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Category:Defunct English Football League clubs

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:English Football League clubs. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 04:23, 11 June 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: In a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football regarding English Football League club categories, it was pointed out that this appears to be an unnecessary outlier: no other leagues have a defunct subcat, instead it tends to go by nation, then into regions if sufficiently populated - England has a full set of defunct football clubs by county. Although it has existed since 2011, seems to be superfluous. Crowsus ( talk) 23:29, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply

Note: a discussion on a possible merge target is open at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 May 31#Category:Former English Football League clubs Kaffet i halsen ( talk) 14:08, 31 May 2023 (UTC) reply

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Category:21st-century women presidents in Europe

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Women presidents in Europe. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 04:25, 11 June 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Indirectly WP:G4 per the 2010 "20th and 21st-century rulers" CfD. Today, I was building up new branches of the "presidents" and "prime ministers" trees, when I ran into this old but well-established precedent from 2010 not to categorise 20th and 21st-century "rulers" by century. This included "heads of government", "monarchs", "national presidents", and "viceregal rulers". 91 categories were deleted in total, while only 7 (including Category:21st-century presidents of the United States) had no consensus. 17 of these categories have been re-created since (which shouldn't happen per WP:G4). Although none of these are the four "by century" cats I have created today, I have gotten very close by creating Category:21st-century prime ministers in Europe, while Category:21st-century heads of government in Europe was deleted in 2010. The 2010 rationale for deleting all these "20th and 21st-century rulers" categories still holds true today: it complicates category trees, clutters article, and arbitrarily divides categories by time-bands which bear no relation to the widely-accepted historical epochs. I have found that to be correct. However, before nominating all such categories for deletion/merging again with one swift stroke, I prefer nominating just 1 of the four I created today for upmerging (un-splitting), as a test case to see if we still agree on the validity of the 2010 CfD's closure. As I could only find 4 women presidents in Europe that did not hold office in the 21st century, but the 20th, this is the easiest target for un-splitting back to just Category:Women presidents in Europe. If we all agree on that, we can look at further steps. Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw ( talk) 21:59, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply
PS: To be honest, for the next 77 years we probably won't need a Category:22nd-century women presidents in Europe category, and we do not have to worry about the 4 pre-2000 female European presidents taking up too much space in that now otherwise empty category. Putting them all in one single century-less category seems perfectly doable. The continent category trees (which the 2010 CfD did not question) should provide sufficient subdivision. Nederlandse Leeuw ( talk) 22:27, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Merge (also) per WP:OCEGRS, women presidents specifically of the 21st century (or separately of the 20th century) is very unlikely to become a notable stand-alone topic. Marcocapelle ( talk) 04:33, 31 May 2023 (UTC) reply
    I provisionally agree. Would " Category:21st-century presidents in Europe" (without a gender in the name) be a notable stand-alone topic? Because that is going to be the next question. Gender wasn't really an issue for the 2010 CfD; overcategorisation "by century" (specifically the 20th and 21st) was. Nederlandse Leeuw ( talk) 07:57, 31 May 2023 (UTC) reply
    • The difference is that by nationality and by period are "standard" diffusion criteria. That does not apply to diffusion by gender (which is applicable here), ethnicity, religion or sexual orientation. Marcocapelle ( talk) 18:20, 31 May 2023 (UTC) reply
      "Women" / "Female" is a well-established defining trait for politicians. Anyway, my question was: Would " Category:21st-century presidents in Europe" be a notable stand-alone topic? Or should we also let go of the "21st-century" bit? Nederlandse Leeuw ( talk) 18:55, 31 May 2023 (UTC) reply
      • My personal opinion is that we should let go of all 20th and 21st century biography categories because 99% of Wikipedia biographies are about 20th- and 21st-century people. But I am quite sure that there is no consensus for that. Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:48, 1 June 2023 (UTC) reply
        I agree that there probably won't be a consensus for that. But at least the 2010 CfD established a consensus for deleting 20th- and 21st-century categories for "heads of government", "monarchs", "national presidents", and "viceregal rulers". So we could apply/enforce that consensus right now to those categories, especially those that have been re-created after being deleted by the 2010 CfD. Nederlandse Leeuw ( talk) 10:52, 2 June 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:Republic of Ireland international futsal players

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 04:23, 11 June 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: No other 'futsal players by national team' categories exist for other countries, as given the relatively few number of notable futsal players, many will have played for their national team. This differs from football, where there are an extremely large number of notable players who have not played for a national team. This nomination follows the outcome of a similar CfD from last month. S.A. Julio ( talk) 21:52, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply
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Assassinated American county and local politicians by time

