Jeff Dunham and Achmed
Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 8 Oct 2011 at 18:58:26 (UTC)
- Reason
- A good representation of the comedian, hard to get a free image like this one, good quality, EV, res
- Articles in which this image appears
- Jeff Dunham, Jihad satire, Puppet
- Creator
- Richard Mclaren
- Support as nominator -- Muhammad (talk) 18:58, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
- I think I'm correct in thinking that toys and models and such aren't free in the US, even if the actual photo is. What is the extent of the OTRS? Does it allow permission for using the photo, or is it from the puppet builder?
Matthewedwards :
Chat 00:09, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
- The puppet is clearly included in context. The portrait is of Dunham doing what Dunham does; there are many such photos with him holding his puppets, and these do not infringe on the rights of the person who owns the puppet. See
this Commons policy. This is clearly a very different photograph to, say,
this one, where we would have to take into account the rights of the individual who owns the copyrights of the puppet's design (that said, most of the protection may well come from trademarks, as opposed to copyrights). Now, as I'm posting something like this, I would like to make it clear that
I am not a lawyer, but it is worth mentioning that the email releasing the photo came from a firm of lawyers representing the subject, who made quite clear what the copyright status of the image was.
J Milburn (
talk) 15:24, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
- OK, good to know Matthewedwards : Chat 20:19, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
- The puppet is clearly included in context. The portrait is of Dunham doing what Dunham does; there are many such photos with him holding his puppets, and these do not infringe on the rights of the person who owns the puppet. See
this Commons policy. This is clearly a very different photograph to, say,
this one, where we would have to take into account the rights of the individual who owns the copyrights of the puppet's design (that said, most of the protection may well come from trademarks, as opposed to copyrights). Now, as I'm posting something like this, I would like to make it clear that
I am not a lawyer, but it is worth mentioning that the email releasing the photo came from a firm of lawyers representing the subject, who made quite clear what the copyright status of the image was.
J Milburn (
talk) 15:24, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
- Support for reasons stated by nominator. Very nice photo. JBarta ( talk) 11:06, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
- Support per nom. I don't know who this is, but image is good and a quick check suggests it's informative. -- jjron ( talk) 11:23, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
- Support. Loving the picture, just the kind of thing I like to see here. J Milburn ( talk) 15:24, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
- Support true photo art! -- Alchemist-hp ( talk) 19:20, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
- Support JJ Harrison ( talk) 00:09, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
- There are at least several little faults: Jeff could be looking a bit more straight to the camera, and his left wrist and back should be within the picture (i.e. no cropped). Otherwise the composition is remarkable, and on the yes/no scale I would lean to yes.
Materialscientist (
talk) 00:47, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
- If his left hand were in the photo, the subjects would be further off to the right. Then if you uncropped a little on the right, you would lose that "up close & personal" feeling the photo imparts. I think it's perfect just the way it is.
JBarta (
talk) 01:52, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
- I hear you, but adding 5% to the left and right to include the missing 4 fingers and that cropped half-inch of the jacket won't hurt that "up close & personal" feeling :-). I knew we can't expect this from an OTRS photo, and that wrist is tough to recreate, thus my vote. Materialscientist ( talk) 06:30, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
- If his left hand were in the photo, the subjects would be further off to the right. Then if you uncropped a little on the right, you would lose that "up close & personal" feeling the photo imparts. I think it's perfect just the way it is.
JBarta (
talk) 01:52, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
- Support: Copyright status seems clear, high resolution and detail. High EV. Crisco 1492 ( talk) 05:31, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
- Weak support, it's great we've got this image ("I kill you!!!"), but the composition, as people above have mentioned, is not ideal. Aaadddaaammm ( talk) 07:16, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
- Support Great addition to the encyclopedia. upstate NYer 19:11, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
Promoted File:Jeff Dunham and Achmed.JPG -- Makeemlighter ( talk) 20:46, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
