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The subject lacks significant in-depth coverage. I was not sure about the reliability of this
[1] as its mostly covered tech related news. Also i dont know if i need to write this but upon google searching "tenderd.com", i found that the creator mention this corporation somewhere in the off-wiki site. Initiating this AfD to get input from senior editors.
Libraa2019 (
talk) 18:31, 2 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep The subject clearly passes WP:GNG, and all the references are cited in the article such as coverage in
Bloomberg,
Tech Crunch,
Business Insider,
The National etc. But despite that, @Libraa decided to take this to AfD. I'm confident this nomination is driven by retaliation. @Libraa2019 appears to be taking offense to my AfD nominations,
where they consistently voted for keeping the articles, only for the discussions to result in redirects. Therefore I suggest SK this under WP:CSK. However, I want to emphasize that such retaliatory behavior is not acceptable. I'm unsure why they're taking this so personally. --—
Saqib (
talk I
contribs) 18:52, 2 June 2024 (UTC)reply
It is not personal, its just that i saw you mentioned it off-wiki, and i am unsure if its acceptable or not therefore initiated AfD. Also it is nowhere retaliation as you nominated almost 9 creations of mine sine last month
[2], i just initiated this one due to the reason i found it off-wiki (will not share that link as it leads to breach of privacy).
Libraa2019 (
talk) 18:58, 2 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Libraa2019, Why does it even matter if I mentioned it off-wiki? It's one of the most funded startups based in the UAE. So you want to delete it just because I mentioned it off-wiki? Seriously? This just proves that this AfD is entirely retaliatory. It also suggests that you're attempting to locate me through Google. Now I can guess why I've been receiving a lot of off-wiki attacks lately. —
Saqib (
talk I
contribs) 19:07, 2 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Saqib, Its not retaliation, please assume good faith as we are assuming your editings as good faith too
[3] I am not sure about the reliability of the sources you mentioned. And as you mentioned it off-wiki, its likely that you have a connection with them. As per my understanding wikipidea does'nt permit COI?
Libraa2019 (
talk) 19:15, 2 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Libraa2019, First, you're blatantly HOUNDING me off-wiki, and now you're audaciously accusing me of having a COI with Tenderd! —
Saqib (
talk I
contribs) 19:23, 2 June 2024 (UTC)reply
I have'nt. You are accusing me without any evidence just because i found some off-wiki news source which anyone can find as its a reliable Pakistani newspaper. Please avoid casting aspersions.
Libraa2019 (
talk) 19:26, 2 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete per nom. Fails
WP:NCORP. For background: (Redacted). About the coverage, it is mostly routine funding rounds per
WP:ORGTRIV, (for more read essay
WP:SERIESA). The National apparently looks a direct in-depth article about the company, but when you read it, unfortunately it is just full of quotes, no independent content, failing
WP:ORGIND. A secondary source must "contains an author's analysis, evaluation, interpretation, or synthesis of the facts, evidence, concepts, and ideas taken from primary sources." and for corporate articles we have tough standards. What the author did in The National article is just post all the quotes, just promo content. No action needed against Saqib.
2001:8F8:1267:606B:BD92:3040:C1F0:74FD (
talk) 01:08, 4 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete,it looks
WP:TOOSOON for an encyclopedia. A startup which attracted a bit of coverage about its fundraising, but nothing really beyond that. Coverage lacks depht. I have the feeling it will become notable at some point, but not now.
Cavarrone 07:14, 4 June 2024 (UTC)reply
This subject fails
WP:GNG and
WP:NSCIENTIST. His singular discovery is not a notable event, just noteworthy (in the list where it appears). There's just not enough in unrelated third-party reliable sources about him to make an encyclopedic biography.
JFHJr (
㊟) 04:54, 2 June 2024 (UTC)reply
WP:COI article moved to mainspace and skipped AfC in contravention of policy. Paid editor created an article for this businessman and his company,
Memento Exclusives, which will also be sent to AfD shortly. In the case of Barry Gough, the sourcing does not support notability under
WP:GNG and
WP:NBIO. Sources are almost exclusively
WP:PRIMARYSOURCE or
WP:TRIVIALMENTION. For example, the
Mirror piece solely interviews the subject, and the
Times article is an as-told-to
WP:INTERVIEW. Other sources, in-article and in BEFORE search, are similar.
Dclemens1971 (
talk) 17:01, 30 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Strongest delete - Rich guy paid a few outlets to interview him, then paid a Wikipedia editor to compile those interviews. Barely ambiguous enough that
G11 probably wouldn't work, but barely. ―"Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk) 23:29, 30 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete: PR published source and unreliable sources. The company doesn't meet
WP:ORGCRIT. In TOTAL, a promotional article that doesn't meet
WP:SIGCOV. Safari ScribeEdits!Talk! 11:39, 3 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Collection of bad
WP:RFOREIGN. The target is not Chinese, Greek or Japanese and seems to have no connection to the three countries. I excluded all Latin alphabet redirects to the same target from this nom, but they definitely need some scrutiny. I don't have the knowledge to tell which of the multiple romanizations used is correct or not and I want to avoid a
WP:TRAINWRECK so, if anyone else wants to deal with that mess, be my guest.
Nickps (
talk) 22:18, 30 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Some transliteration schemes include diacritics, some don't. Unfortunately, there is no one universal scheme and there have been many changes over the decades, so if we want people to get successfully redirected to our article no matter what variant they find in their texts we have to cover them all. Redirects are cheap. --
Matthiaspaul (
talk) 03:15, 31 May 2024 (UTC)reply
There are thousands of active languages in the world, so we will have to put a limit somewhere. The redirects that an English speaker might find useful are the ones they can likely experience in English-language literature, this includes
Cyrillics and various transliterations into English. English alphabet does not include diacritics, so transliteration using it is highly unlikely to be useful to them.
Викидим (
talk) 16:54, 31 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep. These are all spellings of the name actually used in various foreign-language publications of the author now or at some point in the past. Without them, people using foreign-language editions of these books will have almost no chance to find our article about the author. That's what redirects are used for per
WP:REDIR. If we delete them we gain nothing, but only make it more difficult or next to impossible for our readers to use Wikipedia successfully for their purposes, in particular in case of names originating in foreign languages. --
Matthiaspaul (
talk) 03:15, 31 May 2024 (UTC)reply
This Wikipedia is written for English speakers. For them, these redirects are
very obscure synonyms and therefore don't need to exist. If lots of English speakers read the Chinese version of the subject's work (or are familiar enough with it to search for his name in that language), a redirect from his name is Chinese would be appropriate but this has not been demonstrated.
Nickps (
talk) 12:08, 31 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Shouldn't those people using foreign-language editions of the books be using... I dunno... the foreign-language
versions of
Wikipedia? If the Japanese, Chinese, and Russian versions of the wiki don't have information on Konstantin, the answer isn't to put a
foreign-language redirect on the English wiki-- it's to translate the English wiki's page to the target language, and put it on the foreign-language version of the site.𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (
talk) 17:19, 31 May 2024 (UTC)reply
...it only just occurred to me that the redirects at question are Chinese, Japanese, and Greek, not Chinese, Japanese, and Russian. Got lightly confused because the target article we're talking about is a Russian name. That said...
We've got a Greek Wikipedia, too.𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (
talk) 17:23, 31 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete per RLANG, redirects are intended for English-language speakers, and people searching terms from foreign-language publications should use the Wikipedia editions in their respective languages.
Chaotic Enby (
talk ·
contribs) 21:30, 1 June 2024 (UTC)reply