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The result of the discussion was: merge all subcats to Category:Assassinated American politicians. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 16:40, 19 June 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Even more WP:SMALLCATs in the Category:Assassinated politicians by time tree created earlier this month by Thinker78 ( talk · contribs). Overall, the tree is very hard to navigate due to the numerous WP:SMALLCATs and because some pages, such as the 21st century one, are not in all relevant parents. – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 21:21, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply
@ LaundryPizza03 can you be respectful of other editors work and abide by the civility policy? It was hours of work categorizing things and your uncollegial behavior is uncalled for. Sincerely, Thinker78 (talk) 21:26, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply
I'm concerned that you created too many tiny categories and numerous redundant levels, and that some of the categories you created are incompletely categorized, which inhibits navigation and makes it harder to maintain the category tree. – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 21:32, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply
I have a statistical mentality and my focus is in trying to help the reader as much as possible. I saw patterns in the assassinated politicians and I simply reflected those patterns in the trees. Some categories may be populated by a single page but the important issue is that said categories belong to a parent category that help having all pages categorized and also helps visualizing the differences.
For example, I am planning on categorizing assassinated politicians by state in order for the reader to be able to go faster to the relevant info when looking for only politicians assassinated in certain state. Some states may not have none, others probably will have only one page and yet others will have several.
Per WP:CATEGORY, The central goal of the category system is to provide navigational links to Wikipedia pages in a hierarchy of categories which readers, knowing essential—defining—characteristics of a topic, can browse and quickly find sets of pages on topics that are defined by those characteristics. Sincerely, Thinker78 (talk) 21:49, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply
I agree that civility is important, and that there is no reason for calling out a creator in thus manner in a rationale (even though I understand the frustration). But I must say that it is also important to seriously consider if creating certain categories is really necessary. Just a few hours ago I discovered that I shouldn't have created four "21st-century Fooians" categories, and I'm now looking to revert my own creations.
Before assuming something will help navigation, we must as ourselves questions. Is it likely that readers are going to look for "19th century assassinated American county and local politicians" when they want to know which, say, Kentucky politicians have ever been killed? I don't think so. Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw ( talk) 00:07, 31 May 2023 (UTC) reply
According to the mentioned WP:CATEGORY guidance, we provide categories to provide navigational links to browse. When I stumbled on the Category:Assassinated American politicians I became interested in the topic and started having questions and as I was seeking to answer those questions I started categorizing to answer them. For example, which politicians where killed in the 20th century? Which were federal and which were state officials? And so on.
I understand that categories in general are not visited a lot. But if I can help those few specialized readers or researchers have an easier time finding information, I am happy. Regards, Thinker78 (talk) 02:52, 31 May 2023 (UTC) reply
  • If merged, I'd rather upmerge the whole tree of Category:Assassinated American county and local politicians: "county and local politicians" is a case of WP:OCMISC. Marcocapelle ( talk) 21:29, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply
    I don't think WP:OCMISC is relevant here. It precisely states the opposite of this case. I guess you are highlighting, "It is not necessary to completely empty every parent category into subcategories." But my understanding is that sentence is specifically part of the whole paragraph, whose main theme is, "Do not categorize articles into "miscellaneous", "other", "not otherwise specified" or "remainder" categories."
    Basically the main point is that if there are no proper categories for certain pages, it is not necessary to categorize them if one doesn't have a specific, relevant category. Which is not the case here as it has a specific and relevant category which has actually a few pages contained therein. Regards, Thinker78 (talk) 21:59, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply
    • This is not a specific relevant category. After presidents, senators, governors and the like this is just the big bowl of "other" politicians. Marcocapelle ( talk) 04:40, 31 May 2023 (UTC) reply
      You are incorrect. County and local jurisdictions is the regular denomination in the United States used in the government, courts, reliable sources, and people, not something I made up. Regards, Thinker78 (talk) 16:48, 31 May 2023 (UTC) reply
      "County and local" is a miscellaneous denomination, because there's no reliable organizational level below the state level, even within most individual states. Ergo, WP:OCMISC. - car chasm ( talk) 04:01, 3 June 2023 (UTC) reply
      County and local is a regularly used category in the United States to denote jurisdictions below the state. At the top of the hierarchy is federal, then state, then county and local. [1] [2] [3] Thinker78 (talk) 01:59, 5 June 2023 (UTC) reply
      @ Carchasm There is an existing Category:Local politicians in the United States. Regards, Thinker78 (talk) 00:33, 10 June 2023 (UTC) reply
      sounds like something that should be nominated for deletion. looking at the contents, that one is WP:OCMISC as well. - car chasm ( talk) 03:03, 10 June 2023 (UTC) reply
      There was a CfD 10 years ago. Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2013 April 24#American local politicians with the result of keep Category:Local political office-holders in the United States; delete Category:American local politicians. But it was ten years ago and there are many more new parent categories since then. Regardless, the term "local" was recognized as appropriate. Thinker78 (talk) 20:33, 10 June 2023 (UTC) reply
      @ Marcocapelle See above. Regards, Thinker78 (talk) 17:44, 11 June 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Merge per nom. Nederlandse Leeuw ( talk) 23:57, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose Categories with 5 articles are not small categories, and there are probably more extant Wikipedia articles that belong in these categories. They are brand new and Thinker78 probably did not have the time to locate more articles. Dimadick ( talk) 04:39, 31 May 2023 (UTC) reply
