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✗plicit 23:49, 1 February 2024 (UTC)reply
This supposed song is not mentioned or alluded to at the target article in any capacity, making this an unhelpful redirect which doesn't offer anything to readers. Utopes(talk / cont) 22:47, 25 January 2024 (UTC)reply
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The Pig Farmer
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The result of the discussion was keep. Jay 💬 05:58, 2 February 2024 (UTC)reply
This is not a name ever equated to the movie at the target page. This movie is inspired by
Robert Pickton, who was often called the
Pig Farmer Killer (which a redirect to his page). A redirect called "the pig farmer" seems to be describing a person and not a movie. Additionally, there is the presence of a
Pig farmer redirect, which describes pig farmers at large. In the meantime, this redirect paints a confusing picture with the current state of the target, as this title can be interpreted to reference many different articles that mention these words, all while this article doesn't. Utopes(talk / cont) 22:41, 25 January 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep added to target using
WP:RS mentioning this as a title. The only other thing
anywhere in Wikipedia exactly called "The Pig Farmer" is a 5-minute short by
Nick Cross (animator) which does not seem to displace the feature film from
WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT. Per
WP:SMALLDETAILS, things titled "Pig Farmer" (the only thing I can find is
a TV episode), let alone "pig farmer" in sentence case, aren't appropriate targets for this redirect.
59.149.117.119 (
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Keep per IP now there's a mention.
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✗plicit 23:50, 1 February 2024 (UTC)reply
Implausible redirect for a laptop that does not exist and that seems unlikely to ever exist given Surface Laptop Studio appears to be the higher end 2-in-1 laptop to replace this
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Jabari Banks
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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 18:15, 1 February 2024 (UTC)reply
This page for the actor redirects to the show he's most known for, Bel-Air. However, the latter page includes basically no information about Banks himself, only really noting that simple facts that he was cast for, and stars in, the series. As such, readers searching for Banks, most likely recognising him from the show and wanting to know more, will get next-to-nothing out of this redirect. This page should simply be deleted and red-linked until a proper article on Banks is written.
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I can't verify that this is indeed the emoji.
🏴 is the emoji named "Flag for Kurdistan (IR-16)", while this one I can't find which one it is.
Gonnym (
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We should delete all emoji redirects but the most common ones. We also have
🏴,
🏴,
🏴;
🏴,
🏴,
🏴,
🏴,
🏴... Putting one of these in the search box does give the most funny search ever though, but useful it ain't.
Fram (
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There was a large RFC recently about emoji redirects. There was no overall consensus, but there was clear consensus against widespread deletion.
Thryduulf (
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And...? There is still no rule that one has to agree with consensus or is no longer allowed to express their disagreement, no? And emojis loose all purpose if you can't even see what they represent.
Fram (
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There is indeed no such rule, but equally there is no rule or other reason why people should not point out what the consensus is when views contrary to that are expressed - especially when the person replying does not know whether the person making the original comment is aware of that consensus or not.
Emoji display is system dependant, so what you see is not necessarily the same as what other people see. People copying an emoji they can't see and looking it up in a general purpose reference work such as Wikipedia is very common. See also
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 November 21#🏴.
Thryduulf (
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Very weird closure, that last one, discounting some people but not clearly incorrect statements like "Keep. Deleting this page would make it the only emoji without a redirect on Wikipedia. " when many other emojis have no Wikipedia redirect at the moment. "People copying an emoji they can't see and looking it up in a general purpose reference work such as Wikipedia is very common" for emojis that people who use enwiki are likely to encounter, which isn't true for all 150,000 unicode characters of course.
Fram (
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Do you have any source which shows which emoji readers of Wikipedia are likely to encounter and which they aren't?
Thryduulf (
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No, do you have any source which shows that all 150,000 unicode characters are likely search terms for enwiki readers? Are people likely to use "⤵" as a search term? [₈]? [⁸]? Just found one which has already been deleted twice, it gives the nice text "Creating " when clicked (not even a blank square or so), but it is listed on our page
List of Unicode characters anyway (which only lists about 1000 of the 150K characters).
Fram (
talk) 15:24, 25 January 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep This is a flag composed with the selector "IQKR", and a bit of googling indicates this is the code for
Kurdistan Region, an autonomous region of Iraq. Both that article and the
Flag of Kurdistan article state that this is the correct flag for that reason. Someone searching this emoji is looking for either what it is (e.g. because they can't see it) or because they want to know more about the subject. In either case the current target takes people to the content they are looking for.
Thryduulf (
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Withdraw nom. Thanks for finding the code. I used that for searching and indeed per
this it was supposed to be added in Apr 6, 2022. For some reason
Emojipedia does not have that listed there.
