, who prefers to remain anonymous, also said "it sends people round the houses. There is no use in it". Si Trew ( talk) 06:21, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply
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Ooegonia

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USVIT

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Armas Aikiae

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The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 10:57, 5 May 2017 (UTC) reply

(eubot) not Germanic language but Finnish language. WP:RFD#D5 nonsense. Si Trew ( talk) 05:41, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply

  • Delete as implausible, given the use of Ä->A and ä->ae in the same redirect. Sideways713 ( talk) 12:48, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Delete - implausible, too many transliteration methods, per Sideways713. Ivanvector ( Talk/ Edits) 13:12, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply
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Kyto

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) f e minist 12:39, 2 May 2017 (UTC) reply

(eubot). You can imagine why I am bring this. Because I can see that it could be dabbed with Kyoto and so forth. Just because eubot "got there first" does not mean it is the best target. I think we should discuss this one. Target is an island in Findland, not a major capital city. Si Trew ( talk) 05:33, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply

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Jaervenpaeae railway station

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Casar von Hofacker

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) f e minist 12:39, 2 May 2017 (UTC) reply

oh dear. The target has it as Caeser (sometimes " Cäsar") with a reference for that right next to it in WP:FIRSTSENTENCE. I think this eubout creation makes it a bit nonsense, since he was not known as "Casar" in English and neither was Julius Casar and so on. Si Trew ( talk) 05:07, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply

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Magician of faith

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The result of the discussion was soft delete as unopposed. Deryck C. 10:58, 5 May 2017 (UTC) reply

Redirect is for a single non-notable Yu-Gi-Oh! card that is not mentioned anywhere in the target article and thus, should be deleted. 173.3.79.41 ( talk) 02:08, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply

  • Delete as there is no mention of "magician of faith" anywhere on Wikipedia. This title was originally intended as an article, but even if the first and only article revision was cleaned up, spell checked and wikified you'd be left with just "Magician of faith is a forbidden card in the Yu-Gi-Oh! Trading Card Game." which wouldn't stand a cat in hell's chance at surviving AfD (it may even get speedy deleted under criterion WP:CSD#A3 (no content)) so reverting to what is almost certainly the most appallingly formatted sub-stub I have ever seen (and I've been on Wikipedia nearly 12½ years) would be a waste of everyone's time. Thryduulf ( talk) 14:39, 30 April 2017 (UTC) reply
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0bama

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) f e minist 12:39, 2 May 2017 (UTC) reply

Not sure if this is a likely typo or whether it should be deleted, but it has received a total of 329 pageviews prior to this nomination, thus I am leaning between weak keep and weak delete, cosidering O and 0 are not that close on a Qwerty keyboard. - CHAMPION ( talk) ( contributions) ( logs) 01:54, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply

Do we have Zero-Bama or anything like that? I mean, was this used as a pejorative term? I don't think so, although I could see that it could be " 0-bama" in an election campaign, but we don't have that either. Si Trew ( talk) 05:10, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply
I am not American, although I follow politics. I don't remember him being called "Zero bama". I remember him being called a lot of other things. I think Delete in the absence of WP:RS.
To add to Champ's argument, the 0 key on my HU keyboard is next door to the 1 not next door to the 9. Still, it is nowhere near the O. If you touch type (I am on English layout at the moment but just looked down) then both ar on right ring finger, but then a touch-typist should not make that mistake. Si Trew ( talk) 05:13, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply
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Wall of text

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Party Unity My Ass

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The result of the discussion was Withdrawn per this edit. ( non-admin closure) Steel1943 ( talk) 03:23, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply

This redirect is non-neutral and only serves to mock "People United Means Action". It is neither a common misnomer nor typo. No pages in the article name-space link to it. In my opinion it should be deleted for neutrality reasons. WP:RNEUTRAL SVTCobra ( talk) 00:14, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply

  • The target article contains this exact phrase in the second paragraph of the origin section. ~ GB fan 00:25, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply
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