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Occidentalist

request links: main • • links • history • watch • talk
Filed: 13:57, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Code letter:C, F
Supporting evidence:
Comfort women ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Prostitution in South Korea ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of Lucyintheskywithdada

Although Lucy was indef. blocked for his harassment, long-term disruption, and abusive sockpuppetry in July, his Plala IP sock, has constantly evading from his sanction and vandalised WP:ANI/ WP:AN/user pages including Jimbo Wales to attack me. His last appearance as a IP sock, 118.18.198.64 ( talk · contribs) was on September [1], and other contributions with the IP match with Lucy's interests; controversial education, religion, health.

On the other hand, the newbie, Occidentalist ( talk · contribs) appears to have a distinct goal to document "Anti-Korean" contents from the start. He registered his account on Nov. 9 but has a profound Wiki-knowledge. His first contribution was listing a material regarding Prostitution in South Korea on a WP:DAB page [2] and expanding the Prostitution in South Korea. The expanded contents with references are almost same as when Ex-oneatf ( talk · contribs), Logitech95 ( talk · contribs), Lucyintheskywithdada and other sockpuppeters disrupted Comfort women with plagiarism in July. It caught my attention as soon as Occidentalist created his account and seems to be a native speaker living in Japan per his log-outed edit with his Japanese Plala sock, 118.18.196.159 ( talk · contribs). These elements also match to Lucy. As Occidentalist expanded Prostitution in South Korea, he did not link his used websources from web news and inserted non-existent hoax or blog sources which are also identical M.O with Lucy. [3] At that time, that tactic used by Ex-oneaft and Lucy made people hard to check sources' reliability. Moreover, Occidentalist began following my edits yesterday and blindly reverted my edits [4] which seem that he intentionally made edit wars even though my disputed matters with another user, Tenmei ( talk · contribs) were settled down after my provided additional sources and he retracted all accusation of OR, SYNTHESIS for the articles. Also he repeatedly made disruptive copy-and-paste edits [5] [6] [7] [8] regardless of ongoing discussions for the fate of Yonsei. Besides, nobody has called me "she" or "her" except Lucyintheskywithdada but Occidentalist also referred to me as "her". [9] [10] His way of speaking is also almost identical to Lucy. Lucy has been a long-term sockpuppeter, so I believe there would be more accounts beneath his IPs. -- Caspian blue 13:57, 20 November 2008 (UTC) reply

Out of topic conversation
The "non-existent hoax or blog source" is "The realities of the entertainment culture and countermeasures. Report 10, Citizen's Self-Help Movement Series. Seoul: Seoul YMCA,1989a" which I added as I was in the middle of developing the page. Caspian blue's "issues" with Korean related topics, and tactics to obstruct and waste others time, are infamous. She started her attacked on me in an aggressive and exaggerated fashion from my very first edits [11] [12]. These accusations is just a continued example. My suggestion would be they make more effort to actually find and read references rather than engage in all this lobbying and backstabbing. I cannot provide URLs to all sources because I do not limit my research to websites. I have provided adequately checkable citations for any serious researcher, almost universally Korean. A simple inspection of the 90 or so edits I have made will show almost as many additional references added. Any article on a topic such as prostitution is likely to be distasteful. That does not make it "anti-" any nation although, obviously, it is likely to highlight abuses within various sectors of that nation. ( -- Occidentalist ( talk) 15:06, 20 November 2008 (UTC)). reply Well, you still blindly reverted my edits just adding "your own evaluation and hoax sources" such as hoax blog unreliable excerpt unrelated info non-existent sources. Given this along with your disruptive edits, I believe your unverified sources may have problems. Your way of argumenting is very similar with Lucy's and as I said, nobody has called me "her" except you and Lucy. By the way, I'm not "she", so do not change my sexuality in your imagination. Besides, you're accused of being the sockpuppeter, and why did you not defend yourself from the primary topic? Which is also very odd and too familiar because Lucy also did the same thing as trying to divert a main attention on him.-- Caspian blue 15:18, 20 November 2008 (UTC) reply Let us do a break down of your methodology so as not to be distracted by your exaggerated claims. "hoax" - actually a link to a searchable edition of 'The Annals of the Choson Dynasty', It was The Annals of the Choson Dynasty which are referenced in the article and quoted by the academic. "blog" - the actual reference given is 'The Independent, Korea. 10/9/1896' which is notable as the first English language and acceptable as a paper of record. As you requested, URLs to where these references are also recorded. "unreliable excerpt" - original source Korean Times. Actually one of two citations given for same reference. "unrelated info" - relates to official North Korean position on prostitution and trafficking. North Korean is a source of trafficked prostitutes in South Korea as referred to in the topic. Its use actually pre-dates my involvement. "non-existent sources" - ECPAT is an acronym for "End Child Prostitution, Child Pornography and Trafficking of Children for Sexual Purposes" a global network. The report referenced is "Ecpat Global Monitoring Report on the status of action against commercial sexual exploitation of children in South Korea, 2006" which is available from that organization. I have now dated it correctly and added a URL allowing you to gain a copy [13]. (-- Occidentalist ( talk) 17:17, 20 November 2008 (UTC)). reply Funny, you're still not defending yourself from the sockpuppetry accusation. 1) The first site is highly reliable, but you did not provide any actual link page to back up your addressed claim. That means the link is a spurious hoax 2) As for the second, how can reader verify the possible notability of the content from the blog site? 3) I certainly said "find the original" but you just reverted to have the unreliable excerpt for an "English lesson" page. 4) The article is about South Korea, not North Korea 5)You did not provide the actual link for the reference. Besides, your own speculation and essay are not referenced. This circulating conversation is very very familiar.-- Caspian blue 17:28, 20 November 2008 (UTC) reply Sockpuppet has a very specific definition. I am not a sockpuppet, I am not using more than one account, however and of whomsoever you try to contrive it. Your actions and intentions are transparent. (-- Occidentalist ( talk) 18:47, 20 November 2008 (UTC)). reply Yes, it is, and the ISP of your sock IP 118.18.196.159 ( talk · contribs) is unfortunately same as one that Lucy used. You still fail to defend yourself with nothing. Do not make the disruptive cut-and-paste edits as blatantly disregarding the ongoing discussions. You've been informed many times, there are discussions going on. Plus, you're a really quick learner familiar with all the complex rules and knowledge of Wikipedia just from your first day or within 10 days.-- Caspian blue 19:21, 20 November 2008 (UTC) reply

