I have just seen that the article was first split from
Martyr by its creator
Scolaire[1]. This happened without there being any template requesting a split in the article
[2] and without anyone else proposing this in the talk page
[3]. By the way, another previous content fork of the parent article was already split and merged once
[4][5].
SuperΨDro 13:59, 17 April 2024 (UTC)reply
That is what is known as a
bold edit; bold edits are encouraged on Wikipedia. I did say I was doing it on the talk page, per
your link, and nobody had any objection. After eight years, I think we can say that
WP:Silence and consensus applies. If consensus now changes, so be it.
Scolaire (
talk) 14:28, 17 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Merge I see no need to have separate articles for people martyred for religious reasons and people martyred for political reasons since the term still has the same meaning of persecution. The main
martyr article still includes a number of political and other non-religious related examples, so if there's actually a distinction to be made, the split should be done more clearly. The book titles above can still be used in the main article. The main page has 30 times the viewers as this page, so why make readers go through another link for the full concept when length is not an issue?
Reywas92Talk 16:00, 17 April 2024 (UTC)reply
I would agree with you that there should be a clearer split. Any mention of political martyrdom, including the
Revolutionary martyr section, should be moved out of the Martyr article to this one, and just have a hatnote on the Martyr article pointing to this one.
Scolaire (
talk) 15:36, 23 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, LizRead!Talk! 23:18, 24 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Comments - in sum, I don't see anything with the information, which is all factual and correct. The biggest problem is that it's sort of a
fork. A lesser issue to finding appropriate sources, but
simple internet searches would help. I will defer to others who might decide whether and where to merge this, or alternatively, to
fix it.
Bearian (
talk) 18:02, 30 April 2024 (UTC)reply