Gonnym (
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Emojipedia contains errors and isn't as comprehensive as it should be, which is another reason it's important to keep these emoji redirects.
Enix150 (
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Side question: Should I be seeing something other than a blank black flag here (in Windows 10)? —
SMcCandlish☏¢ 😼 02:19, 26 January 2024 (UTC)reply
A plain black flag is Windows' default display for a flag icon it doesn't understand (see also
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 November 21#🏴). Lack of support for subnational flags is common at this point in time, and whether they should be supported by default is apparently contentious (so a yes/no answer to your question isn't simple). Rest assured though that this is not a problem with your system/browser.
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The result of the discussion was delete.
✗plicit 13:17, 1 February 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete Google finds only three instances of this exact term, 2 are related to this redirect and the third is a single speculative comment on Reddit.
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㊙
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The result of the discussion was keep.
✗plicit 13:24, 1 February 2024 (UTC)reply
Very unclear why we would have Wiktionary redirects for non-Latin characters (or non-English words for that matter). Seems like a highly unlikely search term on enwiki.
Fram (
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Note I've added
㊙️ to this discussion, it's the same character "U+3299 CIRCLED IDEOGRAPH SECRET" with a variation selector.
Thryduulf (
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Comment. All single Unicode characters are plausible search terms on en.wp, but we don't seem to have any content about this one I can immediately find.
Thryduulf (
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"All single Unicode characters are plausible search terms on en.wp": all 150,000? Why?
Fram (
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Because people search Wikipedia for information about them, and for at least the majority there is encyclopaedic information about the character and/or what it represents.
Thryduulf (
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I highly doubt that, but I guess we'll just have to disagree on that.
Fram (
talk) 13:00, 25 January 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep or retarget. Don't delete.. Regarding
㊙️, that is an emoji and we already had a discussion that these should be kept. If the Wiktionary entry isn't a good target, redirect to
Enclosed CJK Letters and Months.
Gonnym (
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Agreed, the discussion can be found
here for reference.
Enix150 (
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Keep: Following the pattern of the other similar emoji redirects (
🉐,
🈹,
🈯,
🈶,
🈲,
🉑,
🈴,
🈳,
🈺,
🈵, & for some reason
🔞) and the redirects that are based on Unicode symbols (
🈷️/
🈷,
㊗️/
㊗,
🈂️/
🈂), I simply added the last one (
㊙️/
㊙).
Enix150 (
talk) 17:53, 25 January 2024 (UTC)reply
There was
a long discussion about 🔞 in October-November last year that failed to come to a consensus about the best target. Discussing it again in another 6 months or so when there is no concurrent contentiousness about the concept of emoji redirects might prove more fruitful.
Thryduulf (
talk) 02:04, 26 January 2024 (UTC)reply
@
Thryduulf: Yeah, it is probably wise to wait. I also saw
this discussion arguing whether the R from emoji and other redirect templates should be placed there. Though I checked every single other (non-flag) emoji on Emojipedia's list to make sure each has a redirect and the official name in its template, and this is the sole outlier as it currently stands (other than the curious case of
#️⃣/
#).
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Claudine (song)
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✗plicit 13:18, 1 February 2024 (UTC)reply
No "Claudine" is mentioned at the target, nor are there any songs with this name mentioned at the
Claudine (disambiguation) page. Utopes(talk / cont) 08:37, 25 January 2024 (UTC)reply
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I'm going down to South Park, gonna have myself a time.
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✗plicit 13:18, 1 February 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete per nom. Submission was declined from AfC as stated, this is a meaningless redirect that is highly unlikely to ever be used. -
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My Man Freestyle
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✗plicit 13:18, 1 February 2024 (UTC)reply
A freestyle done by Adonis Graham that was put at the end of one of Drake's tracks. While Adonis does get a mention at the page (one mention), "my man" does not appear in the article, nor is Adonis' freestyle ever alluded to. Utopes(talk / cont) 08:11, 25 January 2024 (UTC)reply
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Chaoxianzu in America
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✗plicit 13:19, 1 February 2024 (UTC)reply
While there are other related articles such as
Chaoxianzu in Korea and
Chaoxianzu in Japan, there is not currently any content for
Chaoxianzu in America, which currently was created as a redirect to the general
Chaoxianzu article. However, this article does not particularly discuss America, nor the Chaoxianzu whom are there, making this redirect unhelpful to readers. Utopes(talk / cont) 07:50, 25 January 2024 (UTC)reply
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Nicholas knife
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The result of the discussion was delete.
✗plicit 13:19, 1 February 2024 (UTC)reply
Not an alternative name used as a synonym to the album title. Utopes(talk / cont) 07:33, 25 January 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete while Nick is a diminutive form of Nicolas there is no evidence that the album has ever been known under this name.--
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The result of the discussion was delete.