  •  Comment: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2010 March 27#20th and 21st-century rulers This 2010 CfD appears to be highly relevant to this CfM. Although these county and local politicians are probably not classified as "rulers" or "heads of state and government", much the same principles and practical issues seem to apply. The overcategorisation "by century" (specifically the 20th and 21st) was recognised as causing systemic navigational problems and article-bottom-clutter problems: In most cases it complicates category trees, clutters article, and arbitrarily divides categories by time-bands which bear no relation to the widely-accepted historical epochs. Those are general concerns, but in numerous previous discussions there has been particularly strong resistance to applying these categories to 20th and 21st-century people, where the category clutter is already severe. This applies particularly strongly to heads of state and government....
I would not be opposed to Upmerging the country-wide "by century" categories either. Because let's survey:
Grand total: 72 P. Given that categories can house 200 items before needing a "next page", there is no need for this subdivision "by century", let alone "by decade", nor a separate "county and local" cat, nor a separate "by type" cat. These all fit in one single Category:Assassinated American politicians, where 66 of these 72 P are already in. So.....
About the clutter in some articles in the category section, maybe we should have a better system to organize categories in articles. I am familiar with clutter in the body of articles, but I am not in the end matter. When does it become clutter? About the American politicians, that's not the topic of this thread.
"divides categories by time-bands which bear no relation to the widely-accepted historical epochs". How does that apply in American history? I don't think it does very much. There are no Middle Ages politicians that we know of in the historical record in America for example. And readers are more familiar with centuries than niche historical periods in America. Regards, Thinker78 (talk) 17:21, 31 May 2023 (UTC) reply
Instead of assuming "it does not very much apply in American history", you could also read what the 2010 CfD actually said, namely: In some cases, an attempt has been made to address the clutter problem by sub-categorising an existing category for holders of a particular office, such as Category:Presidents of the United States. That example illustrates rather well how flawed this idea is: to avoid the clutter caused by existence of the people-by-century categories, the 44 presidents of the United States have been split into 4 sub-categories, which impedes navigation and places turn-of-the-century presidents such as Bill Clinton in two categories for that one office ( Category:20th-century presidents of the United States and Category:21st-century presidents of the United States). Further efforts to fix this mess by sub-categorising will only compound the problem, and whatever we do we are left with categories which don't much help navigation. The best solution is to just delete these categories, before more well-intentioned editors put further effort into fixing the unfixable. The nominator explicitly addressed American politicians as one of the worst examples of overcategorisation. We could easily fit these 72 assassinated American politicians into 1 category. All others can go. Nederlandse Leeuw ( talk) 19:06, 31 May 2023 (UTC) reply
This doesn't address the argument about "widely-accepted historical epochs". In addition, I see those categories mentioned in the CfD still standing after more than 10 years. Can you expand on impeding navigation? Regards, Thinker78 (talk) 23:57, 31 May 2023 (UTC) reply
@ Nederlandse Leeuw I don't think that paragraph of the 201 CfD is relevant here because the specific problem of categorizing twice in the same category the subject simply does not happen with assassinated politicians, because the event didn't happen in two centuries at the same time. And it really begs the question why the editor would think people are not interested in finding about events only in certain century. It is normal in reliable sources to talk about events by century and summarize things that happened in a century. [4] Thinker78 (talk) 21:21, 9 June 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Interesting that the whole tree contains so few articles and that nearly all articles are already in the top category of this tree. Under those circumstances, merging all of it is a pretty obvious outcome. Marcocapelle ( talk) 19:10, 31 May 2023 (UTC) reply
    What tree are you talking about? I'm not understanding why other topics are being discussed about your proposal, which is confusing things and making it unnecessarily more complex and long. Populating categories takes time and collaboration. The subcategories in the Category:Assassinated politicians by continent for example was mostly empty and Fayenatic london helped populate it. Regards, Thinker78 (talk) 00:09, 1 June 2023 (UTC) reply
    Most of the category tree has at least has 5 pages, complying with the reported threshold of small cats consensus. Regards, Thinker78 (talk) 21:23, 9 June 2023 (UTC) reply
@ Nederlandse Leeuw, is your rationale that unless a category has 200 entries it should not be diffused? Regards, Thinker78 (talk) 22:05, 9 June 2023 (UTC) reply
No. Nederlandse Leeuw ( talk) 22:17, 9 June 2023 (UTC) reply
@ Thinker78: 1) Jeez, look at all that participation back then; with categories not displaying on the mobile view CFD is truly doomed. 2) I'm open minded about "local politicians" categories in general but "county and local" doesn't make sense because counties are a subset of local 3) I'm not arguing WP:SMALLCAT but WP:NARROWCAT. In other words, I'm not saying these categories have too few articles, I'm saying it makes more sense to categorize them both as assassinated American politicians and by their specific office, but that this combination cat doesn't aid navigation. 4) Procedurally, be careful to avoid WP:BLUDGEON as this is the third time in this discussion you've posted this reply. - RevelationDirect ( talk) 23:41, 11 June 2023 (UTC) reply
@ RevelationDirect I am no fan of curtailing discussion in such a way because it prevents an organic discussion and allows the majority to impose their opinion more easily. Having said that, I merely replied to different editors because oftentimes editors only monitor replies to their own comments and not the entire discussion. My objective was not to bludgeon in my point of view, merely to inform individual editors. But you bring a relevant point and I will abstain from posting anymore in this particular thread unless someone specifically asks me for something. Sincerely, Thinker78 (talk) 02:56, 12 June 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:2nd millennium assassinated American politicians

