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Nominator's rationale: New category last month. Contains only a userbox template that is not transcluded anywhere; the creator's page has a link to the template, but that's all. –
FayenaticLondon 20:03, 2 July 2018 (UTC)reply
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Category:SpaceX beyond-Earth-orbit rockets
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Nominator's rationale: This category makes no sense, because all SpaceX rockets can launch payloads beyond Earth orbit (and some have). Made it empty pending deletion. —
JFGtalk 15:34, 2 July 2018 (UTC)reply
I'm unsure on this. Clearly the currently-under-development
BFR (rocket) is intended for BEO, as was made clear in the late-Sept 2017 sources where that rocket was announced. And the old design concept
ITS launch vehicle (late 2016) was intended the same. Since September 2017, the
Falcon Heavy had a maiden flight (Feb 2018), and launched a BEO payload on a heliocentric orbit. So those three would all belong in this category.
But the (retired)
Falcon 1 rocket, and the 50+ flights to date of the still flying
Falcon 9 have, I believe, all been
geocentric orbit flights, and I'm not sure I seen a source for plans to launch a Falcon 9 to BEO. So the category still makes sense to me, for now. Is there some other logic as to why the cat could be broken up differently?
N2e (
talk) 18:10, 2 July 2018 (UTC)reply
BFR is designed to fulfill all kinds of missions: ISS transport, LEO constellations, GTO transfer, interplanetary, and even suborbital Earth-to-Earth as competition to long-range aviation. The BEO-only category is pointless. —
JFGtalk 09:47, 4 July 2018 (UTC)reply
With three other editors favoring delete, with plausible rationales, I'll happily remove my uncertainty expressed here and support the deletion of the category for BEO launch vehicles. Cheers.
N2e (
talk) 04:04, 9 July 2018 (UTC)reply
Delete, unneeded over-categorisation. At this moment, there are four distinct SpaceX rocket designs (F1, F9, F9H, and BFR), all currently categorised under
Category:Falcon (rocket family). If more designs or families are produced (which seems unlikely given current SpaceX plans) then maybe such a category would be useful. Aside from this, why is the rocket's launch regime even a factor in how we categorise it? This isn't done for any other rocket that I'm aware of. Feels like categorisation for the sake of categorisation. —
Huntster (
t@c) 22:04, 2 July 2018 (UTC)reply
That would make sense for consistency. I'd call it simply
Category:SpaceX launch vehicles, because "space" is already in the company name. —
JFGtalk 09:50, 4 July 2018 (UTC)reply
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Category:2034 FIFA World Cup
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Nominator's rationale: Only one item for now so no need at this time
Hhkohh (
talk) 11:38, 2 July 2018 (UTC)reply
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Hhkohh (
talk) 11:41, 2 July 2018 (UTC)reply
Delete. No point in having this category until several more articles can be created and that will be after it is decided where the tournament will be staged.
Izzat Kutebar (
talk) 12:36, 2 July 2018 (UTC)reply
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Category:Plants alluded to by William Shakespeare
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Nominator's rationale: Not essential—defining—characteristics, just tagging.
Batternut (
talk) 07:56, 2 July 2018 (UTC)reply
Delete. Better dealt with by means of a list.
Izzat Kutebar (
talk) 12:36, 2 July 2018 (UTC)reply
Listify -- I am sure there must be many more.
Peterkingiron (
talk) 17:08, 5 July 2018 (UTC)reply
Deletealluded to seems a weak criterion, surely not defining for anything. Not sure on whether plants in Shakespeare is notable, but could be convinced - what coverage has that concept had in reliable sources or are we just being a concordance?
Carlossuarez46 (
talk) 00:41, 6 July 2018 (UTC)reply
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Category:Anatolian peoples
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Nominator's rationale: Superfluous. Effectively a duplicate of
Category:Ancient peoples of Anatolia in that the few articles it previously held were all about ancient peoples of Anatolia. These have been re-categorised accordingly. All that remains is the sub-categorical use of
Category:Anatolian languages but that is irrelevant to a category which is nominally about peoples, especially as it is already categorised elsewhere in compliance with other linguistics categories. Thank you.
Izzat Kutebar (
talk) 06:31, 2 July 2018 (UTC)reply
Oppose. Though the categories have similar names, they are certainly not duplicates.
What makes no sense is a linguistics category with a title that is about peoples. It is completely misleading. You should request that the category is renamed
Category:Anatolian languages. Articles about the peoples belong in the peoples category.
Izzat Kutebar (
talk) 10:39, 2 July 2018 (UTC)reply
Given the stated purpose of the article rename was to enable its transfer to the ancient peoples category as main article, that has been done. The only item left in the Anatolian peoples category is
Category:Anatolian languages which is irrelevant and does not belong there.
Izzat Kutebar (
talk) 12:16, 2 July 2018 (UTC)reply
Oppose The
Anatolian languages are a subgroup or branch of the Indo-European languages spoken and written in Anatolia (Asia Minor) in the Bronze and Iron Ages. They do not just refer to any language spoken in Anatolia ever. Hattic, Hurrian, Phrygian, Galatian, Armenian, Greek, Kurdish and Turkish were or are spoken in Anatolia, but they are not Anatolian languages, they are (historical or contemporary) languages of Anatolia. This distinction is crucial. Anatolian peoples are an ethnolinguistic group: The peoples who spoke Indo-European Anatolian languages.
Consider this example: Estonian is spoken in the Baltic, but it does not belong to the
Baltic languages; it is a Finno-Ugric language, while the Baltic languages are Indo-European. For this reason, Estonians are not listed in
Category:Baltic peoples. --
Florian Blaschke (
talk) 17:21, 2 July 2018 (UTC)reply
Oppose Anatolian peoples is about the ethnolinguistic group.
Dimadick (
talk) 23:47, 2 July 2018 (UTC)reply
Oppose. This is an ethnolinguistics and human-geographical distinction. —
SMcCandlish☏¢ 😼 04:44, 3 July 2018 (UTC)reply
Oppose - Such a renaming is inconsistent with the related categories mentioned above. Among the subcategories of
Category:Anatolian peoples we find
Category:Anatolian mythology, which is not about linguistics. A title "Category:Anatolian-speaking peoples" would therefore be too narrow in scope.
Krakkos (
talk) 10:15, 7 July 2018 (UTC)reply
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Category:Glass makers and brands
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The result of the discussion was:Merge.
Timrollpickering 07:55, 9 July 2018 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
Marcocapelle (
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