✗plicit 13:19, 1 February 2024 (UTC)reply
Does not show up at the target list of original programming, or anywhere on Wikipedia for that matter. Utopes(talk / cont) 07:10, 25 January 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete. Confusing without a substantive mention.
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Finding (franchise)
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The result of the discussion was keep. Jay 💬 17:53, 1 February 2024 (UTC)reply
This franchise is not referred to in the article (nor anywhere) as the "Finding franchise", even if it's a word that both movies share. It's a
partial title match for the two movies that have come out, and this alternative name is not used in the article. Utopes(talk / cont) 06:50, 25 January 2024 (UTC)reply
Does anyone actually refer to anything else on that page as "the Finding franchise"? Even if the answer is "yes", that's evidence in favor of disambiguation, not deletion. --
C. A. Russell (
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Incorrect, disambiguation is for title matches, not title ambiguities, so deletion would have been the option that should be followed to allow search results ... if it weren't for others' new comments showing this may be a valid name for the target, which has resulted in me withdrawing my opinion.
Steel1943 (
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Keep, unless it can be shown that there are other franchises that are referred to as «the Finding franchise» (or «"Finding" franchise»), in which case disambiguate. The claim that is it is «not referred to in the article (nor anywhere) as the "Finding franchise"» is bizarre and flatly contradicted by a cursory search. --
C. A. Russell (
talk) 13:23, 26 January 2024 (UTC)reply
@
C. A. Russell:. This is the wrong way round. The redirect should exist only if there is evidence that this franchise is known solely as «the Finding franchise» (using your quotes). So if they're from reliable sources, put one or more of your quotes below as references in the article, and we're done.
Shhhnotsoloud (
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Delete as generic given I've never heard it called just "Finding" and there are probably lots of media about finding things so is ambiguous. Crouch, Swale (
talk) 17:40, 26 January 2024 (UTC)reply
Voting to delete on the grounds that you, personally, have "never heard it" called that before is a very odd response. And to reiterate, the basis factual basis of the nomination—that this franchise is not referred to in that way anywhere—is flat out untrue, as revealed with two seconds of Googling. --
C. A. Russell (
talk) 13:11, 27 January 2024 (UTC)reply
A Google search for Finding franchise doesn't return any results for Nemo. Crouch, Swale (
talk) 17:09, 27 January 2024 (UTC)reply
You are being dishonest:
According to legend, the original film in the Finding franchise was green-lit with just one word, fish. "You had me at Fish" was apparently[...]
Hank the octopus, voiced by Ed O'Neill, is less comical than he is a charming, meaningful addition to the “Finding” franchise and[...]
[...] until it reaches the point that it returns to the jovial, wacky hi-jinks that we have come to expect from the 'Finding' franchise[...]
[...] we're talking about the "Finding" franchise, where the first film was an ode to fatherhood/single fatherhood [...]
[...] an animated film for the young audience, Pixar's Finding franchise has a certain element[...]
"You are being dishonest". Nice
WP:AGF failure. Could have been possible that Crouch, Swale did not search in the same manner you did, maybe different search engine or search term. Not sure, but seriously, lay off the
WP:PAs.
Steel1943 (
talk) 19:33, 31 January 2024 (UTC)reply
Oh, just noticed this editor is now indefinitely blocked.
Steel1943 (
talk) 19:50, 31 January 2024 (UTC)reply
Steel1943, I highly recommend the
markblocked gadget, it makes it much easier to notice when an editor is blocked. --
Tavix(
talk) 00:16, 1 February 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep. In addition to a multitude of results from places like reddit, TV Tropes, IMBD, and C. A. Russel's finds 1 minute on Google got me
[1],
[2],
[3],
[4] and
[5].
Thryduulf (
talk) 14:22, 28 January 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep I have added a mention to the article given that sources have been found. I am intrigued by the claim that there are other franchises with the name, but I was unable to corroborate it. --
Tavix(
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Keep since the franchise is now mentioned at the target.
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Infinity Saga epilogue
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✗plicit 13:20, 1 February 2024 (UTC)reply
Total
WP:ORWP:SYNTH not mentioned at the target article, nor wouldn't. It is not important for this film to be the epilogue of the "Infinity Saga", there are plenty of movies that have been made after the Saga ended that can be equally called an epilogue. This is not an alternative name for the movie nor a 1:1 search term. Utopes(talk / cont) 06:49, 25 January 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete not a helpful or common search term.
