- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. To have the article renamed (there is still no consensus on that), a move discussion needs to be initiated. (non-admin closure) Toadette Edit! 03:10, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
Jeffrey Northrup
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The officer has never been notable. There was no coverage of him until his death. All coverage is related to his death and related trial. Biographical sources are essentially obituaries. No reporter is doing any serious investigation into his life before his last day, nor should they, since he was a private person. The trial has had lots of coverage, but we're not a news outlet. While tragic, its not historic. -- Rob ( talk) 01:24, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- If he's not notable, well, I think his death is. No? What if the article's name is changed to "Death of Jeffrey Northrup"? -
EclecticEnnui (
talk) 06:45, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- I think a name change of the article would be most fair. The relevant information could be retained while respecting the private life of officer Northrup.
142.126.191.237 (
talk) 07:16, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- OK, sounds good. Should we wait and see if other users are gonna give their opinion? - EclecticEnnui ( talk) 21:16, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- I think a name change of the article would be most fair. The relevant information could be retained while respecting the private life of officer Northrup.
142.126.191.237 (
talk) 07:16, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Police-related deletion discussions. Rob ( talk) 01:24, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Crime and Canada. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 04:07, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- DELETE. What was tragic was (a) Northrup's stupidity in getting killed, and (b) the fact that an innocent person had his life ruined for three years while the state tried to prove an unprovable case of first degree murder. This article should be deleted and a new one about this whole case created. -- 24.80.199.58 ( talk) 06:32, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Rename to Crown v Umar Zameer, assuming the case was called that. Connor Behan ( talk) 15:13, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep but rename. The story here is not the death of the officer, which is tragic, but the conduct of the Toronto Police Service (including possible collusion to commit perjury to lock away an innocent man), that has prompted an investigation. Coverage has gone far beyond the typical murder case. See [1] [2] [3]. ---- Patar knight - chat/ contributions 19:53, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep but rename: The story is about police undercover procedures, police bias, conflicts between police officer testimony and expert testimony, weakness in the prosecution evidence and prosecutor bias. Perhaps the article title should be "Murder trial of Umar Zameer"; there are several Wikipedia articles prefixed by "Murder trial of". TheTrolleyPole ( talk) 16:16, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- I'm fine if somebody wishes to close this early as keep except for the article body, subject matter, and all of the original content which is the clear consensus above. I withdraw (I don't know how to close it myself). -- Rob ( talk) 00:02, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
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