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The result was keep. Star Mississippi 00:14, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
Avon Safety Wheel
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No refs on the page for many years. I've been able to find a very small number of brief references but they don't seem to have enough coverage to WP:V what is currently on the page. If substantive refs exist, I'm not seeing them JMWt ( talk) 10:09, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Transportation and United Kingdom. JMWt ( talk) 10:09, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
- Keep It's widely described and easily sourceable for anyone who still has back issues of Motor etc. It's also significant in that this fairly obscure technology did make it onto some mass market cars (even if only a few models). Andy Dingley ( talk) 11:39, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
Weak delete pending magazine sourcing. I wasn't able to find anything in newspapers. WP:V is quite important.Keep following the thorough source discovery below. BrigadierG ( talk) 12:51, 28 March 2024 (UTC)- Comment. Looking at Google Books, there are lots of results that are about the wheel or its manufacturer. Unfortunately none of them have preview sufficient that I can tell how in depth the coverage is. I was able to discount two results as adverts, I can't say for certain none of the following ones from the first page of results are adverts but the latter two definitely aren't:
- The Autocar 1975
- Investors Chronicle 1976 Likely to be about the manufacturer
- European Rubber Journal 1976
- Automotive Industries 1973 Possibly an advert?
- Science and Australian Technology 1971
- The Bermudan 1973
- Design 1974
- Bristol Cars Model by Model 2015 I don't think this is in-depth coverage, but the preview ends too soon to be certain.
- Long Lane With Turnings 2014. Thryduulf ( talk) 15:08, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. After spending a little more time looking I've found:
- There is a small amount of coverage on Page 34 of the March 2023 edition of Jaguar World https://issuu.com/jdcsa/docs/jdcsa_cm_march_2023_final_150_mb
- There is an advert on PDF page 17 of the October 1974 edition of Motor Sport magazine that includes quotes of coverage in The Times, The Guardian and Custom Car https://porschecarshistory.com/wp-content/old/lib/magazines/ms/1974/10.1974.PDF
- The November 6th, 1973 edition of Felix (the Newspaper of Imperial College Union) contains a short article about the wheel on page 8 https://f001.backblazeb2.com/file/felixonlinearchive/issues/pdfs/felix_345.pdf
- An advert appeared on page 20 of the 20 April 1975 edition of New Nation (a Singapore newspaper) suggesting wide distribution. https://eresources.nlb.gov.sg/newspapers/digitised/issue/newnation19750430-1
- There was coverage in Volum 60 of New Scientist (1973) ( page 264), but again this is a snippet only view so I don't know how extensive it is.
- Taken together with the many other snippets from google books that are clearly independent coverage, I'm convinced that there is enough coverage to sustain an article but that very nearly all of that coverage is offline - which shouldn't be that surprising for a product that came and went in the 1970s.
Thryduulf (
talk) 20:24, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- This is quite a wonderful and thorough source discovery. Changing my weak delete vote to a keep! BrigadierG ( talk) 01:08, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
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