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✗plicit 13:20, 1 February 2024 (UTC)reply
Not a controversy listed at the target. In fact, the term "plebbit" is not mentioned anywhere on Wikipedia. Unhelpful redirect. Delete. Utopes(talk / cont) 06:27, 25 January 2024 (UTC)reply
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The result of the discussion was keep. Jay 💬 17:42, 1 February 2024 (UTC)reply
Ligma variant not mentioned at the target article, or anywhere on Wikipedia for that matter. Delete. Utopes(talk / cont) 05:51, 25 January 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep. I just added it as a ligma variant. It's part of the "deez nuts" meme family since that's the punchline. It's mentioned in one of the existing ligma sources. I could see someone being told about the war in Grabahan or the mass shooting in Grabahan and typing that in to Wikipedia. Or we could just have people learn the hard way. Cheers! BBQboffingrill me 19:44, 25 January 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep per BBQboffin who added a sourced mention.
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The result of the discussion was delete.
✗plicit 13:20, 1 February 2024 (UTC)reply
Unsourced acronym created from a number of disruptive page moves by a now banned individual. No reference to what "RSCIT" is on the page makes these redirects unhelpful and confusing. Utopes(talk / cont) 05:25, 25 January 2024 (UTC)reply
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List of Gears of War Characters & Enemies
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✗plicit 13:21, 1 February 2024 (UTC)reply
This used to point to a pretty hefty list of Gears of War characters, where the largest depository of page history now lies at the
List of Gears of War characters redirect. There were quite a few redirects that used to point here, but after a 2020 BLAR, and a later presumed removal of content at the main
Gears of War page, many of the redirects pointing here are scattered and misplaced. This is one example of such redirects. The
Gears of War page does not have a list formatted at the page. While it might have characters, it most certainly does not contain a list of enemies. This is probably one of the less plausible "list of Gears of War characters" floating out there, with which there are many. An alternative to deletion would be restoring the
List of Gears of War characters article and retargeting the rest of these stragglers there, but in the absence of that, they don't really have a great home at
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✗plicit 13:22, 1 February 2024 (UTC)reply
Seemingly no reason for this page to exist. Bundling in the draft-space version as well, which began as a redirect to open world before moving it to an article-space location. Open world games that don't have articles shouldn't be redirects to "open world". Utopes(talk / cont) 03:50, 25 January 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete I can’t imagine someone typing this a search term in order to learn about open world gaming in general.--
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Dragetreneren
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✗plicit 13:22, 1 February 2024 (UTC)reply
WP:FORRED from Norwegian, who doesn't even have an article on the series (the page on the Norwegian wiki at this title is about the 2010 movie). Utopes(talk / cont) 03:44, 25 January 2024 (UTC)reply
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Milo (Demon Road)
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The result of the discussion was delete.
✗plicit 13:22, 1 February 2024 (UTC)reply
Used to be talked about on an article that no longer exists, as it was retargeted to the general page about the author. The character in question is left unaccounted for at the target page. Utopes(talk / cont) 03:26, 25 January 2024 (UTC)reply
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The result of the discussion was delete.
✗plicit 13:23, 1 February 2024 (UTC)reply
Created by a now-blocked user per WP:NOTHERE, the question becomes what to do with this redirect (a term not discussed or ever equated at the target page). Utopes(talk / cont) 03:22, 25 January 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete. The only source I can find that equates these terms is a wiki whose article has a big banner proclaiming the subject to be a fictional ideology and which uses "Feminazi" is a completely different way to our article. In reliable sources, "national feminism" mostly seems to relate to feminist movements/organisations that are countrywide in a given country and/or which combine feminist and nationalist ideologies (for whatever "nationalist" means in the context of the relevant part of the world), most commonly in Cuba but far from exclusively so. As far as I've been able to find, we don't have an article about this/these concept(s).
Thryduulf (
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Delete as simply an unlikely search term.
Alextejthompson (Ping me or leave a message on my
talk page) 13:17, 25 January 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete Feminazi is a combination of Feminism and Nazi. It's not a combination of Feminism and National Socialism. This doesn't seem to be an actual term and doesn't seem to be a likely search.
GMGtalk 15:27, 25 January 2024 (UTC)reply
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The result of the discussion was restore article without prejudice to AfD. Article was already restored by
Spworld2 shortly after it was nominated here.
(non-admin closure)CycloneYoristalk! 07:26, 1 February 2024 (UTC)reply
This redirect was BLAR'd and has history (which I've now marked), but I'm unsure whether there's a better target out there because it receives some other mentions, but none at its current target. If nothing is suitable, there's also the ability to restore and send to AfD, but I was hesitant about doing so before looking at other R targets. Utopes(talk / cont) 02:56, 25 January 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep(restore). I agree with restoring it. It's not meant to be merged into another, the sources are more specific to it- --
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