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The result was keep.
Fuzheado |
Talk 17:52, 9 January 2021 (UTC)reply
Not sure this meets
WP:PROF. There are some highly cited works when searching on scholar such as "Learning to teach in the secondary school: A companion to school experience" from 1995 with over 350 citations and several other books with between ~200 and 75 citations, all coauthored, but independent sourcing is lacking. The article appears to have been extensively edited by the subject.
Hemiauchenia (
talk) 04:14, 2 January 2021 (UTC)reply
Strong Delete: This article is literally a resume. A lack of third party references, extensive editing by the subject, and the subject in question is not notable.
VERSACESPACE 06:11, 2 January 2021 (UTC)reply
Comment: Deletion is not cleanup (see
WP:SURMOUNTABLE). However, the article in its current state is very low-quality, and cleanup in this case may require a fresh start. I'm unsure the subject counts as non-notable with that many highly cited works, though. I suspect the article can -- maybe even should -- be kept, but I'm unsure at putting in a keep vote at this point.
Vaticidalprophet (
talk) 07:06, 2 January 2021 (UTC)reply
Marginal Weak keep. Just passes
WP:Prof on GS cites (maybe a bit
WP:Too soon). The professional section is written atrociously and needs revision.
Xxanthippe (
talk) 23:44, 2 January 2021 (UTC).reply
Too soon??? She's 70, & her books go back 30 years. See before the over-drastic supposedly COI removals.
Johnbod (
talk) 03:04, 7 January 2021 (UTC)reply
While it's not exactly too soon for the subject, the volume of books doesn't automatically grant notability by itself. And the independent coverage of her books is limited -- we have 4 reliable source reviews in total. I do think that the combination of
WP:NAUTHOR and
WP:NPROF gives a solid case for keeping. Comment that
Xxanthippe is referring to earlier versions of the article, which I heartily agree were written atrociously.
Russ Woodroofe (
talk) 06:54, 7 January 2021 (UTC)reply
Keep. The article definitely needs work but 12 books with
Routledge, a major publisher, five of which appear highly to moderately cited, and will probably have been reviewed somewhere. Additionally one fairly highly cited paper with only a single coauthor.
Espresso Addict (
talk) 04:08, 4 January 2021 (UTC)reply
Note: Article has been stubbed by
XOR'easter; commentators should look at the historical version
[5] at deletion nomination, which (though direly written) makes the subject's areas of notability clearer and contains many more sources for evaluation. ETA: Leask's De Montfort profile
[6] has a lot of notability relevant material.
Espresso Addict (
talk) 03:33, 5 January 2021 (UTC)reply
Keep due to further information on subject's notability and significant article cleanup since the time of AfD.
Vaticidalprophet (
talk) 04:28, 5 January 2021 (UTC)reply
Keep: Worthy of being kept. Clearly, satisfies
WP:NAUTHOR. Not sure about
WP:NPROF but i think it does. Slightly misses out on
WP:SIGCOV but i think the sum total is enough to justify her notability.
Pesticide1110Lets wrestle! 16:13, 5 January 2021 (UTC)reply
Keep - Per above, article has been cleaned up and notability established to the point where it satisfies requirements, if only just. --
ARoseWolf (
Talk) 15:55, 6 January 2021 (UTC)reply
Keep now it's improved.
Johnbod (
talk) 03:02, 7 January 2021 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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