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 16:43, 19 June 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary for a country established in 1776, and incorrectly populated anyway. – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 21:12, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply
Notice that the History of the United States starts in prehistory. How is it incorrectly populated? Sincerely, Thinker78 (talk) 21:53, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply
It's in the Category:Assassinated politicians by nationality tree. There was no "American nationality" before 1776. Nederlandse Leeuw ( talk) 22:38, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply
In a sense you are right but in another sense it belongs to American history and therefore it is an American page and American is under the nationality tree. Besides, there is only one politician assassinated before 1776 in the category. Sincerely, Thinker78 (talk) 23:17, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply
Category:21st century assassinated American politicians belongs in the 3rd millennium. – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 22:58, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply
I fixed it, thanks. Sincerely, Thinker78 (talk) 23:29, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply
I also had that thought before creating the category but I did it in order to include America in a tree with other countries that have ancient histories that go back a few millennia. Sincerely, Thinker78 (talk) 23:20, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 21:31, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom. Nederlandse Leeuw ( talk) 22:38, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Doesn't make sense for the United States. - RevelationDirect ( talk) 02:21, 3 June 2023 (UTC) reply
    Yes, I entertained that thought as well before creating it. But then my intention was joining this category with similar ones of other geographic locations that have history for millennia. Regards, Thinker78 (talk) 00:17, 4 June 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:Before Common Era assassinated politicians

