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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) wumbolo ^^^ 20:43, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
Annie LeBlanc (entertainer)
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I do not believe this subject is notable enough for Wikipedia at the moment. I see the sources in reliable publications, however:
- I am unsure how reliable the publication used for the first and third source is. - The second source is about the family vlog channel she is a part of (should there be an article on the whole family instead?) - The fourth source mentions the subject briefly in passing, but also mentions the family vlog channel. - Sources 6, 7, and 8 are more about the shows themselves, which could be used if the shows were notable, but I question whether they should be used here (since they are a legitimate source, but do not really cover the subject much) - Some of the other sources are either not really sources (Billboard,iTunes Chart) while others, such as the Shorty Award sources, are from questionable publications.
In the article, some sentences seem unnecessary, a fan's words, or promotional:
"After it was speculated that LeBlanc was dating fellow social media star Hayden Summerall in 2017, the alleged couple was dubbed "Hannie" by fans, who created elaborate fan-fiction with complex storylines about their high school relationship, and photoshopped thousands of pictures that appear to show the two together."
Also, the mentions of views on the web series and songs seem promotional to me.
I think there is a case for articles on the web series she is in, or the production company behind the web series, but I am not sure if the subject is entirely notable at the moment (although I may be wrong, we will see). Andise1 ( talk) 02:56, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. ‐‐ 1997kB ( talk) 04:31, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom - non-notable Youtube person. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 06:55, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
- Delete - It appears as to read more like a fan page. I am working at creating an article for the "Brat" web series company - I think this should cover the many social media stars who appear in the programs. SatDis ( talk) 09:42, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
- Keep Artist charted on Billboard [1] which meets WP:MUSICBIO#2. Also won a Shorty Awards as shown in [2]. Clearly has a significant following. Article needs clean-up and expansion. Thsmi002 ( talk) 12:24, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
- comment- Also plays a lead role in a production
[3] and guest starred in an episode of
Bizaardvark per
[4].
Thsmi002 (
talk) 18:16, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
- Comment - Just to let it be known, the song that this subject recorded which charted on the Billboard chart is a cover. The song was originally recorded by
Maddie & Tae.
Andise1 (
talk) 01:02, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
- Note- Not sure what the relevance is of the response above. That is already mentioned in the article. The fact that her song was a cover does not change the fact that her version charted. LeBlanc was nominated at the Streamy Awards in 2017 in addition to the 2018 Shorty Awards. Both of these awards are Wikinotable. Thsmi002 ( talk) 11:57, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
- Comment - Just to let it be known, the song that this subject recorded which charted on the Billboard chart is a cover. The song was originally recorded by
Maddie & Tae.
Andise1 (
talk) 01:02, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Thsmi002 ( talk) 12:24, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
- Delete per nom and, in my opinion, WP:TOOSOON. This individual has not been mentioned non-trivially by a sufficient number of WP:RS, and existing on a single chart does not itself establish sufficient notability per WP:MUSICBIO. -- HunterM267 talk 17:50, 9 July 2018 (UTC)|
- Keep Artist charted on Billboard [5] which meets WP:MUSICBIO#2. Charting is an auto pass, it does not matter if it's a cover, other votes say "NN youtuber" but she's a musician with a charted single. She'll be in the history books of American charts. GuzzyG ( talk) 04:56, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
- Charting does not mean much if there is not much coverage on the subject aside from brief mentions, which is why some musicians who have charted are not inherently notable on Wikipedia, there is not enough reliable, independent sources about them out there.
Andise1 (
talk) 05:01, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
- That's not true from what i've seen, care to share some examples of people who charted with no wikipedia's? It's what got RiceGum and George Miller (entertainer) articles. GuzzyG ( talk) 06:55, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
- Charting does not mean much if there is not much coverage on the subject aside from brief mentions, which is why some musicians who have charted are not inherently notable on Wikipedia, there is not enough reliable, independent sources about them out there.
Andise1 (
talk) 05:01, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the Article Rescue Squadron's list of content for rescue consideration. Thsmi002 ( talk) 12:05, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
- Update: I tried starting a better formatted singles table with chart positions. LeBlanc has also had appeared on US and CA Billboard Digital Songs charts for her cover of "Little Do You Know." She charted on the Emerging Artists Billboard chart. Thsmi002 ( talk) 12:54, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
- Keep Time magazine says "Brat, which works on small budgets relative to Hollywood, has one certified hit in Chicken Girls, starring Annie LeBlanc and Hayden Summerall. The franchise’s debut episode has more than 10 million views, and it secured a movie deal with Lionsgate." [6] So she is staring on a hit show. And if any of her song's charted, be they original or a cover, then that counts towards her notability. She is also on the cover of Girls' Life (magazine) and they of course interviewed her as well. Dream Focus 22:18, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
- Keep agree per GuzzyG and meet WP:MUSICBIO#2. Emily Khine ( talk) 08:06, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
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