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Plastikspork
―Œ(talk) 19:02, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
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No need for this overly specific wrapper on #ifeq
, which is only used correctly on two templates.
{{3x|p}}ery (
talk) 23:59, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
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- delete, the standard
{{#ifeq:{{{param|a}}}|{{{param|b}}}|defined|undefined}}
works well when this is needed.
Frietjes (
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~ Winged Blades
Godric 07:35, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
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Unused, and seems unnecessary. When would a template needs the ternary undef/empty/content situation (for cases without |5=
, literally the same syntax as #ifeq
{{3x|p}}ery (
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Primefac (
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No page that is using this template would run into the expensive parser function limit if it used the regular #ifexist
instead.
{{3x|p}}ery (
talk) 14:08, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
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- Delete Here's what I wrote four years ago (almost to the day) at
Template talk:Exists#Efficiency:
This template seems to work by comparing a link to the page under test with a transclusion of that page; if the page doesn't exist, the attempted transclusion instead returns a redlink, which tests as equal to the true link. If the page exists, and is large, that means that a lot of content is being transcluded unnecessarily. This is occurring at
Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)/Archive L#.7B.7Bexists.7D.7D where the whole of
Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous) is being transcluded - invisibly, but it's still there - see
What Links Here.
--
Redrose64 🌹 (
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- Delete the if-exist limit is 500, if one is really pushing that there are probably other problems there. This seems very inefficient to boot, far more than ifexist
Galobtter (
pingó mió) 06:15, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
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- Delete as horrendously inefficient, superseded by
#ifexist
.
Richard
0612 10:57, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
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- This isn't technichally superseded. It was created after the #ifexist parser function.
{{3x|p}}ery (
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The result of the discussion was delete after substituting in
San Diego Padres retired numbers and transcluding on
San Diego Padres
(non-admin closure)
Galobtter (
pingó mió) 03:12, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
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Only used on two articles, and could very easily be placed on the "
retired numbers" page and
transcluded onto
the main article.
Primefac (
talk) 15:47, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
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- Comment Are we talking about this
[1] because there are five Padres with retired numbers.
...William, is the complaint department really on
the roof? 17:41, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
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- @
WilliamJE: No, the nominated page is different from the navbox. This page is to reuse the table text in both
San Diego Padres and
San Diego Padres retired numbers, instead of syncing multiple copies.—
Bagumba (
talk) 01:26, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
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- Keep In theory transcluding from the
San Diego Padres retired numbers could work, except the occasional unknowing editor not familiar with tranclusion syntax like
<section begin=retired_numbers/>
would just delete the "unnecessary" code and never know that they broke transclusion on the including page. Having a standalone page is self-contained, and avoids these inadvertent, uninformed mistakes. It also ensures that all citations are defined in the included text, and doesnt reuse a reference from outside the section, which would result in undefined references on the transcluding page(s).—
Bagumba (
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- If the template is transcluded, then all of the references will be inside the LST'd section, which means that there won't be any issues with named templates.
- In general, though, templates get borked all the time - we can't say "let's not do this because it might get broken" because things get broken every day, and we fix them.
Primefac (
talk) 18:01, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
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- @
Primefac: There'd be less opportunities to break things if it remained a separate template. I don't think the "cost" is high to keep it. A real-life example of people unfamiliar with syntax for transcluding from an article section is at
NBA All-Star Celebrity Game, where I've had to fix
people incorrectly adding text after the end of the section,
fix people removing the sections markers altogether, and
fixed the markers again.—
Bagumba (
talk) 18:34, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
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- delete after merging with
San Diego Padres retired numbers per nom.
Frietjes (
talk) 13:53, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Plastikspork
―Œ(talk) 19:57, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Galobtter (
pingó mió) 05:54, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
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2018 May 28.
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~ Winged Blades
Godric 07:38, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
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Primefac (
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