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 June 19#Category:Before Common Era assassinated politicians

Category:Ukrainian Association of Football officials

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The result of the discussion was: merge and rename. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 04:25, 11 June 2023 (UTC) reply

First:

Then:

Nominator's rationale: Same entity and article and categories that should have been speedy renamed. Football Federation of Ukraine are the older categories; Ukrainian Association of Football is the name of the article and category. Kaffet i halsen ( talk) 21:03, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:Assassinated heads of state by continent

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 June 19#Category:Assassinated heads of state by continent

Category:Assassinated heads of state by time

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. (non-admin closure) ( t · c) buidhe 02:26, 7 June 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: There is only a single article in this tree, who is already in Category:Assassinated heads of state. All other branches of the category tree are empty and will therefore be speedy deleted per C1. – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 20:59, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply
There are currently 98 pages of assassinated heads of state. If a reader wants to find out about assassinations in a specific decade, say for example is curious about who else got assassinated besides Kennedy during the 1960s then a category for 1960s assassinated heads of state would help. AND I PROTEST THE MASS DELETION PROPOSAL. Not all of them should be discussed in the same thread, this is not helpful. Thinker78 (talk) 22:37, 1 June 2023 (UTC) reply
Per WP:DEL-CONTENT If editing can improve the page, this should be done rather than deleting the page. Disputes over page content are usually not dealt with by deleting the page, except in severe cases. The content issues should be discussed at the relevant talk page, and other methods of dispute resolution should be used first, such as listing on Wikipedia:Requests for comments for further input. My plan is to populate these categories as they have actually many instances of assassinated heads of state in each. Sincerely, Thinker78 (talk) 00:05, 2 June 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Delete, there isn't an urgent reason to diffuse and creator of the categories is apparently not populating them. Marcocapelle ( talk) 21:41, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply
This is getting frustrated. Why don't you try helping populate them instead of just deleting everything? Just replying to this unreasonable threads have taken me some time. I would find it reasonable if you propose a single category for deletion to give me and other editors time to populate it. @ Marcocapelle Sincerely, Thinker78 (talk) 00:20, 1 June 2023 (UTC) reply
  • The categories have been left empty for no less than 11 days. As you apparently did not have time to populate the categories you created, you should have waited creating them until you'd have time to populate them. (This is of course apart from the fact that the categories are not useful at all.) Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:18, 1 June 2023 (UTC) reply
    I did not populate them because it was a lot of work and I started them because Wikipedia is a collaborative project, not purely individualistic. My intention was to make them available for editor to start populate them and help readers. It would take time for editors to start populating them and yes, I was planning on helping to populate them through time, not all at once. Creating one category took me to creating a parent branch and creating a parent branch led me to create others. Sincerely, Thinker78 (talk) 22:31, 1 June 2023 (UTC) reply
User:Thinker78, never create a category before you plan on using it. Empty categories are deleted. Also, categories exist in a hierarchy so inventing your own way to do things that doesn't reflect the way that categories have been used over the entire project is generally not successful. Novelty is not appreciated. Decisions about how to use categories and the proper names and scope for them have been worked out over decades of discussions at CFD. The regular participants at CFD have an almost encyclopedic knowledge of the category structure on Wikipedi so I'd listen to their advice. Liz Read! Talk! 02:52, 2 June 2023 (UTC) reply
I did not create empty categories, I gave them all at least one page, but in a couple of times someone else removed the page later on. If you don't appreciate novelty, well that is your opinion, not Wikipedia guidance, or is it? I am hard pressed to think that novelty is not appreciated when actually every new edit that every single editor in the project makes is a novelty in one way or another.
In fact the whole Wikipedia project has been a ridiculed novelty in many places, since established academicians thought absurd that an encyclopedia written by random anonymous people could be taken seriously. Therefore, I take your words regarding novelty with a grain of salt. Sincerely, Thinker78 (talk) 03:02, 2 June 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Creating a category and just putting one article in it is disruptive and misleading towards fellow Wikipedia readers and users: if they visit the category page they will think that there is only one article in Wikipedia that fits the criteria as described in the category title. Please do not do this again, just populate the category right away or do not create the category page at all. Marcocapelle ( talk) 07:11, 2 June 2023 (UTC) reply
    Please cite relevant guidance and stop being aggressive. I already mentioned I am new to categorization and you only are seeing negative stuff disregarding the fact I mentioned to you that I have spent many hours categorizing. Instead of accusations, try holding a friendly discussion. Sincerely, Thinker78 (talk) 20:53, 2 June 2023 (UTC) reply
    • I am trying to explain the negative effect of your behaviour. Hopefully you understand what I was saying. Marcocapelle ( talk) 21:18, 2 June 2023 (UTC) reply
      I am also trying to explain the negative effect of your behavior. Since I'm practically new to categorizing, check WP:NOBITING and let's work from there. Sincerely, Thinker78 (talk) 23:23, 2 June 2023 (UTC) reply
@ Thinker78: Waiting until there are 5+ articles is sound advice. The WP:SMALLCAT editing guideline I actually find really frustrating because it doesn't give a clear number to help new-ish editors. Nonetheless, 5 articles has been a common long-term interpretation. - RevelationDirect ( talk) 03:32, 3 June 2023 (UTC) reply
@ RevelationDirect, perhaps we should change the guideline to clarify the minimum articles a category should have, given the current consensus. There are no end of categories that fail SMALLCAT, maybe it would help. —  Qwerfjkl talk 10:29, 3 June 2023 (UTC) reply
I will copy my comment from Wikipedia talk:Categories for discussion#Mass deletion proposals overwhelming:
there is no problem with time, you are free to ask for a week or two to populate the categories. That being said, given you created the categories, the onus is on you to populate them, not to leave it to other editors. You should try to add at least 5-10 articles to each category.—  Qwerfjkl talk 10:27, 3 June 2023 (UTC) reply
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Drink stub templates

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 04:30, 11 June 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT, only 1 template in each. – Fayenatic London 19:12, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:UNESCO nomenclature

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 04:45, 11 June 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: only contains 1 page after former pages 4-digit UNESCO Nomenclature & 6-digit UNESCO nomenclature were redirected to the eponymous article by Drmies in August 2022. Some interwiki categories [1] include other UNESCO listings e.g. Atlas of the World's Languages in Danger, but these are different from the " UNESCO nomenclature" which is for classifying academic research. – Fayenatic London 18:59, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:WikiProject Coca-Cola

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Beverages Task Force. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 04:31, 11 June 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: No such WikiProject or task force. Gonnym ( talk) 18:54, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:WikiProject Soft Drinks

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Beverages Task Force. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 04:31, 11 June 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: No such project WP:WikiProject Soft Drinks. It redirects to Wikipedia:WikiProject Food and drink/Beverages Task Force. Gonnym ( talk) 18:51, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:WikiCheese

