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Support Oculi. The -ologists would in theory be people who studied the subject without practising it. I doubt that happens much in practice.
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The result of the discussion was:do not merge.
MER-C 09:36, 30 June 2019 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: Very small category. clearly two names for the same thing. Expatriates in Ireland has 51 subcategories. They are not divided according to time - some were in Ireland when it was governed by Britain and some after 1922. Main category is
Category:Irish people, not Republic of Ireland people.
Rathfelder (
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Keep -- We have long split Irish categories into NI and RoI, except in relation to all-Ireland institutions.
Peterkingiron (
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Support We consistently use Ireland/Irish to specifically refer to the country.
John Pack Lambert (
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Not sure whether Republic of Ireland is ugly, but I am assuming that
WP:IRE-CATS has been established after long discussions and we'd better stick to it.
Marcocapelle (
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Are you sure it applies here? The more generic
WP:IRE-IRL guideline explicitely states that "Ireland" should be used for the state where the state forms a major component of the topic (e.g. on articles relating to states, politics or governance), which was the major rationale for the
Foreign relations of Ireland CfD and is also the case here for "expatriates". Also, you do not address the fact that a keep result would not establish the stable situation you seem to imply as most expatriates in Ireland categories are currently using "Ireland" for the country, and have for some time until April 2019.
Place Clichy (
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WP:IRE-CATS has specifically been established for categorization so that overrules
WP:IRE-IRL in this case. With respect to the 2nd point, an additional nomination is needed indeed.
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Category:Arrow episode redirects to lists
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Comment The category has already been emptied. LizRead!Talk! 02:29, 14 April 2019 (UTC)reply
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Category:Expatriates in the Kingdom of Great Britain
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Nominator's rationale: This contains one subcategory: American expatriates in the Kingdom of Great Britain, which had one article, about an American who was actually living in Scotland. I dont think a proliferation of subcategories about the various legal forms of what is now the UK is very helpful. The existence of the geographical subcategories of the UK enable us to avoid this.
Rathfelder (
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Query Will the nominator be alerting the Ancient Rome project that it's work is useless given the current Republic of Italy?
Laurel Lodged (
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Ancient Rome was, apart from any other consideration, geographically different from the present Republic of Italy. An approach that is sensible in one context may not work in another.
Rathfelder (
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Delete - it's more important for categories to be useful than to be precisely accurate, we don't have separate categories for the different Republics of France. Politically there was rather less difference between GB & UK than between the
Roman Republic and the
Roman Empire if you're going to go down that route, aside from the differences in territorial extent. Also, this category would end in 1801, when the whole concept of "expats" was rather different to what it is now.
Le Deluge (
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Delete also the empty sub-cat, whose content was presumably moved to Scotland. A rather useless category.
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Category:NCAA Men's Golf All-America
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Nominator's rationale: I know nothing about golf in the US, but this 1-member category feels like
WP:OCAWARDLe Deluge (
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Delete for Now I assumed the one article would be about the award, not just a single person who recieved it. Maybe a main article could help establish defining-ness, I'm not sure. But right now this category is not aiding navigation in any sense.
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Category:Ovation Awards by year
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Nominator's rationale: Pointless having a separate by year category when the parent is otherwise empty
Le Deluge (
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Support -- The content is articles on the annual awards so that OCAWARDS does not apply.
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Suwałki
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Nominator's rationale: merge per
WP:SMALLCAT, we currently have one building and one subcategory in sports, while the parent
Category:Suwałki has also very little content.
Suwalki is a city in Poland (69.000 people).
Marcocapelle (
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Merge for Now While there are obviously other buildings and sport activities, we are unlikely to get to 5 notable ones. (No objection to recreating if we do though.)
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Utena
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Nominator's rationale: merge per
WP:SMALLCAT, we currently have one building and one company, while the parent
Category:Utena has also very little content.
Utena is a city in Lithuania (27.000 people).
Marcocapelle (
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Merge for Now While there are obviously other buildings and companies, we are unlikely to get to 5 notable ones. (No objection to recreating if we do though.)
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Vyškov
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Nominator's rationale: merge per
WP:SMALLCAT, we currently have one article (a zoo) in both categories, while the parent
Category:Vyškov has also very little content.
Vyškov is a town in the Czech Republic (22.000 people).
Marcocapelle (
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Merge for Now While there are obviously other buildings and attractions, we are unlikely to get to 5 notable ones. (No objection to recreating if we do though.)
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Zájezd
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Nominator's rationale: merge per
WP:SMALLCAT, we currently have one article (a zoo) in the entire tree.
Zájezd is a village in the Czech Republic.
Marcocapelle (
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Ahhh Bless! Have you seen the cute photos? So adoreable! Delete.
Laurel Lodged (
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Merge per nom. Prime example of WP:SMALLCAT.--
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Centuries in Algeria
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Nominator's rationale: merge, we usually do not have century categories for countries that did not exist yet. In the Middle Ages Algeria often belonged to Islamic states centered in current Morocco or Tunisia. The
Regency of Algiers, established in 1515, can be regarded as the earliest form of Algeria as a separate country.
Marcocapelle (
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Support With notable Polish exceptions, the nom is correct to state that "we usually do not have century categories for countries that did not exist yet".
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Category:Churches in St. Gallen (city)
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Nominator's rationale:upmerge, currently contains one subcategory. There may well be some possibility of expansion, but it is unknown if we would be able to decently fill up a whole category.
Marcocapelle (
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Support per nom. Incidentally, there seems to be some inconsistency in the naming conventions of the
Category:Cantons of Switzerland: some use "Canton of Foo", others just state "Foo". Wouldn't a consistent disambiguator be preferable (e.g. "Foo (canton)") ? A discussion for another day perhaps.
Laurel Lodged (
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Category:Living Legends of the American Academy of Nursing
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The
Living Legends of the American Academy of Nursing is an award given by the
American Academy of Nursing and doesn't have any corresponding physical museum. Some of the articles do mention the award in the lede but that appears to be the work of a single editor who also created this category. Clicking through the other articles though, this award doesn't seem defining. The contents of the category are already listified
here in the main article. -
RevelationDirect (
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DElete as OCAWARD: Listify if necessary, as usual for such categories.
Peterkingiron (
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Category:Cuban Baseball Hall of Fame inductees
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The result of the discussion was:delete.
MER-C 17:02, 23 May 2019 (UTC)reply
A. Original Pre-Revolution: 1939-1961 in Havana, inducted a mix of
All Cubans, minor, major, Negro league players
B. Exile in United States: 1962-1986, 1997-1998 in Miami, focused on Major League players.
C. Official Revival: 2014 in Havana, focused on
Cuba national baseball team players. Having trouble finding later years.
The Exile and Revival ones both recognize inductees by the Original, but they definitely don't recognize each other. While all the inducted players have great athletic skills, perceived political allegience and emigration decisions also appear to be factors for admission. This Wikipedia category covers the Original and the Official Revival (but not the Exile one) which effectivley is taking a political position. One possible solution would be to split this into three categories but none of the three awards seem particularly defining in the articles and these competing claims by rival organizations are better handled in the article space. The contents of the current category are already listified
here in the main article. -
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