Stale Lucyintheskywithdada ( talk · contribs), Ex-oneatf ( talk · contribs), Documentingabuse ( talk · contribs), Logitech95 ( talk · contribs), Priorend ( talk · contribs)

Inconclusive Occidentalist ( talk · contribs) and the IPs. Clerks please look at behavior of all accounts and handle accordingly. — Rlevse • Talk • 03:24, 21 November 2008 (UTC) reply

Note: Occidentalist ( talk · contribs) was indef.blocked by admin East718 after his confession as being a sock at Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2008 "I created the account User:Documentingabuse solely to file an tag team report" After the block, IP socks of him vandalized WP:ANI several times such as The-banned-occidentalist ( talk · contribs), Occidentalista ( talk · contribs) and The-Occidentalist ( talk · contribs) 118.18.194.153 ( talk · contribs), 125.204.36.40 ( talk · contribs), 118.16.245.252 ( talk · contribs) all of which were blocked by Future Perfect at Sunrise.-- Caspian blue 16:27, 26 November 2008 (UTC) reply

Documentingabuse

request links: main • • links • history • watch • talk
Filed: 15:41, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Code letter:A, F
Supporting evidence:
Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Lwachowski
WP:ANI#Lucyintheskywithdada : racist and personal attacks
Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2008-07-25 Comfort women
Comfort women ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Talk:Comfort women
Lucy and Documentingabuse use the same Japanese ISP and share same interests and clams such as himself being non-Japanese, his innocence from war crime denier, imperialist, and ways of accusation others. Their accusations are all the same:I might be Korean or Korean-American, and I share a concern with Blueshirts ( talk · contribs) who did not even appear after Lucy came to Comfort women. After socks of Documentingabuse seemed to give up his demend for unblocking his account, Lucy suddenly appeared to Comfort women. His way of filing bogus reports are identical. [16] Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2008-07-25 Comfort women. Given his past massive sockpuppetries and trolling, I believe these people are the same one. If Lucy is Documentingause, he evades his indef.block sanction as well. Besides, when Documentingabuse was active, Lucy was inactive after the former was blocked, Lucy's sudden appearance with the same agenda at Comfort women is suspicious enough.-- Caspian blue ( talk) 15:41, 25 July 2008 (UTC) reply
- Confirmed that Lucyintheskywithdada is Documentingabuse. Lwachowski is stale. Additional information needed on Macgruder -- I don't see any reason to check in the evidence above. Sam Korn ^(smoddy) 20:36, 25 July 2008 (UTC) reply

Documentingabuse

request links: main • • links • history • watch • talk
Filed: 18:27, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Documentingabuse ( talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)
60.42.252.111 ( talk⁺ · tag · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser ( log))
60.42.252.205 ( talk⁺ · tag · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser ( log))
222.150.193.35 ( talk⁺ · tag · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser ( log))

Additional elements

222.150.190.12 ( talk⁺ · tag · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser ( log))
Davkal ( talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)
207.112.75.189 ( talk⁺ · tag · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser ( log))

Code letter: B, C, F
Supporting evidence:
Comfort women ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Confession of his sockpuppeting and block evasion

I think the sock would not regard any policy of Wikipedia. I guess the user in question have more than one account with this IP. Because his gaming the rule and Wiki knowledges. I believe that the sockpuppeter should be blocked for his disruption. -- Caspian blue ( talk) 18:27, 14 June 2008 (UTC) reply

Confirmed that the user is edit-warring while logged out. Thatcher 06:00, 15 June 2008 (UTC) reply

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