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Cheeses task force. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 04:31, 11 June 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: One page for an event that happened in 2014. Don't see any future pages being added here. Gonnym ( talk) 18:44, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:Australian football clubs

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The result of the discussion was: disambiguate. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 16:58, 19 June 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Disambiguate-like category to link two categories that already are in Category:Sporting clubs in Australia, and one article that would fit better in a Category:Soccer teams in Australia category under Category:Association football teams by country. An alternative could be to rename to that and remove the Australian rules football category. Kaffet i halsen ( talk) 18:16, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:Drafts about animations

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 04:32, 11 June 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: All drafts that used to have this category are now in Category:Drafts about animation. 99.209.40.250 ( talk) 17:43, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:Aesthetics

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The result of the discussion was: withdrawn ( non-admin closure). While I was involved, it seems better to close this discussion asap because it is pointless that editors keep commenting on a withdrawn proposal. If I did wrong, feel free to revert, then I will just let it go. Marcocapelle ( talk) 21:13, 3 June 2023 (UTC) reply

:* Propose renaming Category:Aesthetics to Category:Philosophical aesthetics

Nominator's rationale: In the past decade (or two) the term "aesthetics" has picked up a secondary colloquial meaning in popular culture as a synonym for "style" - renaming this category to a more disambiguating term that is also used by the IEP will hopefully prevent some of this confusion - car chasm ( talk) 17:05, 30 May 2023 (UTC) Withdrawing as there's significant opposition to the move. reply
  • Question, shouldn't Aesthetics be renamed, to begin with? Marcocapelle ( talk) 17:27, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply
    That's a good point, I've moved the page and put a link to this discussion in the edit summary. I don't necessarily expect any pushback but there may be an objection I haven't thought of. - car chasm ( talk) 17:42, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Conditional support unless objections are raised to the article rename. Marcocapelle ( talk) 18:21, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply
  • There appears to be abundant opposition to the article move. Marcocapelle ( talk) 04:53, 31 May 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:All-Ukrainian Union "Fatherland" politicians

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Batkivshchyna politicians. (non-admin closure) ( t · c) buidhe 06:25, 7 June 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:C2D main article Batkivshchyna. Nederlandse Leeuw ( talk) 16:11, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:2012 Summer Paralympics wheelchair basketball templates

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 16:31, 17 June 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT Frietjes ( talk) 15:35, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:Sports venues in Alexandria, Louisiana

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 04:35, 11 June 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT. – Aidan721 ( talk) 14:58, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:Statistics of the COVID-19 pandemic in Australia

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The result of the discussion was: already deleted. Already deleted under G5, but there is also consensus for deletion here. (non-admin closure) ( t · c) buidhe 06:24, 7 June 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT of unclear necessity. No other country on earth has its own dedicated "Statistics of the COVID-19 pandemic in [Country]" subcategory, Category:Statistics of the COVID-19 pandemic is nowhere near large enough to need that anyway, and two articles is nowhere near enough for Australia to warrant special treatment.
No upmerging needed, as both of the articles here were left in Category:Statistics of the COVID-19 pandemic and/or Category:COVID-19 pandemic in Australia alongside this, meaning they're both already appropriately categorized in all of the plausible merge targets. Bearcat ( talk) 14:49, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Yes it should. Small categories are a hindrance in easily finding related articles, it results in extra scrolling through the category tree. Marcocapelle ( talk) 04:57, 31 May 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Delete for Now with no objection to recreating if it ever reaches 5+ articles (not redirects). - RevelationDirect ( talk) 03:17, 3 June 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:Medal of Economic Merit ( CORECON-SE ) laureates

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. (non-admin closure) ( t · c) buidhe 02:31, 7 June 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Single-entry WP:SMALLCAT for an award that doesn't have its own article at all to scan for whether there are any other people who could be added to it. This was further created as that perennially irritating error where the category page is misused as a substitute for the article that the topic doesn't have, by packing an article-like introduction and primary source referencing directly into the category page itself.
And even if somebody with more knowledge of this topic than I've got can actually find enough other potential entries to salvage it, it would still need to be renamed for conformity with Wikipedia's category naming conventions anyway. Bearcat ( talk) 14:42, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:Film directors from Alappuzha

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Category:St. Louis City SC draft picks

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 04:36, 11 June 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Single-entry WP:SMALLCAT for just one person, who's also already in Category:St. Louis City SC players alongside this.
There's been an explosion of "[Specific team] draft picks" categories of late, but there's a need for some discussion as to whether this is really warranted or not. It doesn't seem like there's a genuinely defining distinction between getting onto a team as a "draft pick" and getting onto the same team by some other process -- so if a person is already in a "[Team] players" category, then it seems like overcategorization to also categorize them as "[Same team] draft picks" alongside that, and if a person was a team's "draft pick" but then ended up not playing for the team at all for some reason and thus isn't in "[Team] players", then it seems unlikely that having been drafted for a team they never actually played for would be defining at all.
So for both of those reasons, it's not entirely clear that categorizing players for their status as a specific team's draft picks would be necessary at all, and even if it's justifiable in some instances it still wouldn't aid navigation to create an exhaustive smorgasbord of small categories for just one or two people anyway. Bearcat ( talk) 14:15, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:Paul Kyser

