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Non-notable murder. Page was written as a POV fork taking sources completely out of context to suit an agenda
'''tAD''' (
talk) 02:03, 11 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Weak delete –
WP:RS has been met, although much of the notability revolves around speculation of the motivation. If deleted do not object to recreation should the hate crime aspect is found to be valid.--
☾Loriendrew☽☏(talk) 02:50, 11 February 2015 (UTC)reply
delete - Wikipedia is
WP:NOTNEWS - violent crimes happen all the time. even if this is what it has been presented as, a hate crime, they also happen all the time. no indication there has been or will be any lasting significance or impact. --
TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 04:40, 11 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Keep, sources indicate notability. But I want to hear more about the nominator's claim that "page was written as a POV fork taking sources completely out of context to suit an agenda". A fork from what other article? Out of context how? What's the agenda? These things may all be true, but you can't just throw them out there without explaining.
Everyking (
talk) 06:30, 12 February 2015 (UTC)reply
What is notable about it? So far there is just
WP:ROUTINE coverage of a murder. There isnt any coverage of public protests, there is no diplomatic cross boarder uproar. there is no indication there is any lasting impact. no "hijab protection law"s passing through parliament or or indication the city council is discussing a "no public hijab" law to "protect" women from bias attacks . there is no international coverage. no series of other attacks that the media is framing as a "Essex is a no go zone for muslims". While this has the potential for notability, its not moved in any of the ways that would actualize that potential. --
TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 06:46, 12 February 2015 (UTC)reply
That coverage doesn't look "routine" to me.
Everyking (
talk) 07:51, 12 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Keep First of all, the individual who nominated this article for deletion should not even be allowed to edit on topics related to Islam, since his recent article creations clearly show that he has considerable animosity towards Islam. Secondly, there are many sources which substantiate this thus making it notable.
80.42.78.15 (
talk) 09:48, 12 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Strong delete Notability of this article stems primarily from media speculation. Yes, speculation. Wishful thinking does not make an article notable. Investigation is ongoing and is so far inconclusive.
Adagio Cantabile (
talk) 09:11, 13 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Delete No encyclopediac value in this entry.--
Flexdream (
talk) 14:18, 13 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Keep - per user Everyking. No reason to delete per extensive sourcing.--
BabbaQ (
talk) 18:07, 13 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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SamSing! 07:22, 18 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Delete. Restore when there are secondary sources, but right now we just have news media reporting the news, and that's a good example of a primary source.
Nyttend (
talk) 14:35, 18 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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