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. (non-admin closure) ( t · c) buidhe 06:22, 7 June 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Eponymous category for a musician without the volume of spinoff content needed to justify an eponymous category. As always, every musician who exists does not automatically get one of these as a matter of course -- they're only warranted for musicians who have a lot of spinoff content that needs categorization for its relationship to that person but falls outside the standard songs/albums category schemes that already exist, such as films or books about the person. But all that's here is the standard "BLP + Songs written by Paul Kyser", which is not sufficient basis for an eponymous category to bunch them together. Bearcat ( talk) 14:00, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom, the subcategory suffices. Marcocapelle ( talk) 17:38, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom. Nederlandse Leeuw ( talk) 20:01, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Keep - QUOTE: "category for a musician without the volume of spinoff content needed to justify an eponymous category. As always, every musician who exists does not automatically get one of these as a matter of course ". I agree with the last part that " every musician who exists does not automatically get one of these as a matter of course", but that's really not the case here, is it! Yes, Paul Kyser is a former musician. He sang in a Doo Wop group back in the late 50s or early 60s. He also plays piano etc.. But what has been left out here is that Kyser is ... a promoter ... record label owner ... music executive ... singer ... songwriter ... record producer and arranger ... and more! It won't put his body of work here but you can see it at Discogs, Paul L. Kyser at Discogs
    ~ ~ ~ and .. .. .. .. ~ ~ ~
    The reason why I created the category was because there are other categories that will go in. In addition to Category:Songs by songwriter ... there will be Category:Song recordings by producer ... Category:Albums by producer ... Category:Albums by arranger, etc. . Also at least one of his record labels is notable and would be in the category list. Also, most likely one of his production companies. Karl Twist ( talk) 06:48, 1 June 2023 (UTC) reply
We don't preemptively create categories in anticipation of future content for them; we wait until that other content does exist, and then create the category to group it together afterward. Bearcat ( talk) 15:36, 1 June 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Delete until there is more content. For now, I have added "See also" links between the contents. – Fayenatic London 10:43, 1 June 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom. The two subcategories interlink with one another, although that doesn't matter much since the content of each is identical. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars Talk to me 21:23, 1 June 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Delete for Now with no objection to recreating if 5+ direct articles ever appear. - RevelationDirect ( talk) 03:13, 3 June 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:Education in Samurou

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Liz Read! Talk! 22:11, 6 June 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Three single-entry WP:SMALLCATs for "Education in [Small town in India]", all newly created solely to overcategorize the same public primary school with no evidence of any other potential entries (and neither Haoreibi nor Wangoi even named in the school's article at all). Bearcat ( talk) 13:42, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:Ghana Communication Technology University alumni

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. (non-admin closure) ( t · c) buidhe 06:21, 7 June 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Single-entry WP:SMALLCAT for just one person. As always, every university that exists does not automatically get an "alumni" category the moment it has one notable alumnus -- there have to be at least five people with articles to file in it before an article becomes justified. And while checking the school's "what links here" offered a couple of other people who could have been filed here, it still wouldn't get to five. Bearcat ( talk) 13:34, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:Tamil Nadu MPs 2009–2014

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. (non-admin closure) ( t · c) buidhe 06:20, 7 June 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Single-entry WP:SMALLCAT. Wikipedia does not have any scheme of subdividing "Indian MPs YYYY-YYYY" categories by individual state; Category:India MPs 2009–2014 (which the person here is already in) has no other subcategories for any other state, and there are no other "Tamil Nadu MPs YYYY-YYYY" categories for any other Lok Sabha session. Bearcat ( talk) 13:30, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:List of Indian controversial films

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. (non-admin closure) ( t · c) buidhe 06:18, 7 June 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Wikipedia does not have any scheme of categorizing films for their "controversial" status. And even if it did, the category name would be inappropriate, as categories for things are named "X", not "List of X", while "Lists of" (not "List of") categories are not for making lists, but for categorizing articles which are lists. Bearcat ( talk) 13:24, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:21st-century heads of state of Greece

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:21st-century Greek politicians. (non-admin closure) ( t · c) buidhe 06:17, 7 June 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Redundant layer. Nederlandse Leeuw ( talk) 10:59, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply
@ Nederlandse Leeuw Did you see it is part of a series with 19th-century heads of state of Greece‎ (2 C, 11 P), 20th-century heads of state of Greece‎ (3 C)? Regards,
‎ Thinker78 (talk) 00:38, 4 June 2023 (UTC) reply
I did. Different situation. Nederlandse Leeuw ( talk) 05:56, 4 June 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:21st-century heads of state of France

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:21st-century presidents of France. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 04:37, 11 June 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Redundant layer. Nederlandse Leeuw ( talk) 10:58, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply

Keep No rationale given. Dimadick ( talk) 14:34, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply

  • Downmerge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. This just hinders navigation. Marcocapelle ( talk) 17:49, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Admin note: In practice, this should be implemented by simply deleting, because telling the bot to downmerge would place the target category into itself. – Fayenatic London 09:11, 31 May 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Downmerge Since, so far, there are only presidents. - RevelationDirect ( talk) 03:07, 3 June 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:21st-century heads of state of Germany

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:21st-century presidents of Germany. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 04:37, 11 June 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Redundant layer. Nederlandse Leeuw ( talk) 10:56, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply

Keep No rationale given. Dimadick ( talk) 14:34, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply

  • Downmerge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. This just hinders navigation. Marcocapelle ( talk) 17:49, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Admin note: In practice, this should be implemented by simply deleting, because telling the bot to downmerge would place the target category into itself. – Fayenatic London 07:56, 31 May 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Downmerge This does not aid navigation. - RevelationDirect ( talk) 03:07, 3 June 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:20th-century German emperors

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 04:37, 11 June 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale (20th): WP:SMALLCAT there was only 1, there never will be more than 1. Nederlandse Leeuw ( talk) 10:45, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale (19th): WP:SMALLCAT there were only 3, there never will be more than 3. There were only ever 3 German emperors ever. It doesn't make it a particularly full category to have 3 items in 1 category. I understand that the navigational timeline at the top is fun, and that categorising categories by centuries is fun, but it is pretty useless in the case of 3 German emperors. We don't need this. Nederlandse Leeuw ( talk) 10:51, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply
"and that categorising categories by centuries is fun" Keep. No category is fun. They are useful in locating articles and specifying chronology. Century-based categories are useful for navigation, while categories which are not based on a specific period such as Category:German emperors are practically useless. Dimadick ( talk) 14:27, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:Cypriot monarchs

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Monarchs of Cyprus. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 04:38, 11 June 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:CATSPECIFIC to make clear "Cypriot" does not refer to the nationality of any monarch (originally) from Cyprus who may have reigned over some other country, but that "Cyprus" was the country reigned over by the monarchs in question (the Suggestion B principle). Nederlandse Leeuw ( talk) 10:17, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:Heads of state of Austria

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Category:Anyone (band) members

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Liz Read! Talk! 22:14, 6 June 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: This category had four members. Two, I could find no citations saying they were ever in the band. The other two (Davison and Hawkins) were in Sylvia, a predecessor band, rather than in Anyone, and their membership is a pretty obscure part of their histories and fails WP:CATDEF. I have thus removed the category from all 4 articles. We now have an empty category, which should be deleted. The Anyone article is a mess, with concerns over paid editing. Bondegezou ( talk) 09:55, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Delete, as creator. When I made the category, I had trouble figuring out this band's membership, and it's not surprising why. Let's remove it.-- Mike Selinker ( talk) 23:38, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Comment Category has been emptied already. Liz Read! Talk! 21:52, 5 June 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:Four sons of Horus

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Horus and Category:Children by deity. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 04:40, 11 June 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT, there are no standalone articles on each of them - all are mentioned and redirected to Four sons of Horus. That article is already inside Category:Groups of Egyptian deities. Brandmeister talk 09:04, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:Education in Jämtland

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The result of the discussion was: rename/merge/delete. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 04:41, 11 June 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Nine categories for the category Category:Mid Sweden University and Swedish Defence University. Category:Education in Sweden by county categories would have the possibility to grow as there are more than 100 articles on different schools and universities. An alternative is to delete all as both are in Category:Universities and colleges in Sweden. Jämtland County instead of Jämtland as all articles are about education during Counties of Sweden era and not Provinces of Sweden era.
The intention is the result should be: Category:Mid Sweden University to Category:Education in Jämtland County, Category:Education in Västernorrland County, and Category:Sundsvall (already in the two other city categories); Swedish Defence University to Category:Education in Jämtland County and Category:Östersund. Kaffet i halsen ( talk) 08:44, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Merge/delete per nom. Too many unnecessary layers. – Aidan721 ( talk) 17:21, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:Aces

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Aces (military). (non-admin closure) ( t · c) buidhe 01:47, 7 June 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: For clarity, to specify what sort of Aces it refers to. Anomalous+0 ( talk) 08:17, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:Thai Industrial Standards

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 June 11#Category:Thai Industrial Standards

Category:ISIRI standards

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 June 11#Category:ISIRI standards

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